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Bobby.

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GST to rise to 15%
Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:06pm

From another discussion board & I also saw it on TV this morning:

http://community.ebay.com.au/topic/Community-Spirit/Budget/600158525

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Apr 22, 2013 07:07 AM

I listened to Amanda Vanstone and Grahame Richardson this morning and what I heard was very concerning.

They both agreed that what ever party wins the election in September the GST will most likely rise at some stage to at least 15% because the deficit at this stage ( and rising) is so huge and there is NO money in the coffers.

The mining boom has weakened somewhat and this government has grossly overspent, the OZ dollar is to strong against other currencies but GR stated any credible treasury department would have foreseen and taken appropriate measures long before now because the OZ dollar has been high for over 2 years.

The Swan budget will be interesting but I think it will be his "swan song"

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: GST to rise to 15% Reply #1 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:11pm The GST should've been 15% from 1993 as Hewson proposed. 20 years with 50% more GST revenue would have achieved wonders in health & education. Thanks to Keating the GST was postponed & watered down. Labor shot themselves in the foot and Aust with it there
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: GST to rise to 15% Reply #2 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:13pm Hi Swag, well I think all the State leaders will agree to it because most of them are broke too. None of them had any money for Gonski.
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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #3 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:24pm

Swagman wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:11pm:

The GST should've been 15% from 1993 as Hewson proposed.

20 years with 50% more GST revenue would have achieved wonders in health & education.

Thanks to Keating the GST was postponed & watered down.

Labor shot themselves in the foot and Aust with it there Sad

LOL

Swagman,

Your powers of observation and deduction amaze me!!!! Tongue

If you give a spendthrift drunk more money to spend, will he curb his drunkenness ?

And if we give politicians more money to spend will our pollies suddenly become less negligent and wasteful in their spending policies ?

LOL

Dream on!

Pollies [of any every 'persuasion'] love spending other peoples money, extravagantly, WASTEFULLY, and especially when there is no proper accountability .

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: GST to rise to 15% Reply #4 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm Correct Yadda, the more we give them the more they will spend & they'll even borrow more too.
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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #5 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:28pm

Swagman wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:11pm:

The GST should've been 15% from 1993 as Hewson proposed.

20 years with 50% more GST revenue would have achieved wonders in health & education.

Thanks to Keating the GST was postponed & watered down.

Labor shot themselves in the foot and Aust with it there Sad

How about a 660 billion dollar sovereign wealth fund from the proceeds of a 78% super profits tax just like Norway has

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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #6 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:13pm:

Hi Swag,
well I think all the State leaders will agree to it because most of them are broke too.
None of them had any money for Gonski.

Funny how Gonski recommended about 5.5 billion dollars to assist with upgrading and improving the education system in Australia

The fine print included about 1.8 billion to the elite private school system

I wonder how many politicians send their children to the public school system (which educates about 70% of the students in Australia)

Indeed, I wonder which school Gonski's children attend

Why is the tax payer providing funding for a SO CALLED private education???? And why is the tax payer funding religious based schools - which include catholic, Jewish and Islamic schools etc???

And these religious schools can circumvent the anti-discrimination act by refusing to employ teachers that dont meet religious criteria.

Gonski's recommendations are fine provided that private education system is left out of the money loop.

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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #7 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:31pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:28pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:11pm:

The GST should've been 15% from 1993 as Hewson proposed.

20 years with 50% more GST revenue would have achieved wonders in health & education.

Thanks to Keating the GST was postponed & watered down.

Labor shot themselves in the foot and Aust with it there Sad

How about a 660 billion dollar sovereign wealth fund from the proceeds of a 78% super profits tax just like Norway has

But Norway is an intelligent, civilised and long term looking nation.

(Australia's so called mining and energy resource sector is 84% foreign owned - Australia is laughed at overseas and the biggest sucker nation on the planet - we are collectively a bunch of idiotic moronic clown puppets that emit a foul cowardly stench into the stratosphere)

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: GST to rise to 15% Reply #8 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:33pm Chimp, Quote: Gonski's recommendations are fine provided that private education system is left out of the money loop. Dear Chimp, Is it fair that the rich pay twice - once for their own kids & again for other people's kids to get an education?
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21765 A cat with a view	Re: GST to rise to 15% Reply #9 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm: Correct Yadda, the more we give them the more they will spend & they'll even borrow more too. Thanks bobby. And tonight you didn't find my post, too verbose, and unintelligible ? Even though i used more than one line, to express myself!
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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #10 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:48pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:29pm:

The fine print included about 1.8 billion to the elite private school system

I wonder how many politicians send their children to the public school system (which educates about 70% of the students in Australia)

Indeed, I wonder which school Gonski's children attend

Why is the tax payer providing funding for a SO CALLED private education???? And why is the tax payer funding religious based schools - which include catholic, Jewish and Islamic schools etc???

Julia Gillard caved in to pressure from Tony Abbott when Abbott claimed Julia was discriminating against private schools. Julia was so embarrassed and intimidated by what Tony said that she decided not to give less funding to private schools. It's just like how she caved in to pressure to cut costs to get back to the budget surplus, removing discounts for upfront payment of HECS fees and cutting support for single mothers. This was despite what Wayne Swan said earlier that returning to surplus was no longer a good idea. Julia's government simply can't stick to the same plan persistently. If we have to put up with a deficit, then fine. Don't start cutting costs again. It is an erratic government with no clear direction and frequently back-flips. When they do figure out what to do, they end up hurting or disadvantaging the wrong people.

Julia is a political coward and I think she should resign right now. Immediately. She just can't stand up to Tony's attacks. I support Tony's motion for a vote of no confidence. Let's kick this coward out of office.

That's three strikes, Julia. You're out.

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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #11 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:49pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm:

Correct Yadda,
the more we give them the more they will spend & they'll even borrow more too.

Thanks bobby.

And tonight you didn't find my post, too verbose, and unintelligible ? Wink

Even though i used more than one line, to express myself! Tongue

It could have been more concise but I struggled through it found what you were trying to say.

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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #12 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:33pm:

Chimp,
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Gonski's recommendations are fine provided that private education system is left out of the money loop.

Dear Chimp,
Is it fair that the rich pay twice -
once for their own kids & again for other people's kids to get an education?

They don't pay twice ... they pay taxes just like everyone else ... you don't get a say in where those taxes are spent, the govt. on the other hand has a duty to provide free education for everyone ... anything above and beyond that (ie. fuinding private schools) is an extravagence we cannot afford.

should they chose to go to private education, that is their choice .... why should my taxes subsidies their private schooling?

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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #13 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm:

Correct Yadda,
the more we give them the more they will spend & they'll even borrow more too.

Thanks bobby.

And tonight you didn't find my post, too verbose, and unintelligible ? Wink

Even though i used more than one line, to express myself! Tongue

It could have been more concise but I struggled through it found what you were trying to say.

LOL

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: GST to rise to 15%
Reply #14 - Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:56pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 10:33pm:

Chimp,
Quote:

Gonski's recommendations are fine provided that private education system is left out of the money loop.

Dear Chimp,
Is it fair that the rich pay twice -
once for their own kids & again for other people's kids to get an education?

They don't pay twice ... they pay taxes just like everyone else ... you don't get a say in where those taxes are spent, the govt. on the other hand has a duty to provide free education for everyone ... anything above and beyond that (ie. fuinding private schools) is an extravagence we cannot afford.

should they chose to go to private education, that is their choice .... why should my taxes subsidies their private schooling?

Otherwise there will be a Labor induced class war.

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Question: Should the GST rise to 15% to stop Govt. bankruptcy?
yes 4 (21.1%) no 14 (73.7%) not sure 1 (5.3%) Total votes: 19 « Created by: Bobby. on: Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:12pm »