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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #210 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:10pm hate to interrupt the party, but the rape fatwa is probably a fake: http://www.clarionproject.org/news/saudi-cleric-issues-fatwa-allowing-gang-rape-...
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Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page)
Reply #211 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:55pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

Question;

Which Western nation/government is going to be the first, to declare ISLAM a proscribed group ?

Dictionary;

proscribe = = forbid, especially by law. denounce or condemn.

Which member here is going to declare that your a stupid uneducated imbicile?

I declare it.

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Reply #212 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:58pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 2:10pm:

From the usual suspects.....

Should we start a Muslim quote of the week thread?

"Sheikh Muhammad al-'Arifi has issued a fatwa allowing women from throughout the Muslim World to travel to Syria and give up their bodies to rebel fighters as so to relieve their pent-up sexual frustration"

". al-'Arifi gave the theological thumbs-up to rape Syria's Muslim female population.

But rapists must first meet certain criteria:
•Rapists must not have had sex for at least two years.
•The actual rape itself should last no more than "a few hours in order to give each fighter a turn."
•Muslim females shouldn't resist due to the act of being raped "boosts the determination of the Mujahideen in Syria."
•Any Muslim woman is fair game provided she is "at least 14-years-old, widowed, or divorced."

Muslim cleric Sheikh Abu al-Dema al-Qasab declared in a fatwa:

“
... innovative and unprecedented way to execute martyrdom operations: place explosive capsules in your anus.

However, to undertake this jihadi approach you must agree to be sodomized for a while to widen your anus Shocked

so it can hold the explosives."

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-rules-for-the-rape-and-prostitution-jihad-re...

I honestly don't believe that rubbish.

Lets say the article is true, I strongly disagree with the cleric.

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Reply #213 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 4:01pm

shockresist wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

I honestly don't believe that rubbish.

Lets say the article is true, I strongly disagree with the cleric.

given that the other "fatwa" in the article has been exposed as a fake, my bet is on that being fake too.

Remember the Egyptian muslim-brotherhood necrophilia bill? Fake as well. So these people have form.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #214 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 4:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

shockresist wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

I honestly don't believe that rubbish.

Lets say the article is true, I strongly disagree with the cleric.

given that the other "fatwa" in the article has been exposed as a fake, my bet is on that being fake too.

Remember the Egyptian muslim-brotherhood necrophilia bill? Fake as well. So these people have form.

Fakeness is what they stand for.

Posting fake fatwas, fake statistics - they hate the truth because the truth does not suit their twisted agenda.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #215 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 4:19pm gandalf! You can smell blood in the water from 20 miles away! ALLAHU AKBAR!! And now True colours has arrived! It's a feeding frenzy!
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Reply #216 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:23pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Muslim cleric Sheikh Abu al-Dema al-Qasab declared in a fatwa:

“
... innovative and unprecedented way to execute martyrdom operations: place explosive capsules in your anus.

However, to undertake this jihadi approach you must agree to be sodomized for a while to widen your anus Shocked

so it can hold the explosives."

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-rules-for-the-rape-and-prostitution-jihad-re...

WHERE IS KARNAL WHEN WE NEED HIM ?

K,

Are you going to volunteer, so as to make the ultimate sacrifice, for your moslem brothers ?

You'd get a real 'bang' out of it.

Honest! Grin

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #217 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

hate to interrupt the party, but the rape fatwa is probably a fake:

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/saudi-cleric-issues-fatwa-allowing-gang-rape-...

FROM THE REPORT, AT THE LINK PROVIDED BY gandalf....

"[Updated] Cleric Denies Issuing Fatwa Allowing Gang Rape "

Oh well, if a moslem denies doing anything wrong, denies doing some behaviour which would bring ISLAM into disrepute, then we know, that of course, the moslem must be telling the truth. Tongue

e.g.

Quote:

Afghanistan mourns bomb victims

......President Karzai said about 35 people had been killed - most of them children, teachers and MPs - while the provincial governor told the BBC there had been 41 deaths.
......But our correspondent says many questions remain, including that of responsibility.
The Taleban have denied that they carried out the attack,
but they and al-Qaeda are the only ones known to use suicide bombs in Afghanistan so far.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7082481.stm

e.g. #2,

GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

THE EXACT SAME GOOD MOSLEM LATER SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - WHO HAVE BECOME AWARE OF HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENTS
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Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...
"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said. "We denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-w...

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #218 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Oh well, if a moslem denies doing anything wrong, denies doing some behaviour which would bring ISLAM into disrepute, then we know, that of course, the moslem must be telling the truth.

I initially thought that too Y. But the thing is, according to even the islamophobes that I linked, who originally reported the story, this guy is not known for being dishonest about these things. Any other time he has (presumably) felt embarassed about one of his fatwas, he merely retracts it.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #219 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:55pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

Oh well, if a moslem denies doing anything wrong, denies doing some behaviour which would bring ISLAM into disrepute, then we know, that of course, the moslem must be telling the truth.

I initially thought that too Y. But the thing is, according to even the islamophobes that I linked, who originally reported the story, this guy is not known for being dishonest about these things. Any other time he has (presumably) felt embarassed about one of his fatwas, he merely retracts it.

Nothing that a moslem says, no assurances that moslems make, can EVER be taken at face value.

If a moslem told me that that bright thing in the sky was the sun, i would seek a second opinion.

Moslems always use sophistry, or outright lies and deceit, whenever they communicate with non-moslems, about any aspect of ISLAM.

Moslems are their own worst enemies, in a dubious and cynical world.

The integrity and credibility of moslems has been ruined, [not by the criticism and scrutiny of infidels] but by the modus operandi [of deceit] of ISLAM/moslems themselves.i+++

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

google

Google;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;

we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

deception
A Study in Muslim Doctrine
by Raymond Ibrahim
November 18, 2009

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #220 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:39pm right you are Y. The fatwa is genuine - no more to discuss. Sorry I doubted you. google: catchy memes to satiate my thirst for anti-muslim bigotry.
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Reply #221 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:47pm

Taqiyya

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

Google;
"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives"
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Moslems are WICKED, WICKED, DECEITFUL people.

WICKED and DECEITFUL people ???

Please watch this YT...

Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims

goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

WICKED and DECEITFUL people....

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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Reply #223 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:53pm

Christian Crazies Kill Count

Scores killed in South Sudan
- 15 JULY 2013
http://allafrica.com/stories/201307160279.html

South Sudanese Government Kills Civilians Jonglei Province
- 20 JULY 2013
http://www.voanews.com/content/human-rights-watch-accuses-south-sudan-abuses-jonglei/1705700.html

Women & Children burned to death in Unity State South Sudan
- 23 JULY 2013
http://allafrica.com/stories/201307240284.html

Congolese rebels kill 44, rape 61
- 23 JULY 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/dr-congo-m23-rebels-kill_b_3640140.html

Mexico - Police chief kills mayor
- 24 JULY 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/mexican-small-town-mayor-killed-police-chief-19753136

Congolese Rebels Kill 401
- 24 JULY 2013
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/24/dr-congo-rebels-claim-400-troops-killed-in-fighting-flare-up/

22 Killed in Mexico Gunfight
- 25 JULY 2013
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-24/22-killed-in-western-mexico-shootout-in-test-for-pena-nieto.html

Congo army kills 5 civilians
- 25 July 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/congo-rebel-group-says-army-strikes-kill-civilians-165924361.html

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21872 A cat with a view	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #224 - Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:54pm True Colours wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 6:51pm: Fake Fatwas,Fake Statistics. The organ grinders monkey.
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