Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22
nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
Wow - I must have missed something - Australia has never been without a class war, and it is getting worse. here is M my learned rendition of the current malaise of the 'classless society - the only lack of class in it is the way it is run and is running....
As far as the relationship between capitalism and socialism is concerned, there is only one class in Australia: the bourgeoisie. We are all bourgeoisie because we all aspire to accumulate private property, except for the homeless ones and "downshifters" who are effectively in rebellion against our bourgeoisie society. There is therefore no real class war. It is just one group of bourgeoisies against another group.
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22
nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
See above. It's bourgeoisie vs. bourgeoisie.
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22
nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
It's a civil war that won't change anything. There will always be high-income bourgeoisie and low-income bourgeoisie.
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22
nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
Labor/Democrats - whatever - all socio-fascists end up with a ruling oligarchy of Bolshevik mates, who are more equal than the rest.
It's funny how you regard the ALP as "socialist" when they have done little to eliminate a culture of wealth accumulation. You see, Karl Marx was against accumulation of private property. He saw it as a waste of time and resources. It is no wonder our export industry can't compete. We pay higher wages in order to keep our people in the game of "keeping up with the Joneses," because of course nobody wants to be left behind in this competition to accumulate as much private property as possible before their old age.
Bolsheviks? Socialists? What Bolsheviks? What socialists? I don't see them anywhere. The ones who appear to be Bolsheviks and socialists are really wolves in sheep's clothing, false prophets who have done nothing to rid this society of a culture that compels people to accumulate private property to keep up with the Joneses.
Until the ALP starts campaigning to eliminate and reduce private property, I will never regard them as socialists, regardless of how much they increase social security payments, which only serves to increase the bourgeoisie culture of greed. Social security isn't really socialism. It's bourgeoisie welfare. The ALP is just there to help the least fortunate bourgeoisie.
The only "true socialists" (in terms of reducing/eliminating private property) in this land are the down-shifters and they have nothing to do with the government.