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Reply #330 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 9:54am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:36am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:03am:

The imams, gurus, teachers, and leadership at the Dee Why mosque should be taken into custody for passing on the message to their congregation that unsolicited groping, raping, butt-pinching, and breast-handling of perfect strangers is okay because it's only an expression of love and goodwill.

I agree.

Gandalf, are you promoting any kind of reforms or changes within the Muslim community?

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Reply #331 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:47am:

The decent Muslims have to suffer every time one of these throw-backs to Medieval times believes he has a licence to step outside the bounds of acceptable behaviour.

It has nothing to do with 'Medieval times', one could easily find examples of f wits existing in every time in every culture.

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Ariel Castro is sentenced for Cleveland abductions

...In her statement, Ms Knight told how their captor went to church every Sunday, before coming home to "torture" the women...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23534845

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #332 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:22am freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 9:54am: Gandalf, are you promoting any kind of reforms or changes within the Muslim community? I'm promoting a rather universal "don't be a douchebag" message.
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Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page)
Reply #333 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:27am

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:47am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:36am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:03am:

The imams, gurus, teachers, and leadership at the Dee Why mosque should be taken into custody for passing on the message to their congregation that unsolicited groping, raping, butt-pinching, and breast-handling of perfect strangers is okay because it's only an expression of love and goodwill.

I agree.

Kudos to you then.

The decent Muslims have to suffer every time one of these throw-backs to Medieval times believes he has a licence to step outside the bounds of acceptable behaviour.

'The decent Muslims have to suffer every time one of these throw-backs to Medieval times believes he has a licence to steps outside the bounds of acceptable behaviour of a Shria jurisdiction.'

When we allow 'rightly guided' moslems to come from a Sharia jurisdiction, to a non-moslem jurisdiction, the moslem brings his cultural mores rights with him.

Moslems consider their own social morality to be superior [to all other peoples], so the cultural behaviour/inclination of a moslem is 'proper' - wherever he is.

Remember, 'catmeat' ?

Remember, she "had no right to say no", "She was not covering her face or wearing any headscarf"

Remember, 'Aussie sl ut' ?

Separation from what is vile.

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Reply #334 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 12:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:22am:

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 9:54am:

Gandalf, are you promoting any kind of reforms or changes within the Muslim community?

I'm promoting a rather universal "don't be a douchebag" message.

So you are not encouraging Muslims to address the "serious issues" you see with Islam?

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #335 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 1:08pm True Colours wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 9:53am: This story doesn't seem to have anything to with Muslims though. Correct. But ... (To be Continued)
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Reply #336 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 1:13pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:47am:

The decent Muslims have to suffer every time one of these throw-backs to Medieval times believes he has a licence to step outside the bounds of acceptable behaviour.

It has nothing to do with 'Medieval times', one could easily find examples of f wits existing in every time in every culture.

I was making the point that some people will behave 'inappropriately' due to their cultural values being set in aspic since Medieval times ~ and then there are those who act 'inappropriately' due to nothing more than a deficit of character and emotional maturity.

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Ariel Castro is sentenced for Cleveland abductions

...In her statement, Ms Knight told how their captor went to church every Sunday, before coming home to "torture" the women...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23534845

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It was a long time ago that I abandoned the fiction that religious belief makes for a virtuous person. (Although it is true that some rascals have 'turned their life around' after 'finding Jesus').

In this Castro case it might have been a different story if he had been a Protestant. It's only Catholics who can turn up to Mass each week and have their sins forgiven ... and forgiven .... and forgiven ... Roll Eyes

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #337 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 4:28pm freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 12:52pm: So you are not encouraging Muslims to address the "serious issues" you see with Islam? You think the issue of not being a douchebag is not a serious one?
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Reply #338 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 4:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:22am:

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 9:54am:

Gandalf, are you promoting any kind of reforms or changes within the Muslim community?

I'm promoting a rather universal "don't be a douchebag" message.

Good man. I would finance your efforts if I was a Saudi prince. Cool

Better still ~ I'll finance you personally if you'll preach secularism to your congregation.

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Reply #339 - Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 5:17pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 4:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 12:52pm:

So you are not encouraging Muslims to address the "serious issues" you see with Islam?

You think the issue of not being a douchebag is not a serious one?

Sure. I just didn't realise you intended this as a reference to Islam.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #340 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 1:55pm Oh nooooooo.... ! gandalf ~ was it you who put this on my desk this morning? You know I don't want to read any more nasty stories about ... The Usual Suspects I can't handle the sheer volume of these news items from the West about more mischief from The Usual Suspects. Thank you in advance.
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Reply #341 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:13pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 8:47am:

The decent Muslims have to suffer every time one of these throw-backs to Medieval times believes he has a licence to step outside the bounds of acceptable behaviour.

It has nothing to do with 'Medieval times', one could easily find examples of f wits existing in every time in every culture.

Quote:

Ariel Castro is sentenced for Cleveland abductions

...In her statement, Ms Knight told how their captor went to church every Sunday, before coming home to "torture" the women...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23534845

Lets not forget the Nurse Roger dean who killed those nursing home residents said that he was possessed by God.

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Reply #342 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:38pm

shockresist wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Lets not forget the Nurse Roger dean who killed those nursing home residents said that he was possessed by God.

I watched the interview. He said he was possessed by the devil.

What you immigrant Muslims have yet to understand is that people in the West are nowhere near as saturated with religiosity as you people are.

'Sunday-morning Christians' comprise the vast majority of the English-speaking nations. Come Monday, and it's back to dog-eat-dog in the workplace.

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Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page)
Reply #343 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:51pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:38pm:

shockresist wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Lets not forget the Nurse Roger dean who killed those nursing home residents said that he was possessed by God.

I watched the interview. He said he was possessed by the devil.

What you immigrant Muslims have yet to understand is that people in the West are nowhere near as saturated with religiosity as you people are.

'Sunday-morning Christians' comprise the vast majority of the English-speaking nations. Come Monday, and it's back to dog-eat-dog in the workplace.

Why do you assume that majority of Muslims are any different, Herbie?

I suppose we could take Fred Nile as the typical Christian. Do you think that would be representative? Roll Eyes

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Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page)
Reply #344 - Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 5:01pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:38pm:

shockresist wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Lets not forget the Nurse Roger dean who killed those nursing home residents said that he was possessed by God.

I watched the interview. He said he was possessed by the devil.

What you immigrant Muslims have yet to understand is that people in the West are nowhere near as saturated with religiosity as you people are.

'Sunday-morning Christians' comprise the vast majority of the English-speaking nations. Come Monday, and it's back to dog-eat-dog in the workplace.

I was born here, get your facts right.

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