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Re: Where is God???
Reply #45 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:49am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:35am:
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:24am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Yadda it must be nice to be able to just pick and choose as you like.......





Yes, it is.

That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?


so when the church used to support going out and hunting down non believers and burnig them at the stake, you are saying the church wasn't christian? what was it then? a satanic cult? The institution hasn't changed over the ages, only the amount of bullsh1t people are willing to believe has ... if they thought for a moment they could get away with another middle ages crusade to further their cause they would do it in a heartbeat.





AGAIN....


That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Where is God???
Reply #46 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:55am
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:49am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:35am:
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:24am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Yadda it must be nice to be able to just pick and choose as you like.......





Yes, it is.

That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?


so when the church used to support going out and hunting down non believers and burnig them at the stake, you are saying the church wasn't christian? what was it then? a satanic cult? The institution hasn't changed over the ages, only the amount of bullsh1t people are willing to believe has ... if they thought for a moment they could get away with another middle ages crusade to further their cause they would do it in a heartbeat.





AGAIN....


That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?



are you trying to claim that by murdering innocents the church is not christian?
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Reply #47 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:00pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:55am:
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:49am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:35am:
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:24am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Yadda it must be nice to be able to just pick and choose as you like.......





Yes, it is.

That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?


so when the church used to support going out and hunting down non believers and burnig them at the stake, you are saying the church wasn't christian? what was it then? a satanic cult? The institution hasn't changed over the ages, only the amount of bullsh1t people are willing to believe has ... if they thought for a moment they could get away with another middle ages crusade to further their cause they would do it in a heartbeat.





AGAIN....


That is what this 'game' [this life] is about.

Making choices.


And all of us do it, every day.

We make choices.

And our choices, do define us [.....our choices define 'who' we really are].

No ?



are you trying to claim
that by murdering innocents the church is not christian?





Duh ???


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Reply #48 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:08pm
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Duh ???



Defn. -
A Christian ( pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christ, a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term Messiah.[


How do you know what the life and teachings of Jesus are if not for what the church has told you it was? Did you have a vision?

If you rely on the churches preaching, how do you know which version is correct? the older more bloodthirsty version or the more modern version?
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Reply #49 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:08pm
 
sorry, double post
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Reply #50 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
FAITH!!

It's something that we all accept on a daily basis without thinking about it.

The train, the bus, the plane, the ferry that we catch...we have faith that it will reach our destination.

Faith...to believe things unseen! Who has ever seen electricity? Or the air that we breath? But it's there.

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Reply #51 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Yadda wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:00pm:
Duh ???



Defn. -
A Christian ( pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christ, a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term Messiah.[


How do you know what the life and teachings of Jesus are if not for what the church has told you it was? Did you have a vision?

If you rely on the churches preaching, how do you know which version is correct? the older more bloodthirsty version or the more modern version?








What did Jesus say about how to worship God ?

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Do 'Christians' need great church buildings ?     [....or, a 'great' church hierarchy, to worship God ?]

Matthew 6:5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.





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Why should i follow men, when instead, i can let God teach me ?

And why should i let a man ['of God'], or anyone else, interpret the bible for me ?

I can read and write, and i know which way is up.

And, i read the bible.

The bible moves me.

The bible changes my mind.

And that spirit that is inside me helps me to understand the words, that i read.

[Are the words in the bible, 'the words of God' ?
I believe it.
I believe that the words in the bible, are words, which were inspired by that being, that we know as God.]



Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
11  For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.
12  What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13  His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
14  The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.


Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8  The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9  The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.



"....rejoicing the heart"


Almost all men in the world today choose to follow lawlessness [imo], as a means to prevail ['in the world'].

And, as a path that they are hoping will lead to the 'rejoicing of their heart'.

I choose to [imperfectly] seek God, my creator.





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Yadda said, somewhere.....

Quote:

Reading scripture is a form of spiritual invocation [i believe].
And imo, the words and thoughts expressed within scripture, express [to me] the mind of our God.
And, reading those words and thoughts, exposes me to that spirit, which i [choose, and] want to be influenced by.
i.e.
The spirit of God.
It is that simple.




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Re: Where is God???
Reply #52 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
the same bible that the church puts out? you mean that one? Why doesn't the vatican release old all the scriptures in it's possession but rather hides them away.
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Reply #53 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:28pm
 
Jaqs wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
For those of you who replied offering bible verses. Thanks - however my question remains.  Actually I currently attend a bible study run by the presbyterians in the town I live in.  They are all born again Christians. I'm still deciding. 

And I find answers via the bible hard to digest IF I don't first have the faith to believe it.  If that makes sense?  I'm no scholar and struggle with expression (which might be why I sound like I'm trolling) but I ask questions at a level that I'm searching at.

How (aside from bible quotes) do people know that God is in their life?  What do they sense or feel etc???  I'm not asking for a vision of God - just a knowledge beyond a book.

Prior to reading the bible did you sense God in your life?  Or was it a change based on faith only with no actual sense of God at a personal level?  I'm not sure how to word this.  Hopefully some of you will get what I am asking.




hi Jaqs,
yes, that makes sense.
As a boy I remember having an exam coming up at school. I Was probably about 7 years oldish and not a xtian.
I prayed for god to help me in exams. Since then I have been good at exams, not as good in real life.

The idea of 'studying' the bible is not my .......... experience of it.
'studying' it is pretty boring, and I get fed what the church wants me to learn.
if I just read it as a book, cover to cover, it's pretty different.

My path to xtianity is not common. I know God is in my life because I no longer fear death.
You should not have to 'make a decision' be become a xtain, IMHO.
I was sort of given few choices about it all.

All the best, don't sweat the small stuff.
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Reply #54 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 6:02pm
 
I know God is in my life because I no longer fear death.

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this is a true sign

and self acknowledgement of your divinity

and a release of that which no longer serves thee

which is fear.

you do not have to be religious for this to occur

however

religion is a program one may traverse until

............until the one in question

observes that which is innate and

within...yes the creator exists behind your

physical heart...the sacred heart,

with so very much love

namaste

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Reply #55 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 11:06pm
 
Jaqs wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 11:56am:
For many years I have prayed and asked God to come into my life and I am still waiting.  Where is God?  Am I not one of His chosen?

Your thoughts?



Perhaps it is time to shut up and be still and not pray - all that 'listen to me' might be blocking out the still, small voice.

If you want to be one of the chosen, you will be disappointed. God is not an X factor judge and does not dance with the stars.


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Reply #56 - Apr 18th, 2013 at 5:15am
 


Heaven Letters April-17-2013

God said:
What is loneliness but lack of knowledge? What is loneliness but lack of Self-Acquaintance? What is loneliness but wayward thinking, a tangent, a lack of Self-Awareness? In the case of loneliness, you have sent your own heart adrift. Like Baby Moses, you own dear heart has been cast adrift on the shore. The shore is not far from the sea, and yet to be cast from the shore of God is unfathomable. I wonder if loneliness has become fashionable in the world, something that has caught on.

What rift can have come between the Oneness of Us? What imaginary line has been drawn that you would exclude yourself from Me, as though distance is sensible and more likely than Oneness?

It is hard to imagine that you, a child of Mine, could turn your head from Me. With the Ocean right in sight of you, how could you turn your head from Me and your heart turned off?

You may think you spend a lifetime seeking Me and not finding Me. I cannot and do not look away. I look right here at you. You may think I don't understand you or that I don't care about you when you don't see. I see. I see you. I keep you right in front of Me. You are never out of sight or mind. I call you to Me at every moment, day and night, season after season. You are on My mind, and you are in My heart. In a million ways, I say, "I am here." And you don't seem to hear Me. You want Me to come up to you.

I have come right up to you. I extend Myself. I do everything to get your attention, and, yet, you hear Me not. You see Me not. I dance before you. You dance away and ask where I have gone. How did you acquire this sense of absence? Why would you hold this assumed distance up before Us like a towel? I have never left your side. My hand has been forever holding yours. We have an engagement, you and I. We are forever One and never not One. Beloveds, your mind wandered. You set your sights on far away places that do not exist. I exist. Heaven exists. The Kingdom of God lies within you. I am forever ensconced in your heart. How could your heart possibly be the last to know?

Even when the Prodigal Son stayed away from Me, His Father, he knew where I was. He knew where he could return to, and he returned. Yet you may say I do not exist, and there is nowhere for you to go. You call out:

"Where are You, God? Where have You gone without me? Why have You left me? Why would You leave me forlorn?"

Why would you bereave yourself and drop your awareness of Me? Bereaving a loss of My Presence is not exactly the best use of your life. It is not a novel you want to write. You have spent long enough writing it. You have spent too long writing this dark fantasy. Instead of deepening your support of awayness from God, come back into the Light of God. Come back to Me. Come right up to Me and say:

"God, here I am. I am here. I came back. I had a dream that you were away. Now I know this was a dream I dreamt. I dreamed I covered my eyes, and now I have opened them again to You. I have come back to You, God. I am here for You. What would You ask me to do for You?"
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Reply #58 - Apr 19th, 2013 at 12:14am
 
God said:
Even in the indelicacies of life that are handed to you, there is perfection. There is perfection of a moment. The scene, as it might be played in a stage play, is presented amazingly. The bad guys, the good guys, the in-between, all are played to a T. What delivery! What performance! What a script! The sun is in the right place, and the shades and shadows are perfect too. Lights! Camera! Action! This scene could not have been performed better. It is a one-time-only event.

It may be a tragic scene or a comedy of errors or an erroneous arrest or a lovely romance, or a lovely romance gone bad that you find yourself in. This may have been a drama you would prefer not to see before you. You prefer not to be in this drama. You are perhaps presented in a light you don't like. You may be the star, and, yet, you may well prefer not to be on this stage at all. It is all wrong for you, and yet you play your part perfectly, and you finish the whole scene. You are the consummate actor. You are actor award material. Your performance is stellar. No one can play this part better than you or even as well as you. No one can repeat the perfection of this ad-libbed scene nearly as well as you. No one can tell that you are acting. You are a natural for it.

Even if you were to replay this scene, you couldn't have done it so immaculately as you did. There are no run-through's for you. No rehearsals. No reading the script ahead of time. You are just thrown on the set, and you take your cues from what is going on around you and the lines that the other actors on stage with you speak.

Perhaps you are on trial for your life. Suddenly, you are in criminal court, your case being tried. You don't know what you're doing there or how you happen to be here. You are thrown in. Whether you committed the act you are accused of or not, it doesn't matter. You may be innocent, and you play your part to the hilt, and are found guilty. You may be guilty, play your part to the hilt, and are found innocent.

It can be you are in court on a traffic violation. If you are the respondent, this is a big case for you. If you are the judge, it is a minor case, one of many lined up. In either case, you are both eager for it to be finished. There may be no fine involved or a big fine imposed. In any case, to you, there is also the principle of the thing.

Life as it appears before you, premeditated or out of the blue, is in bright color right before you. There is no cessation of scenes.

Whether it makes good sense to you or no sense at all, life is a drama perfectly cast and perfectly played out. Nothing can equal life's drama. Life is the Greatest Show on Earth, and you star in it without cease. Even when you are asleep, you are in an interesting scene. Bit player or star, you excel. You may not like the part, yet you excelled in it. You are a master in the part you play. You are great.

It seems as if many scenes are thrust upon you. Somehow you are cast in the part, even when it seems like you have no choice, no choice at all, no choice whatsoever, and yet it is you who shows up for this drama in your life. You may think you are no more than an innocent bystander. Nevertheless, you show up. You are standing in the audition line. It certainly feels like you have been chosen, and yet you choose your place in line. You may not remember applying for this part of yours, and, yet, you are quite a performer. Somehow, here you are on stage, seemingly unable to get a day off. Even so, you have a say in what role you will play tomorrow.

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Reply #59 - Apr 19th, 2013 at 12:51am
 
Where is God?

a tautology if there ever was one
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