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Federal government attacks independent contractors
Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:32pm
 

Paralysed in a tax office trap
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The Australian union movement has been quite open about its campaign to stamp out independent contractors wherever it can. Running parallel to this it’s instructive to see that the Australian Taxation Office has shifted to a decidedly anti-independent contractor stance over the last few years.  The outcome (intentional or not) is to aid the unions’ objectives.

Last week Robert Gottliebsen described the behaviour of one tax official as demonstrating a “blood lust in the tax office” toward small business people (Call off the small business attack dogs, April 19). This attitude goes deep because it’s entrenched in ATO’s administrative systems. Take this example.

Over about the last two years the ATO has started rejecting more applications by individuals to receive an Australian Business Number. The implications are significant because effectively, if you have no ABN you can’t be in business for yourself!

First, under new national business name registration rules if you don’t have an ABN you can’t register a business name. And it’s an offence to use a business name that isn’t registered.

Further, if you operate a business without an ABN anyone paying you is required to withhold 46.5 per cent of your payment and send this to the ATO. No-one can operate a small business under this cash denying arrangement.

In addition, without an ABN you’ll find it impossible to register under state workers compensation schemes and to receive other regulatory registrations and approvals. Also, submitting tenders for government or private sector work become impossible without an ABN.

By controlling to whom the ATO allocates ABNs, the government has massive big brother/sister type, master control of the make-up and structure of the Australian workforce and business. The works against the original intent of the ABN system, which was to give the ATO significant auditing capacity to detect non-declaration of incomes.

When the Australian Business Number system was established around 2000, the process intentionally gave an ABN to everyone who applied including individuals. The reasoning was that this supported tax compliance and auditing. The ATO can and does cross reference ABNs to bank account details and so on. This huge trawling of data enables, or should enable the ATO to check claimed business income against actual bank deposits and other transactions.

Over about the last few years this started to change. The ATO began to stop allocating ABNs to individuals. If someone’s a labourer for example, they now automatically have their ABN application rejected.

ABN applications can be done online through an ATO ‘decision making’ tool. The tool takes applicants through a series of questions to determine if the individual is an employee or contractor. As an applicant steps through questions, different answers trigger alternative additional questions. Eventually the tool will declare the applicant either an employee or contractor. If the declaration is ‘employee’ an ABN application is rejected.

More recently the ATO tool appears to have undergone fine ‘twigging’. It’s not noticeable to the casual observer but others familiar with the tool, differences are noticeable. Meanwhile, people applying as individuals are having difficulty obtaining an ABN. At Independent Contractors Australia we’ve been receiving a steady stream of information and complaints for around 9 months. People who want an ABN are being told ‘no’ on the basis of allegedly being an employee, according to the ATO.

In my view the legal basis for the ATO setting itself up as a God-like, online determiner of an individual’s employment status is highly questionable. The ABN legislation is clear that main objective of the ABN is to enable businesses to interact with the ATO for taxation purposes. The Act’s objectives do not include that an ABN is a determiner of employment or contractor status. It’s perhaps arguable that the way the ATO currently behaves is beyond its legislative authority.      

On a practical level the ATO is likely contributing to a growth of the black/cash economy and tax compliance headaches. The ATO automatically gives an ABN to individuals applying under a company, partnership or trust structure. Yet the ATO has tax compliance problems stopping illegal income splitting and tax avoidance with small companies and trusts.

And imagine the reaction of people who have their ABN application rejected? They either set up a sham company structure or operate in the cash economy, thus more easily avoid declaring their income.

On every measure the denial of ABNs works against the social and economic responsibilities of the ATO. Yet why is this happening? Look back to the objectives of the Australian union movement. Denying ABNs is a most effective way of using the power of government to suppress independent contracting.

Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/24/small-business-sme/paralysed-tax-office-trap#ixzz2RMNPmqDC
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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:39pm
 
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Denying ABNs is a most effective way of using the power of government to suppress independent contracting.


I dunno about the 'grand scheme of things,' but there are many people working as 'independant contractors' and as such are not entitled to (and not paid) the normal 'employee' benefits, who are in fact, employees.  The Boss Man is doing a pathetic and easily seen through shifty......you can call a wheelbarrow a shovel as often as you like, but it remains a wheelbarrow.

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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:40pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:39pm:
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Denying ABNs is a most effective way of using the power of government to suppress independent contracting.


I dunno about the 'grand scheme of things,' but there are many people working as 'independant contractors' and as such are not entitled to (and not paid) the normal 'employee' benefits, who are in fact, employees.  The Boss Man is doing a pathetic and easily seen through shifty......you can call a wheelbarrow a shovel as often as you like, but it remains a shovel.

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there are  criteria for determining that. this is a clear labor attack on contractors which are outside of the union sphere.
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there are  criteria for determining that. this is a clear labor attack on contractors which are outside of the union sphere.


I'd call it an attack on The Boss Man who is ripping off people by making them work for him as 'contractors' when in fact, they are employees.  The Boss Man thus avoids paying the people usual employee entitlements.

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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:49pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:47pm:
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there are  criteria for determining that. this is a clear labor attack on contractors which are outside of the union sphere.


I'd call it an attack on The Boss Man who is ripping off people by making them work for him as 'contractors' when in fact, they are employees.  The Boss Man thus avoids paying the people usual employee entitlements.

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because all contractors are like this??? do you really believe that? I was an independent contractor for 20 years. I was never like you describe and nor were any others I knew.
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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 7:59pm
 
Sssooo dodgy contractors are being knocked back for NBN's..big deal. The vast majority of small businesses and contractors are not effected by this clamp down at all.
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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:26pm
 
There are 3 parties mentioned in the article

(1) Workers
(2) Businesses
(3) Unions

The only ones who does not benefit from contracting are the unions

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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:33pm
 
Makka wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:26pm:
There are 3 parties mentioned in the article

(1) Workers
(2) Businesses
(3) Unions

The only ones who does not benefit from contracting are the unions



or the workers
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Reply #8 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:38pm
 
How many times do you hear of employees being sacked from their job only to be hired back as a contractor .... they get the same money, but this time they have no holidays, no sickies, no penalty rates, no workers comp, no allowances, no insurance no rights whatsoever .... if the contractors wants any of those things he has to pay his own. It doesn't take long for $50 000 to chissel away ... meanwhile the boss gets to keep all the extra profit.  A prime example is the telstra technicians ... many are supposed to be contractors, but they are not allowed to do any work other than for Telstra and there is no negotiation over the prices ..... what a scam.

About time the ATO cracked down on it.
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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:43pm
 
Makka wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 8:26pm:
There are 3 parties mentioned in the article

(1) Workers
(2) Businesses
(3) Unions

The only ones who does not benefit from contracting are the unions




And the employees forced out of full time paid employment, the trick is to use pretend contractors and this allows the employer to not provide the employee with the basic workplace rights like sick leave penalties proper pay rates etc. The contractor is most often the same person who previously a full time employee and was doing the same work at the same location in the same structure.
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Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2013 at 8:33am
 
adelcrow wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 7:59pm:
Sssooo dodgy contractors are being knocked back for NBN's..big deal. The vast majority of small businesses and contractors are not effected by this clamp down at all.


nothing to do with the NBN at all, dopey.
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Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2013 at 8:35am
 
most contractors are independent professionals or tradesmen working for a variety of companies.  grow a brain you jealous retards.
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longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 8:35am:
most contractors are independent professionals or tradesmen working for a variety of companies.  grow a brain you jealous retards.


and those are still being given an ABN ..... since you admit that not all independant contractors are genuine, you would have no problem accepting that there is an increase in the number ABN's the tax office rejects since they used to accept all applications  .... for all you know the number of rejections has one from 0% to 2 % ..  grow a brain you retard  ...
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Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:06am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 8:44am:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 8:35am:
most contractors are independent professionals or tradesmen working for a variety of companies.  grow a brain you jealous retards.


and those are still being given an ABN ..... since you admit that not all independant contractors are genuine, you would have no problem accepting that there is an increase in the number ABN's the tax office rejects since they used to accept all applications  .... for all you know the number of rejections has one from 0% to 2 % ..  grow a brain you retard  ...


read the article. MANY are being rejected for ABNs despite being valid contractors.
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Reply #14 - Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:12am
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2013 at 4:47pm:
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there are  criteria for determining that. this is a clear labor attack on contractors which are outside of the union sphere.


I'd call it an attack on The Boss Man who is ripping off people by making them work for him as 'contractors' when in fact, they are employees.  The Boss Man thus avoids paying the people usual employee entitlements.

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you can of course be right I am sure there are many like that... but not ALL surely?...it does sound union inspired..wouldnt they like to go back to the days where the unions did the hiring and firing..
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