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The academics who hate free speech
Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:11pm
 
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The academics who hate free speech

by John Speer

April 16, 2013

The Labor Government’s recent abandonment of Senator Stephen Conroy’s proposed media-regulation laws has brought an end to the greatest assault on free speech in Australia yet attempted. However, the battle is nowhere near over and it rages on in the most trivial of places.

For an an example of just how determined the left is to silence those with whom it disagrees, consider the  recent experience of the the Melbourne University Liberal Club. The MULC is a conservative student organisation that represents a clear minority in the political ecosystem that prevails on campus. Whilst not being directly affiliated with the Liberal Party, the club has adhered to and promoted the values of liberalism since 1925.

In the University of Melbourne’s Orientation Week in February of 2013, the MULC did as it has always done, and set about promoting itself to attract new members. Oriaentation Week has traditionally been our biggest recruitment drive of the year. In addition to manning our allocated booth at the Clubs & Societies Expo, we also set up a number of stalls around the Parkville campus. These stalls are generally decorated with various Liberal Party corflutes, publications, stickers, and various other promotional giveaways.

This year one of the corflutes, kindly donated to us, originated from the 2001 federal election campaign. This particular corflute pictured then-Prime Minister John Howard and his quote “we will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come.” On one particular day of O-Week, The Club displayed this corflute proudly at our stall, a reminder of one of the Howard government’s most successful and successful policies.

Within minutes of displaying this corflute, members of the MULC were approached by university academics who believed it to be was ‘racist’ and ‘disgusting’. In addition to this, they insisted we had no right whatsoever to display it at our stall. Senior members of The Club explained that whilst they were free to hold those opinions, we were perfectly within our rights to voice our own beliefs and display a piece of official election material.

With the debate ending rather quickly, our stall was soon approached by the University of Melbourne’s security staff, who stated they had received “complaints” about the corflute. They then ordered the MULC booth off campus.

After it was explained that all present were both MULC members and students of the university,  thus having a right to be present on university grounds, the security staff then attempted to remove the corflute from the grounds of the university.

Upon members reminding them that the corflute was a member of The Club’s own private property, they placed it back on the stall.

In a desire not to inflame the situation, MULC members transported the stall off campus and onto public property in order to continue our membership drive.

Whilst this incident may seem trivial, it typifies the difficulties and harassment experienced by conservative and libertarian student organisations. The mentality of the left in the practice of freedom of speech, equating to “I don’t want to see it therefore it can’t be displayed”, is arrogant and abusive. We might also call it absurd, if not for the chilling glimpse of the totalitarian mindset determined to crimp and control all conversation and thought on campus.

And remember, it was not left students who complained about our display but academics, who should be dedicated to the free and unfettered discussion and dissection of ideas.

Not only do such attempts to gag fly in the face of the right to free speech and freedom of expression,  they demonstrate the unwillingness of the left on campus, and generally everywhere, to adhere to the basic principles of democracy. I am drawn to a quote from Voltaire’s biographer, Evelyn Beatrice Hall, and often attributed in error to the philosopher himself. It is this: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Whilst the fight for freedom of expression and speech may be at a temporary ceasefire in Canberra, it continues to escalate in the tertiary institutions of this nation.


http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/qed/2013/04/the-academics-who-hate-free-speech
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm
 
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.
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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm:
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.


if you've ever worked in a university you would know that it is THE left-wing organization in the country. A friend of mine who worked in a uni was reprimanded for having a picture of Howard in his cubicle. Pictures of Keating however were acceptable.

But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students when they leave the rarefied air of universities. The academics however never leave, never work in the real world and thus stay entrenched in their left-wing world where 'free speech' is a concept that applies the them but not everyone else.

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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:47pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
if you've ever worked in a university ...



That's unfair.

Mistie works in a University; we all know that.

...

Moreover, he does a fine job.

He has an honorary doctorate you know.
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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 12:59am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm:
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.


Universities are supposed to be places of learning. Having said that, something like "we will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come" is open to interpretation and its meaning is debatable.

I think the academics' response was one of fear, that by allowing the club to show their items to the people on the campus, they were effectively agreeing with what had been written on them. That just isn't my interpretation. Universities being places of learning and evolution of ideas, allowing such items to exist on campus didn't mean you were condoning, supporting or advocating them. You could just walk past and ignore them, showing no interest.
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 1:41am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
if you've ever worked in a university you would know that it is THE left-wing organization in the country.


You're assuming there aren't any "fatcats" in universities. I am pretty sure academics who teach commerce or economics courses would be pretty right-wing, as anyone interested in running businesses and wants to make money would be. There's also the academics teaching law and you know how lawyers like to get rich by charging you lots of legal fees. It's amazing how a piece of paper with writing on it can earn you $10k-$100k. Lawyers love manipulating the world to make themselves richer and I doubt they're going to leave the money to the homeless. There you have it. Here are your right-wingers in universities.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
A friend of mine who worked in a uni was reprimanded for having a picture of Howard in his cubicle. Pictures of Keating however were acceptable.


You're basing your claim on the experience of a friend? Whoever said that to your friend was expressing their opinion and yet you assume they represent the entire university.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students when they leave the rarefied air of universities.


That wasn't my experience. For me it was the other way round. While I was at university, I was too busy studying to care about what was happening in the rest of the world. Nothing else mattered except assignments, exams and marks and the pride I got when I handed in great work and got good marks. I was too interested in my own success to care about anything else (a right-wing attitude). Not all students care about politics.

Finishing my studies and leaving university was like taking off my rose-coloured glasses. I looked at the world around me and saw imperfection. Life wasn't as simple as getting the right answer on the exam. I realised I was a pretty lucky guy to be studying at university and free of debt. A lot of other people weren't so lucky, many of them having to borrow money to study. The reason why I was free of debt was because my family was free of debt. My parents paid off their mortgage a long, long time ago. My parents could afford to support me in my studies and I was a good saver.

I realised that if you came from a family who owned a home where the mortgage still hadn't been paid off, it was likely that the next generation would be facing the same problem. There was therefore a hierarchy. Below me were people having financial difficulties because of the failure to pay off their mortgage. Above me were people earning $100k or above who weren't willing to share the extra money they earned. These people were living "above their means." They had money they didn't need.

Successful people become blind to the hardships of people below them and continue accumulating wealth without caring. If I hadn't been struck down by a medical condition, I probably would have ended up with right-wing views. I have been blinded by my success once before and I don't intend to let that happen again. The reason why I am not a right-winger is because I am not a heartless person who doesn't have a penny to spare.
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 4:43am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm:
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.


if you've ever worked in a university you would know that it is THE left-wing organization in the country. A friend of mine who worked in a uni was reprimanded for having a picture of Howard in his cubicle. Pictures of Keating however were acceptable.

But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students when they leave the rarefied air of universities. The academics however never leave, never work in the real world and thus stay entrenched in their left-wing world where 'free speech' is a concept that applies the them but not everyone else.



That is BS.

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Reply #7 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:24am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm:
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.


if you've ever worked in a university you would know that it is THE left-wing organization in the country. A friend of mine who worked in a uni was reprimanded for having a picture of Howard in his cubicle. Pictures of Keating however were acceptable.

But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students when they leave the rarefied air of universities. The academics however never leave, never work in the real world and thus stay entrenched in their left-wing world where 'free speech' is a concept that applies the them but not everyone else.



Yep. The academics are often more extreme than the students. I found intolerant students to actually be in the minority. The "socialist Alliance" are a minority group on campus that most other students poke fun at.
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Reply #8 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:38am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:42pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 11:14pm:
It is interesting this attempt to silence came from academics and not students.


if you've ever worked in a university you would know that it is THE left-wing organization in the country. A friend of mine who worked in a uni was reprimanded for having a picture of Howard in his cubicle. Pictures of Keating however were acceptable.




You have never been in a Medical, legal, economics etc type campus have you.
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Reply #9 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:41am
 

I think that the campus over reacted even though I do find Mr Howards picture and comments to be quite offensive.
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Mnemonic wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 1:41am:
You're assuming there aren't any "fatcats" in universities. I am pretty sure academics who teach commerce or economics courses would be pretty right-wing, as anyone interested in running businesses and wants to make money would be. There's also the academics teaching law and you know how lawyers like to get rich by charging you lots of legal fees. It's amazing how a piece of paper with writing on it can earn you $10k-$100k. Lawyers love manipulating the world to make themselves richer and I doubt they're going to leave the money to the homeless. There you have it. Here are your right-wingers in universities.


I agree that the business and marketing disciplines tend to produce right-wingers (in the business sense; not sure about the conservative sense). But I'd disagree on the law graduates.There are plenty of lawyers who flock to civil libertarian causes, Human Rights causes, and become asylum seeker protectors. Usually, though, they carry the same manipulative "gene" that other lawyer types possess. Take our friend GregPeccory (he has a law degree apparently). He jumps to the aid of asylum seekers at every opportunity; almost having an emotional meltdown when some one speaks about them disparagingly. But regularly lambastes common Australian folk; he was even ridiculing disabled children the other day. He's your typical left-wing: A hater of Australians, but a lover of the foreigner. And he's a product of our tertiary system.

This hypocrisy is what the op points out. And it's very commonly done by academics. I wouldn't single out the empirical sciences, though. They need empirical results to justify their positions - controlled experiments that can be fact-checked. But in the soft sciences, there is little empirical data used. It's often just personal, political ambition, shrouded in textual analysis and confident self-posturing. The opinion of others is rarely on their mind; unless of course it is in support of their position.
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Reply #11 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:45am
 
But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students

I seem to have gone the other way but that may have just been a responce to the Howard dishonesty.

Could be just that as people gain wealth that what is in their personal best interests change.
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Reply #12 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 9:16am
 
Bigotry is endemic in our society, imo.


Nowhere more so, than in what we call 'the halls of academia', imo.


Dictionary;
bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.


Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."






Are we an 'open', 'tolerant', society ???

Open to what ?

Tolerant to what ?

Perversity,
proffering itself as diversity ?




THE TRUTH IS THAT;
We have become a society where political options which do not align with current mainstream political views cannot be [must not! be even] debated or explored.

We have become a society where free and open debate [exploration], of any political option which is not a part of current mainstream political views is [out of hand] considered bizarre or unhealthy, when the opposite is often true.



Personally, i blame the teachers [educators] of our children.

What sort of [moral] values have teachers [over past decades!] been teaching the children of our society ?

What sort of critical thinking skills have teachers been teaching, imbuing the children of our society with ?

Virtually none, imo.

Why have many our children come to a view, a worldview of life, which opposes allowing anyone who does not share their own worldview, to even express a differing opinion to themselves ?

Very few of our children seem to be able to see the logic, and the real value to an open society [and to a society which hopes to be free!], of open and free debate with others, to explore issues and ideas.

Nor do they see the value of allowing others to challenge their own views [their own worldviews] with logical [critical] thinking.


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CONSIDER;

Q.
How is it possible to reason with a person [or a group], when in the first instance, that person [or group] objects to you even expressing your position [because your position, is not his/her own position!] ?
[n.b. this is precisely the same immoral and unreasoning 'mechanism' whereby ISLAM/moslems stifle the exploration of ideas, which may expose ISLAM to yet more criticism!]

Q.
How is it possible to explore [intellectually, in debate] any 'position' of logic or fact, when one side tells the other party, that they may not [are not permitted! to] express a view [to explore] ?        [and again, this is precisely the position taken by fundamentalist moslems!]



Dictionary;
reason = =
1 think, understand, and form judgements logically.    (reason something out) find a solution to a problem by considering possible options.
2 persuade with rational argument.



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Quote:
   American colleges and universities are hothouses of hypocrisy,
   and the principal exhibit is that while their spokesmen talk
   endlessly about their commitment to openness, tolerance,
   critical thinking, diversity, and so on, many of them have
   adopted policies designed to stifle the expression of unpopular
   sentiments and empower certain groups to punish others for
   having the temerity to speak their minds.

     George C. Leef
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Reply #13 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 9:21am
 
Howard's slogan was pure dog whistle, but the MULC had a right to display it. They should have stood their ground.
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Reply #14 - Apr 17th, 2013 at 9:39am
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:45am:
But just as when people get older and wiser they abandon left-wing silliness so do students

I seem to have gone the other way but that may have just been a responce to the Howard dishonesty.

Could be just that as people gain wealth that what is in their personal best interests change.




yet you go with gillard...nothing more dishonest than she... oh well its all in the mind as they say..

what offends one pleases another.. funny old world...


what is your ideal labor party dna.... do they really stand for what you believe in?
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