Ya gotta love the naivety of some - the extra money from 1993 from GST would have gone into all the usual pet projects and not the hospitals and the health system.

We all know that government is doing it tough and so they need to come back to your pocket again and again.  Why not make a donation now.  I'll set up a trust fund at the bank, and we'll accept donations to save Australia from bankruptcy.

In about a year's time with good donations, I could very effectively manage that from my new estate in South America or some other safe haven..........The Bahamas sound good....

...pay twice???

Using that rationality, people who choose to pay for private health care, or purchase expensive vehicles should be subsidised for their affluent decision making

We wouldn't want Clive Palmer or Gina to be out of pocket now would we ladies and gentlemen

Especially seeing as our beloved Gina prefers foreign workers on special slave visas and wants people to work for 2 dollars per day.

I have no issue with private education - but lets apply the nice principles of corporate capitalism to these so called institutions of  higher supreme learning. Let them pay their own way rather than leach on the corporate welfare teat.

Its the least that can be done for these elitist capitalists - who after all, hold capitalist and corporate ideals dear to their hearts

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:01pm:


The State is under corporate rule - foreign corporate rule to be precise

Its a Corpocracy - a type of slave fascist Oligarchical tyranny.

This is why when Rudd stuck his head up just a little bit and suggested that MAYBE, just MAYBE the elite corporate mining sector (which is 83% foreign owned) could pay additional tax when it generates super profits.

And we all know what happened to Rudd - overnight the corporately run media had a frenzy. This evil Marxist must be stopped - and stopped he was, by his own party.

You understood then and there who was in control of this country - and it wasn't the government or the people.

We are essentially supreme buggerwits in this country

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:


As far as the relationship between capitalism and socialism is concerned, there is only one class in Australia: the bourgeoisie. We are all bourgeoisie because we all aspire to accumulate private property, except for the homeless ones and "downshifters" who are effectively in rebellion against our bourgeoisie society. There is therefore no real class war. It is just one group of bourgeoisies against another group.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:


See above. It's bourgeoisie vs. bourgeoisie.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:


It's a civil war that won't change anything. There will always be high-income bourgeoisie and low-income bourgeoisie.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:


It's funny how you regard the ALP as "socialist" when they have done little to eliminate a culture of wealth accumulation. You see, Karl Marx was against accumulation of private property. He saw it as a waste of time and resources. It is no wonder our export industry can't compete. We pay higher wages in order to keep our people in the game of "keeping up with the Joneses," because of course nobody wants to be left behind in this competition to accumulate as much private property as possible before their old age.

Bolsheviks? Socialists? What Bolsheviks? What socialists? I don't see them anywhere. The ones who appear to be Bolsheviks and socialists are really wolves in sheep's clothing, false prophets who have done nothing to rid this society of a culture that compels people to accumulate private property to keep up with the Joneses.

Until the ALP starts campaigning to eliminate and reduce private property, I will never regard them as socialists, regardless of how much they increase social security payments, which only serves to increase the bourgeoisie culture of greed. Social security isn't really socialism. It's bourgeoisie welfare. The ALP is just there to help the least fortunate bourgeoisie.

The only "true socialists" (in terms of reducing/eliminating private property) in this land are the down-shifters and they have nothing to do with the government.

inevitable and probably the fairest way to raise revenue

Kat wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2013 at 8:19am:


Why?  No let me guess.  You don't pay income tax now so income tax increases don't effect you and so an increase in the GST will (shock horror) mean that you will actually have to pay some tax to contribute to the running of the Government? 

The issue of the GST raised its head initially (by the Reaper himself) as one way of assisting the humongous cost of the aging of the population.

What happens when the population ages?

The proportion of income tax payers declines and the proportion of retirees increases.  A vast number will not be self funded and will therefore avail themselves of the pension and the 'free' health system and the burden of payment will rest upon the declining proportion of income tax payers.

Governments will go into deficit and borrow more to pay for their pork barrelling schemes rather than commit suicide and increase taxes.

Broad based taxes such as the GST collect tax from everyone.  Drug dealers, cash tradies, tourists etc etc etc

Kat wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2013 at 9:35am:


Fine, but what are your reasons for not increasing the GST?