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People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill
Apr 14^th, 2013 at 12:47am

People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill me.

....they are allowed to declare it, on the streets of London and Sydney.

They say that it is lawful for them, to kill me.
Those people are moslems.

They say that it is NOT lawful for me, to NOT believe what they believe. [Koran 3.85, Koran 9.29]
They say that it is lawful for them to kill me, because i do not believe what they believe. [Koran 33.60,61]
And they even teach their children that it is lawful to kill me, because i do not believe what they believe.

To a devout moslem, 'freedom of religion', means the right [the freedom!] to kill people, because they do not believe what they [moslems] believe.

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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London, moslem street protests.
Moslems demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion', to kill people who 'insult' their religion,
.....BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT MOSLEMS BELIEVE.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
The image above gives us undeniable >> PROOF << that even here in Australia, moslems living in Australia, are teaching their children the basics about ISLAM. Teaching their children intolerance, and the hatred of those, who dare to reject what moslems believe.

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In London, and all over the world, moslem parents, are instilling a criminally hateful mindset, into their children.
Moslems teach their children, to hate those who reject their [ISLAMIC] will.
And moslems, and moslem parents, are doing this on purpose!
And we [their hosts] seemingly have no care, what that moslem 'will' may eventually be revealed to be.

"Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence."

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"Are we learning yet ?"

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ISLAM - THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzxiHfWvBGw

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill
Reply #1 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 12:58am

Do i have a right to 'offend' people, by not believing what they believe ?

Do i have a right to 'offend' people, by openly revealing that i do not believe what they [moslems] believe ?

Try it.

Try it, in Saudi Arabia.

Try it, in Iran.

Try it, in Egypt.

Try it, in Tunisia.

Try it, in Libya.

Try it, in Somalia.

And the law which moslems bring with them [wherever they go], is the law that has effect in those places.

It is called Sharia law.

FROM ISLAMIC LAW

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #2 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:59am Your bigotry offends me but i dont want to kill you SOB
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KJT1981 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1822	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #3 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 8:53am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:59am: Your bigotry offends me but i dont want to kill you SOB You stupidity offends me but I.........................
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Reply #4 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:59am:

Your bigotry offends me but i dont want to kill you

SOB

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

According to people like SPOT, no one must be permitted to speak of the bigotry of ISLAM itself.

Why is that ?

Why must nobody be permitted to speak, if the words describing ISLAM are truthful and unflattering ???

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SPOT asserts that i am a bigot.

But who are the real bigots in this dialogue?

Open a dictionary;

bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.

Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

Those who would naively call for tolerance of ISLAM [and tolerance of moslem values], in Australia, and would allow Sharia law to get its foot in the door [within Australia], need only examine how moslems themselves [within Australia!], in unguarded moments, candidly describe ISLAM/Sharia and its intent towards us, 'disbelievers'....

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August 4, 2005
Australian Islamic leader defends jihad
"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.
"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is Islam."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1430551.htm

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"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.

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Isn't what that moslem cleric expounded, in itself exposing the base bigotry of ISLAM ?

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And, shouldn't we explore what the words of this moslem cleric mean ???

The truth is, that when non-moslems openly explore what ISLAM actually promotes among its own adherents, such open 'exploration' always 'OFFENDS' moslems.

And it should 'offend' moslems!

Because speaking the truth, about ISLAM [and what is promotes in the world], always exposes the bigotry and intolerance inherent within ISLAM.

And yet, people like SPOT would argue, in a public forum such as this one, that exposing such bigotry, is bigotry itself.

???

What do you think about that argument ?

Is exposing the bigotry [which is inherent, but hidden, within ISLAM], bigotry itself ?

THE WORDS OF THE KORAN...

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

THESE ARE THE WORDS OF MOSLEMS TODAY,
WHO ARE LIVING IN EGYPT TODAY.
THESE ARE THE WORDS WHICH MOSLEMS ARE USING, TO PROMOTE ISLAM TODAY...

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"Allah is our objective;
the Quran is our law,
the Prophet is our leader;
Jihad is our way;
and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."

The moslem brotherhood's call to duty for every moslem
Which is an ACCURATE representation of what ISLAM requires and expects from every moslem worthy of the name.

Moslems who tell us that ISLAM is a virtuous religion or philosophy are lying to us - because they [moslems] know, that we do not know any better!

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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #5 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:02am KJT1981 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 8:53am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:59am: Your bigotry offends me but i dont want to kill you SOB You stupidity offends me but I......................... Go away troll SOB
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #6 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:57am A few people will die, but in the end, the people will take to their guns and shoot the f k ers on the spot because they know there is no stopping a biggotted religion that is stuck in year dot.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #7 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 12:08pm I have a theory that Yadda is actually a muslim who posts here in order to ridicule and discredit the islamophobes. Either way he does a very good job of doing that.
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damien Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 Gender:	Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill Reply #8 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 2:01pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:59am: Your bigotry offends me but i dont want to kill you SOB Truth now is bigotry?? Come on!! This comment above is from a bigot!!i Don't believe me - watch what comes back!!
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Reply #9 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

I have a theory that Yadda is actually a muslim who posts here in order to ridicule and discredit the islamophobes.

Either way he does a very good job of doing that.

And i have a theory too, .....that gandalf is a 'pseudo' moslem.

Oh, i know that gandalf is a person who refers to himself as a moslem.

But although gandalf will in this forum criticise the moslem 'extremists', he is a person who would never have the courage to confront,
a real moslem,
about real ISLAM,
and about ISLAM's real violent intent in the world.

gandalf is a fake moslem.isomething i wrote, some time ago.....

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2008-Mar-02 Sun 2:25 pm

Almost all devout muslims [99% ? ] are 'faking it', their devotion to Allah, and i can prove it, ....from verses in the Koran itself.

Have you heard the expression...... 'Nothing succeeds like success.' ?
That is ISLAM today, in spades.....

All those young men who have joined with Jihadists are riding the wave of ISLAM's success, in recent years.
All those muslims who have joined the Jihad, have done so soley because they want to share in the promise of *winning*, they have not joined the Jihadists because they are, or desire to be devout muslims.

Most muslims, frankly dont know if Allah exists, but they see their brothers everywhere declaring, that they love, and are slaves of Allah.
They say to themselves, "Hey these guys are winning, i can do that too. I'll join them, and i'll just pretend i'm devout. How hard can it be? How will anyone know i don't believe?"
Its a case of that old Garry Glitter song, "I'm The Leader Of The Gang!", playing out in the heads of young muslims.

'Get with the power friend, join the gang.'

How can i prove that devout muslims [99% ? ] are 'faking it', their devotion to Allah?

Because it is clear that many muslims totally disregard Allah's words, and in so doing, these muslims spit in Allah's face.
These muslims are all bound for, will burn, in Allah's hell.
These are the words of, the promise of Allah himself, from the Koran.
'Burn, in Allah's hell (For ever).'

Muslims must never knowingly kill another [devout] muslim.

"......If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.092 & 93 !

Yet this directive in the Koran, from the lips of Allah himself, is ignored, almost on a daily basis, by many 'devout' muslims....

Even the clerics will burn.
........because they too, do not speak against these killings of innocent muslims.

I argue;
If muslim clerics know 'the law of Allah', where are all of the fatwas that are being issued against these muslim murderers, of fellow muslims???
There are none.
No fatwas.
And in this, the muslim clerics too, are wilfully failing to protect innocent muslims.

The muslim clerics are ignoring Allah's direct words to protect innocent muslims, these muslim clerics too, spit in Allah's face.

A burning hell for them.

Some examples of the unrestrained murder of innocent muslims, being committed by muslims.....

Clearly many who call themselves 'muslims', don't actually believe in Allah's word [the Koran], or his authority as a god.

ISLAM......a false religion, for a false people.

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Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill
Reply #10 - Apr 15^th, 2013 at 6:04am

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

I dont need "translating" yadda. All muslims are not the same as you say they are.

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Re: People who i 'offend', say that they want to kill
Reply #11 - Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:15am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 6:04am:

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

I dont need "translating" yadda. All muslims are not the same as you say they are.

SOB

If they are not, then they (according to their own teaching) are not true muslims.

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Reply #12 - Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:22am

damien wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 6:04am:

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

I dont need "translating" yadda. All muslims are not the same as you say they are.

SOB

If they are not, then they (according to their own teaching) are not true muslims.

So? How many xtians follow the xtian bible and all its tenets and laws? The nature of religion is to be two-faced. Every sect thinks the rest arent "true believers"

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Reply #13 - Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:28am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

damien wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 6:04am:

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

I dont need "translating" yadda. All muslims are not the same as you say they are.

SOB

If they are not, then they (according to their own teaching) are not true muslims.

So? How many xtians follow the xtian bible and all its tenets and laws? The nature of religion is to be two-faced. Every sect thinks the rest arent "true believers"

SOB

Excuse me, what is a xtian? Do you have a problem writing the full word? But I reckon that you, as with many others, have no problem using the name as a swear word in blasphemy.

xeist??

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Reply #14 - Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:58am

damien wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:28am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:22am:

damien wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 6:04am:

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Yadda translates;

SPOT believes that to speak any unflattering truth about ISLAM and/or any unflattering truth about the vicious and violent conduct of moslems [and their violent INTENT towards 'disbelievers'] = = "anti-islamic bigotry"

I dont need "translating" yadda. All muslims are not the same as you say they are.

SOB

If they are not, then they (according to their own teaching) are not true muslims.

So? How many xtians follow the xtian bible and all its tenets and laws? The nature of religion is to be two-faced. Every sect thinks the rest arent "true believers"

SOB

Excuse me, what is a xtian? Do you have a problem writing the full word? But I reckon that you, as with many others, have no problem using the name as a swear word in blasphemy.

xeist??

What are you talking about? Didnt like my point huh.

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