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Reply #15 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 2:37pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:38pm:

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They should have just killed 10's of thousands the regular way, like Tokyo.

What about the holocaust? Christian Germany is said to have cooked six million jews. And what about christian europe? Not one christian country wanted the jews. They packed them off to Palestine & let the jews slaughter the muslims village by village and the ones who survived they locked them on a reservation and declared them persona non grata - Stateless.

This and uncountable atrocities like it is the trademark of the 'religion of love'.

You're not supposed to talk about that

WHite males in countries such as the USA. UK and Israel decide what is a war crime and what isn't.

Who sank the USS liberty?

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Reply #16 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 2:42pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:38pm:

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They should have just killed 10's of thousands the regular way, like Tokyo.

What about the holocaust? Christian Germany is said to have cooked six million jews. And what about christian europe? Not one christian country wanted the jews.

They packed them off to Palestine & let the jews slaughter the muslims village by village and the ['Palestinians'] who survived they locked them on a reservation and declared them persona non grata - Stateless.

This and uncountable atrocities like it is the trademark of the 'religion of love'.

aalf,

Palestinians are a stateless people are they ?

Why is that ?

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?

Don't their moslem brothers, have any love and compassion for their 'stateless Palestinians' brothers ?

Why not ???

I know!
Its coz there is not enough land in the Middle East that could accommodate the 'stateless Palestinians'.

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1337653279/99#99
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AS MOSLEMS, why are moslems refusing to 'take in' into the Ummah, the dispossessed 'Palestinian people' ???

Have moslems lost all of their pity for their 'Palestinian' brothers and sisters ???

Again, isn't there enough room in Saudi Arabia for the dispossessed 'Palestinians' ?

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Palestinian people fed up with militants
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1353406295/64#64

More Australian Muslim terrorists
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1347508056/211#211

Israel and the Palestinians
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1334533098/263#263

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Jordan, is the 'homeland' and the legitimate 'state' of all ethnic 'Palestinians'.

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Re: US - calls for “increased surveillance” of Muslims
Reply #17 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 2:51pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:38pm:

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They should have just killed 10's of thousands the regular way, like Tokyo.

What about the holocaust? Christian Germany is said to have cooked six million jews. And what about christian europe? Not one christian country wanted the jews. They packed them off to Palestine & let the jews slaughter the muslims village by village and the ones who survived they locked them on a reservation and declared them persona non grata - Stateless.

This and uncountable atrocities like it is the trademark of the 'religion of love'.

What about it?

You say killing 100,00 people with a big bomb is a war crime against Japan.

You ignore the 100,000 killed with conventional bombs in Japan.

Almost as if you don’t/didn’t know about the lives lost in Tokyo – just because it wasn’t a “big bomb”

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Reply #18 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 4:06pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 2:42pm:

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?

Refuse to? Hmmm I think Jordan must have missed a memo since they are currently "absorbing" nearly 3 million of them. Millions of other Palestinians have been absorbed all around the middle east - notably in Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

The problem though is that people have this bizarre tendency to want to live in their ancestral homeland - where their cultural and family roots are. Not some culturally and linguistically foreign country.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #19 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 5:07pm

Yadda Filisteen is the homeland of the filisteens / Filistinians / palestinians.

Samson murdered killed a whole temple full of kafir filisteen men women & children. And Dawood (peace be upon him) slayed jalut the giant and forced the kafir filisteen nation to pay tribute.

Their homeland has always been the south west portion of the holy lands. "Cause your bible tells you so." Why do you deny it??

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"They took the whole Palestinian Nation,
And locked us in this reservation....."

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Reply #21 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 6:28pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 5:07pm:

Yadda Filisteen is the homeland of the filisteens / Filistinians / palestinians.

Samson murdered killed a whole temple full of kafir filisteen men women & children. And Dawood (peace be upon him) slayed jalut the giant and forced the kafir filisteen nation to pay tribute.

Their homeland has always been the south west portion of the holy lands. "Cause your bible tells you so." Why do you deny it??

Kafir- that's a nice word isn't it. The christians have the same type of word for muslims. It's called heathens. Words like that sure aint going to build any bridges. That's why nutjob religious morons are tearing the world apart. Thank god for the sane people.

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Reply #22 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 4:06pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 2:42pm:

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?

Refuse to? Hmmm I think Jordan must have missed a memo since they are currently "absorbing" nearly 3 million of them.

Millions of other Palestinians have been absorbed all around the middle east - notably in Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

That is great ISLAMIC historic revisionism gandalf.

And not untypical of any moslem, with a lie on his lips in his heart.i
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Myth:

"The Arab states have always welcomed the Palestinians and done their best to resettle them."

Fact:
Jordan was the only Arab country to welcome the Palestinians and grant them citizenship (to this day Jordan is the only Arab country where Palestinians as a group can become citizens). King Abdullah considered the Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians one people. By 1950, he annexed the West Bank and forbade the use of the term Palestine in official documents (Speech to Parliament, April 24, 1950, King Abdallah, My Memoirs Completed, London: Longman Group, Ltd., 1978, p. 13; Aaron Miller, The Arab States and the Palestine Question, DC: Center for Strategic and International Studies, 1986, p. 29).

Although demographic figures indicated ample room for settlement existed in Syria, Damascus refused to consider accepting any refugees, except those who might refuse repatriation. Syria also declined to resettle 85,000 refugees in 1952-54, though it had been offered international funds to pay for the project. Iraq was also expected to accept a large number of refugees, but proved unwilling. Lebanon insisted it had no room for the Palestinians. In 1950, the UN tried to resettle 150,000 refugees from Gaza in Libya, but was rebuffed by Egypt.

After the 1948 war, Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip and its more than 200,000 inhabitants, but refused to allow the Palestinians into Egypt or permit them to move elsewhere.

http://www.jewishfederations.org/page.aspx?id=47015

"King Abdullah considered the Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians one people."

Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians, one people - King Abdullah of JORDAN

Google;

arab states refuse palestinians, citizenship

iHey gandalf,

Can you think of any [political] motive, why surrounding Arab states would refuse citizenship to the poor 'stateless', 'Palestinians' ???

Hmmmm ?

No ?

Of course not.

You are a moslem, with an agenda.

AGAIN;

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?

Don't their moslem brothers, have any love and compassion for their 'stateless Palestinians' brothers ?

Why not ???

I know!
Its coz there is not enough land in the Middle East that could accommodate the 'stateless Palestinians'.

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Reply #23 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:28pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:38pm:

.......the jews slaughter the muslims village by village and the ones who survived they locked them on a reservation and declared them persona non grata - Stateless.

WHICH IS A MOSLEM PROPAGANDA LIE!

But hey aalf, tell me;

If moslem invaders are 'righteous' in stealing all of these lands by force of the sword;

THEN PLEASE EXPLAIN, WHY IS IT WRONG FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO TAKE BACK THEIR OWN ANCIENT HOMELAND, AND TO DEFEND IT BY FORCE OF ARMS ???

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Reply #24 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:55pm

Yadda, can you explain to me rationally and calmly why The Syrians and Iraqis have some sort of obligation to resettle tens of thousands of refugees?

Israel: We'll take back our ancient homeland by force - expel the inhabitants, and it is totally the responsibility of the surrounding arab nations to clean up the mess.

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:20pm:

"King Abdullah considered the Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians one people."

Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians, one people - King Abdullah of JORDAN

Yes, and until 1967, the west bank was part of Jordan. Then Israel invaded and annexed the west bank.

Question for you Yadda: if the Palestinians (at least those from the West Bank) really should be part of Jordan, then why did Israel stop that from happening?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #25 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 8:19pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:20pm:

Hey gandalf,

Can you think of any [political] motive, why surrounding Arab states would refuse citizenship to the poor 'stateless', 'Palestinians' ???

Hmmmm ?

No ?

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The Palestinian refugees held the UN responsible for ameliorating their condition; nevertheless, many Palestinians were unhappy with the treatment they were receiving from their Arab brethren. Some, like Palestinian nationalist leader Musa Alami were incredulous: "It is shameful that the Arab governments should prevent the Arab refugees from working in their countries and shut the doors in their faces and imprison them in camps" (Musa Alami, "The Lesson of Palestine," Middle East Journal, October 1949, p. 386). Most refugees, however, focused their discontentment on "the Zionists," whom they blamed for their predicament rather than the vanquished Arab armies.

http://www.jewishfederations.org/page.aspx?id=47015

AGAIN;

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?

Don't their moslem brothers, have any love and compassion for their 'stateless Palestinians' brothers ?

Why not ???

I know!
Its coz there is not enough land in the Middle East that could accommodate the 'stateless Palestinians'.

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Reply #26 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 8:22pm

Sayeth Yadda: Quote:

aalf,

Palestinians are a stateless people are they ?

Why is that ?

Because the christians in 1948 declared Israel for the Jews & for the filisteens they declared a 'native reservation' with no rights and not even access to complain to the UN as they were 'stateless'.

sayeth Yadda: Quote:

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?
Don't their moslem brothers, have any love and compassion for their 'stateless Palestinians' brothers ?

Who would have imagined that such a cruel people as the christians would intern fellow human beings in gulags for so long. And still no compassion for what you have done.

and YES the ummah has compassion. First the west's puppet dictators need to be removed. Then islam re-established. The target date for victory is 2023. Only ten years to go. Alhamdulillah.

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"They took the whole Palestinian Nation,
And locked us in this reservation....."

some Ozzy vocab: bugger fkd dam f*ck bugger bugger smacking bugger*ng farked fu#ckers effing smacking

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Reply #27 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 8:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 7:55pm:

Yadda, can you explain to me rationally and calmly why The Syrians and Iraqis have some sort of obligation to resettle tens of thousands of refugees?

Coz they are moslems ?

Coz they are all part of the ummah ?

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Israel: We'll take back our ancient homeland by force -

expel the inhabitants, and it is totally the responsibility of the surrounding arab nations to clean up the mess.

gandalf,

EXAMPLE;

At the end of WWII, there were millions of stateless people in Europe, many who had no 'right' to return to their previous homelands.

But the infidels, the infidel states!!!!!!, of Europe absorbed all of those stateless people.

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So why have the Arabs of the middle east refused to absorb and provide citizenship to the 'stateless' 'Palestinians' ?

To their own moslem brothers and sistas ?

A.
There can only be one reason.
It is because Arabs are inhospitable, mean, grasping, greedy, selfish, uncaring ogres - even towards there own moslem brethren.

Saudi Arabia, the wealthiest moslem nation in the region, could have absorbed all of the 'stateless' 'Palestinians', in land and resources [for them] - and still of had $US trillions left over.

But Saudis, clearly, don't give a damn about 'stateless' 'Palestinians'.

Clearly, as far as the Arabs of the middle east are 'concerned', the 'stateless' 'Palestinians', CAN GO TO HELL!!!!

'Concerned' ?

Did i say 'concerned' ?

Ha!!!!!!

The day when Arabs of the middle east are concerned for the 'poor' 'stateless' 'Palestinians' - THAT'LL BE THE DAY, WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER!

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Reply #28 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 8:58pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 8:22pm:

sayeth Yadda: Quote:

And why does the moslem ummah REFUSE to absorb the 'stateless Palestinians' ?
Don't their moslem brothers, have any love and compassion for their 'stateless Palestinians' brothers ?

Who would have imagined that such a cruel people as the christians would intern fellow human beings in gulags for so long. And still no compassion for what you have done.

So, you have no moslem brotherly love, for your 'stateless' 'Palestinian' brothers then.

That is what you are saying.

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Even though Arab moslems in the region could remedy the 'situation' of the 'stateless' 'Palestinians', they won't,

THEY REFUSE TO.

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and YES the ummah has compassion. First the west's puppet dictators need to be removed. Then islam re-established. The target date for victory is 2023. Only ten years to go. Alhamdulillah.

Moslems have no ability, only a 'panache' for lies, deception and threats.

Oh, and of course, a 'natural talent' to murder victims , who are defenceless.

"If you surrender to our moslem armies, we will show you [our moslem] mercy. [....then lead those who surrender to them off in small groups, to their slaughter, just like Mohammed did.]"

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Reply #29 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 9:18pm

AaLF wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:38pm:

What about the holocaust? Christian Germany is said to have cooked six million jews. And what about christian europe? Not one christian country wanted the jews. They packed them off to Palestine & let the jews slaughter the muslims village by village and the ones who survived they locked them on a reservation and declared them persona non grata - Stateless.

This and uncountable atrocities like it is the trademark of the 'religion of love'.

Here we go 'round the mulberry bush. The usual, and completely predictable, comparisons to the Crusades, the Holocaust, the Inquisition and other like events.

Tell me, good sir, since Islam is younger than Christendom, and currently considerably less enlightened - just what is the current total death toll of the 'Religion of Peace'?

And should the world this time, rather than just Europe, be preparing for another Crusade?

How much longer should we accept casualties in an undeclared global war?

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