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Reply #45 - Aug 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

How can you blatantly lie like that, even the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

No they haven't don't be silly.

The IPCC have NOT "admitted that there has been no warming since 1998"

Look at the quote you provided yourself:

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'Nothing off-limits' in climate debate

THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office, but said it would need to last "30 to 40 years at least" to break the long-term global warming trend.

How does saying that it would take at least 30 or 40 years of static surface temperature to break the long-term global warming trend equate to:
the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

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Reply #46 - Aug 5^th, 2013 at 7:41pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

How can you blatantly lie like that, even the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

No they haven't don't be silly.

The IPCC have NOT "admitted that there has been no warming since 1998"

Look at the quote you provided yourself:

Quote:

'Nothing off-limits' in climate debate

THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office, but said it would need to last "30 to 40 years at least" to break the long-term global warming trend.

How does saying that it would take at least 30 or 40 years of static surface temperature to break the long-term global warming trend equate to:
the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

Of course not...because that would mean that they are fraudulently accepting money....

amusingly...have you noticed that the 'required' interval gets longer and longer, as time goes on???...

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Reply #47 - Aug 5^th, 2013 at 8:49pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

How can you blatantly lie like that, even the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

No they haven't don't be silly.

The IPCC have NOT "admitted that there has been no warming since 1998"

Look at the quote you provided yourself:

Quote:

'Nothing off-limits' in climate debate

THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office, but said it would need to last "30 to 40 years at least" to break the long-term global warming trend.

How does saying that it would take at least 30 or 40 years of static surface temperature to break the long-term global warming trend equate to:
the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

Of course not...because that would mean that they are fraudulently accepting money....

amusingly...have you noticed that the 'required' interval gets longer and longer, as time goes on???...

WTF are you taliking about?

Ajax was caught red-handed telling a lie.

He said:

the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998

They have said nothing of the sort.

He told a lie and was caught telling it.

Do you have anything relevant to add?

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Reply #48 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

Rider wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

muso wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

Good post, apart from the personal insults.

Well insults are the stock in trade for alarmist clap trap.

Oh, and I'm not scared of a few mm of ocean rises, and there is no basis for attributing any naturally occurring event (every natural event seen today has been seen before, there is no increase proven in occurrence nor severity - you turn your panic control back to normal..ok??)

Have you noticed the discord between rising co2 and temperatures......another oops moment - you do realise your primary tenet is now proven to be broken? you need to take your hypothesis back to the shop and I do hope us tax payers get a refund.

Oceans rise, oceans fall, no biggy so get over it and get on with your life and stop trying desperately to create a fear based political solution to a non problem. Climate blah blah blah is so yesterday.

Oceans rise, oceans fall - yes. But over recent decades they have only risen:

Which is exactly what you would expect since the oceans are warming. It is called thermal expansion.

The oceans are warming because the entire planet is warming due to the increased heat energy being redirected to the earth's surface due to the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses from anthropogenic sources.

Denying this is silly. Despite what columnists in the Daily Mail may tell you.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137969 Gender:	Re: H2O decreasing while CO2 rises! Oops Reply #49 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:13pm rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:10pm: Denying this is silly. Denying, yes. Being sceptical, however, is not silly: quite the opposite in fact.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: H2O decreasing while CO2 rises! Oops Reply #50 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 3:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:13pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:10pm: Denying this is silly. Denying, yes. Being sceptical, however, is not silly: quite the opposite in fact. You don't know what being sceptical means!
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Reply #51 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:10pm:

Denying this is silly.

Denying, yes.

Being sceptical, however, is not silly: quite the opposite in fact.

You're right to question everything. Be suspicious and test everything. I did that too, but there comes a time after you've exhausted all reasonable questions to accept the results. To fail to do that is unscientific.

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When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains--however improbable--must be the truth

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What I don't accept is some of the political agendas that are bundled with very valid theory. The fact remains that there is a problem that we have to deal with ... somehow. That "somehow" in my opinion is to shift towards renewable energy sources.

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Reply #52 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 6:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 1:10pm:

Denying this is silly.

Denying, yes.

Being sceptical, however, is not silly: quite the opposite in fact.

Yes Greggery. It is good to be sceptical.

Could you tell us what particularly raises your scepticism about the widely held scientific opinion that
the oceans are warming because the entire planet is warming due to the increased heat energy being redirected to the earth's surface due to the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses from anthropogenic sources?

Are you sceptical that the oceans are warming? Do you doubt that the oceans are warming? Do you have any facts to support this notion? Could you tell us?

Are you sceptical that the planet is warming? Do you doubt that the planet is warming? Do you have any facts to support this notion? Could you tell us?

Are you sceptical that there is increased heat energy being redirected to the earth's surface due to the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses? Do you doubt that there is increased heat energy being redirected to the earth's surface due to the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses? Do you have any facts to support this notion? Could you tell us?

Are you sceptical that the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses is revived mainly from anthropogenic sources? Do you doubt that the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses is revived mainly from anthropogenic sources? Do you have any facts to support this notion? Could you tell us?

We would love to hear Greggery.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: H2O decreasing while CO2 rises! Oops Reply #53 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:08am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 3:26pm: The hydrological cycle says HIGH! Weather baloons ans satelite data say DECREASE. Rather believe real world measured data rather than a computer simulated model and its predictions.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: H2O decreasing while CO2 rises! Oops Reply #54 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:09am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 3:31pm: Don't know much about phase change do ya buddy! No matter how you wrap bullsh!t its always going to be just that when opened.
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Reply #55 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:14am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:46am:

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

If your theory cannot be proven by real world data its just a theory!!!!

Stand by for one of the AGW cult's most ridiculous statements:

"Gravity is a theory too".

Grin

Yes Greggery. "Gravity is a theory too".

What do you find ridiculous about that?

Can you explain?

Is it now?

When all your theory is confirmed by real world data, how can this be???

Too bad AGW is just a theory and a very bad one at that, meaning it has so many holes in its armour it wont be long before all people on this planet will cast it away as junk.

Which is precisley what it is.

No NO its a new $2 trllion dollar market for bankers to once again fleece nations of their money.

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Reply #56 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:18am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

How can you blatantly lie like that, even the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

No they haven't don't be silly.

The IPCC have NOT "admitted that there has been no warming since 1998"

Look at the quote you provided yourself:

Quote:

'Nothing off-limits' in climate debate

THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office, but said it would need to last "30 to 40 years at least" to break the long-term global warming trend.

How does saying that it would take at least 30 or 40 years of static surface temperature to break the long-term global warming trend equate to:
the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998??

Crikies champ are you on the AGW gravy train????

There has been no warming since 1998, meanining temperature have not passed the 1998 value.

Even the IPCC head, the met office and even the father of global warming Hansen have aknowledged this.

So just face the facts.

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Reply #57 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:20am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Are you sceptical that the increase in the concentration of greenhouse gasses is revived mainly from anthropogenic sources?

Yes.

The AGW cult don't have any "facts" (your term, not mine) to support that claim.

I'll remain open-minded and sceptical. You'll remain closed-minded and gullible.

Such is life.

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Reply #58 - Aug 7^th, 2013 at 9:41am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 5^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

WTF are you taliking about?

Ajax was caught red-handed telling a lie.

He said:

the IPCC have admitted that there has been no warming since 1998

They have said nothing of the sort.

He told a lie and was caught telling it.

Do you have anything relevant to add?

You alarmists really make me laugh, cause you do yourself a great disservice to the reader by acting like a monkeys fighting for the last bannana.

Once again here it is for your understanding.

Do you know that Rajendra Pachauri is the head of the IPCC????????

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'Nothing off-limits' in climate debate

THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office, but said it would need to last "30 to 40 years at least" to break the long-term global warming trend.

Dr Pachauri, the chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said that open discussion about controversial science and politically incorrect views was an essential part of tackling climate change.

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Surprise Surprise... Global warming has stalled, admits Met Office

THE great global warming debate was blown wide open again yesterday when the Met Office predicted cooler than expected temperatures for the next five years.

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The Met Office, one of the top cheerleaders for the man-made climate change camp, said global temperatures are likely to be lower than it forecast in December 2011.

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Leading global warming scienstist agree there has been no warming in the last 16 years, Hansen, Sato and Ruedy

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