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Reply #46 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:39pm

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

The point i made was that there are not the jobs out there to accommodate the unemployed.

Not my problem, but if I had to solve it, I'd just cut the extra 200,000 we import into the job market from overseas each year. It really is that simple.

That still leaves around 200,000

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Reply #47 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

You are right. Quantum yet again managed to distract us onto a strawman. The point i made was that there are not the jobs out there to accommodate the unemployed.

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More BS. All i said was this;

"If you are as skilled as you claim, start your own business. If not, go deliver pizzas or what ever job you can get."

That's it. You started all this teenage crap, and people being too old to get a job.

My comment was just saying get whatever job you can. They are out there if you look.

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Reply #48 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

The point i made was that there are not the jobs out there to accommodate the unemployed.

Not my problem, but if I had to solve it, I'd just cut the extra 200,000 we import into the job market from overseas each year. It really is that simple.

That still leaves around 200,000

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Then continue for 1 more year.

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Reply #49 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

You are right. Quantum yet again managed to distract us onto a strawman. The point i made was that there are not the jobs out there to accommodate the unemployed.

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More BS. All i said was this;

"If you are as skilled as you claim, start your own business. If not, go deliver pizzas or what ever job you can get."

That's it. You started all this teenage crap, and people being too old to get a job.

My comment was just saying get whatever job you can. They are out there if you look.

Dont quote mine "trole". Too old to get a job delivering pizzas.

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Reply #50 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:44pm

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

"Q. How are drivers paid?
You can be paid either per delivery or an hourly rate plus a per delivery fee. More specific information will be available at your interview." [/i]

Well, when you get that "specific information", let us all know what it is.

We're all dying to hear.

Anyway, good luck with the interview.

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Reply #51 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

You are right. Quantum yet again managed to distract us onto a strawman. The point i made was that there are not the jobs out there to accommodate the unemployed.

SOB

More BS. All i said was this;

"If you are as skilled as you claim, start your own business. If not, go deliver pizzas or what ever job you can get."

That's it. You started all this teenage crap, and people being too old to get a job.

My comment was just saying get whatever job you can. They are out there if you look.

Dont quote mine "trole". Too old to get a job delivering pizzas.

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You are so smacking dumb You should be banned just because of what a moronic retard you are.

All I said was;

"If you are as skilled as you claim, start your own business. If not, go deliver pizzas or what ever job you can get."

You then started the whole Pizza shlt discussion by talking about about how they only hire teenagers. There was no Pizza discussion until you missed the point (yet again);

Take what ever job you can! If that means delivery Pizza's, do it.

How thick can someone be.

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Reply #52 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

who dam cares how "most" pizza shops operate? Last time I ordered a pizza, which was a few years ago, it was delivered by a dude in his late 30's at least. I made a mental note of the contempt I found myself feeling about this grown man doing a childs job. That was pizza hut.

Yeah, I suppose they aint gonna send out too many 17 year old girls delivering pizzas.

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Reply #53 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

"Q. How are drivers paid?
You can be paid either per delivery or an hourly rate plus a per delivery fee. More specific information will be available at your interview." [/i]

Well, when you get that "specific information", let us all know what it is.

We're all dying to hear.

Anyway, good luck with the interview.

Again, typical greg. Always trying to belittle people when you get proven wrong.

I already know what that "specific information" is. Only 3 drivers will be on Method A at anyone time. Everyone else is automatically put on Method B. Therefore there are two payment systems, but you don't actually get to chose what one you want. It is subject to availability.

How do I know all this? I used to work for YUM. That's why I know you are full of shlt.

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Reply #54 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

who dam cares how "most" pizza shops operate? Last time I ordered a pizza, which was a few years ago, it was delivered by a dude in his late 30's at least. I made a mental note of the contempt I found myself feeling about this grown man doing a childs job. That was pizza hut.

Yeah, I suppose they aint gonna send out too many 17 year old girls delivering pizzas.

Undecided

That sounds sexist. Or agist. Or both.

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Reply #55 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:01pm

I was in hospital yesterday (minor heart scare, thank you) and was chatting to the cleaner - an Indian Fijian lady. She said that at home they might only make $80 a week but they could eat as well or better, and the community spirit was much, much stronger and people had more time for each other etc.

Here she and her (Australian) husband live in a frame house with corro walls - not much different from Fiji for many.

I also have a Chinese girlfriend, and she is about to get a 30% pay rise (don't tell my girlfriend here - I don't want to be seen as a gutter snake Cheesy

) - to cover the costs of living in China that I predicted would rise with industrialisation and then lead to the same social/economic malaises as the West is enduring now. She is lucky to get that, and is still keen to come here.

We of the West are declining (instead of reclining) due to the costs of just living in our own country - while the ROTW thinks we are all rich.

ADDS:- Damn you Dual Income Family Demand!

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Reply #56 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:06pm

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:52pm:

How do I know all this? I used to work for YUM. That's why I know you are full of shlt.

Well, that's quite funny actually: I deal with Yum (and other fast food companies), in a professional capacity, on a weekly basis.

And that's exactly how I know that Pizza Hut are certainly not "Almost all pizza delivery places".

All comes back to one thing:

Your statement - "Almost all pizza delivery places pay per delivery, not per hour" - is incorrect.

But, you knew that already.

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Reply #57 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:10pm

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

... wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

who dam cares how "most" pizza shops operate? Last time I ordered a pizza, which was a few years ago, it was delivered by a dude in his late 30's at least. I made a mental note of the contempt I found myself feeling about this grown man doing a childs job. That was pizza hut.

Yeah, I suppose they aint gonna send out too many 17 year old girls delivering pizzas.

Undecided

That sounds sexist. Or agist. Or both.

Yep.

And us the dirty-old-man pizza lovers suffer as a result.

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Reply #58 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:06pm:

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:52pm:

How do I know all this? I used to work for YUM. That's why I know you are full of shlt.

Well, that's quite funny actually: I deal with Yum (and other fast food companies), in a professional capacity, on a weekly basis.

And that's exactly how I know that Pizza Hut are certainly not "Almost all pizza delivery places".

All comes back to one thing:

Your statement - "Almost all pizza delivery places pay per delivery, not per hour" - is incorrect.

But, you knew that already.

Only on the assumption that Pizza Hut is the only place paying per delivery. You haven't proven they are the only ones doing it. For you to prove my statement incorrect, you will have to show that the vast majority of stores do not pay per delivery.

However, to prove you wrong, I don't need to find a list of places that pay only per delivery. I only needed to show one to prove you wrong;

Quote:

"Employees on Agreements are paid a weekly wage (subject to junior rates), plus a small fee for each delivery (though not always).

Those on the Modern Award are paid a weekly wage which is also subject to junior rates."

I have now proven that to be incorrect.This is because;

Pizza Huts website; http://www.pizzahut.com.au/work-with-us/career-faqs

"Q. How are drivers paid?
You can be paid either per delivery or an hourly rate plus a per delivery fee. More specific information will be available at your interview."

One pizza place (and a huge one at that) proves that you are wrong. Not all shops pay per hour. That does not mean they are the only shop operating on a per delivery system.

You are yet to show that they are the only ones paying per delivery and everyone else is paying per hour to prove my statement wrong.

Again, you are yet to prove me wrong on this. You just keep claiming victory even after your claims have been proven wrong.

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Reply #59 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

Quantum wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:19pm:

Again, you are yet to prove me wrong.

I've done it over and over again.

"Almost all pizza delivery places pay per delivery, not per hour" - is incorrect. Simple fact.

Now you're starting to behave like a child.

Anyway, as I said before, good luck with the interview.

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