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Reply #420 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:32am

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

ISLAMIC law allows the rape of sex slaves.

Please just bring one verse from the Quran or a hadeeth that backs that claim up and we will know that you are not a liar.

TC,

Your persistent denials and your persistent refusal to acknowledge

that ISLAM gives moslem men a 'licence' to 'legally' rape women [women who are not moslems], does not negate what is apparent and true, to all rational persons;

TC,

I am happy for the persons who frequent these pages, on this forum, to judge between;
1/ your lies and denials,
2/ and the evidence i provide, to support my argument that 'ISLAM' is a criminal organisation, and that 'being' a moslem involves embracing a compact among a group of people [bound together by 'culture'] intent on committing violent criminal acts [by our laws] against those who do not belong to their 'camp'/culture.

Yadda wrote on Sep 1^st, 2009 at 9:16am:

FROM THE HADITH.....

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = describing some form of raiding party, where Mohammed, and his men, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what this means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust. This sounds like fornication to me. So why weren't Mohammed and his men stoned to death???

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, their moslem captors sought to sexually 'use', and shame, these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them. How honourable of these moslem men. /sarc off

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

FROM THE HADITH, END.

These [above] Hadith verses are cited, with references, here [in another thread],

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8

Q.
Which women does Allah allow moslem men to 'freely' have sex with ?

A.
Wives, and females slaves [i.e. captives, war booty].

"..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..."
Koran 4.22-24

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."
Koran 33.50

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she "had no right to say no", "She was not covering her face or wearing any headscarf"

Google;
Bilal rape victim was "aussie slut"

Google;
rape jihadi

IMAGE source.....
http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/

more links;

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/cronulla/

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Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page)
Reply #421 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:39am

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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ISLAMIC law allows the rape of sex slaves.

Please just bring one verse from the Quran or a hadeeth that backs that claim up and we will know that you are not a liar.

Sheikh Munajid quotes the relevant verses that allow a muslim man to rape his slave.

Quote:

Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman....

Here clicky this website is 100% Islamic and from your sect-www.islamqa.com/en/10382

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Reply #422 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:44am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Yeah sounds totally believable....NOT - Or perhaps that was one of the voices in your head that you heard.

Do you feel any shame when you type these lies?

whoa! Where did that come from??

It doesn't sound that unbelievable to me. I'm prepared to take someone at their word.

Someone arrives in a new country and the first thing that they say to the first person that they meet is "Wear scarf"? That would be on the mind of someone who is has just come to a new country? I have lived overseas before, I know what it is like to be new in a country, and I think that the story is unbelievable.

Let's just ask ourselves how Torpedo new that they were new to the country in the first place.

Sounds like bs to me.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #423 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:49am lol @ islamqa Oh by the way Baron, he says sex is permitted not rape.
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Reply #424 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:00pm

shockresist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:57am:

You obviously don't know what you talk about sometimes.

I Google only the best sources of information.

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For a small.. er .. 'consideration' ... I'll fax you the correct answers to the questions my Revolutionary Guards will be asking you Muslims to test your suitability for being allowed to remain in Australia.

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Reply #425 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:49am:

lol @ islamqa

Oh by the way Baron, he says sex is permitted not rape.

The sophistry [the form of words used] by moslems,

in their communications [with un-informed and ignorant infidels] is more important than revealing what is true about ISLAM.

That is it, isn't it gandalf ?

Hiding the truth, without 'lying'.

Oh, you moslems are so, so clever!!! Cheesy

.....NOT!

Dictionary;
sophistry = = the use of fallacious arguments, especially to deceive. a fallacious argument.i

Once again, gandalf,

YOU, are an infidel.

Why so ?

Because, even though the evidence of what ISLAM promotes in the world, is evident to you [and to every moslem], you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0
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Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar, YOU are the unbeliever.

You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God.

You muslims insist that ONLY muslims are the 'properly guided'.

Is he who is on a path of lies and deception, 'properly guided'??

AN EXPLANATION OF THE WORD 'KUFFAR'...

"kuffar" = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuffar

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Hey gandalf,

You may make fools of lots of 'infidels', but God knows who you are.

A Kafir.

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120

"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily [God] knoweth all that ye did;"
Koran 16.27

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21885 A cat with a view	Re: The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) Reply #426 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:00pm: shockresist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:57am: You obviously don't know what you talk about sometimes. I Google only the best sources of information. LOL !!
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Reply #427 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:04pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Torpedo wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

they were freshly arrived, somehow it was obvious, then one of them turned around looked at us with this evil grin, and stared like there was something wrong with us and she tried to hide detestation, but still couldn't resist in the end, and blurted out: wear scarf! - in her broken english

Yeah sounds totally believable....NOT - Or perhaps that was one of the voices in your head that you heard.

Do you feel any shame when you type these lies?

and I am fairly sure that you cannot tell who is newly arrived in this country just by looking at them.

I can tell, and if you are right, and they are not freshly arrived, then this is worse, we have a huge fekin problem, if some controlling young idiot thinks how I should be dressed, she should learn to speak english, and maybe some anatomy lessons, to understand that even some white infidel such as me is made from the same anatomical structure.
No, not me, you people should feel shame, YOU, who scream at people and call them racists unreasonably, you who constantly lie, it is in your book!

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Reply #428 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:08pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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ISLAMIC law allows the rape of sex slaves.

Please just bring one verse from the Quran or a hadeeth that backs that claim up and we will know that you are not a liar.

Sheikh Munajid quotes the relevant verses that allow a muslim man to rape his slave.

Quote:

Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman....

Here clicky this website is 100% Islamic and from your sect-www.islamqa.com/en/10382

I don't see the word 'rape' anywhere there. Do you? If you do I think that maybe you are hallucinating because I have read it twice and it is not there.

Once again, I'll ask, bring the verse from the Quran or hadeeth that says Muslims can rape. if you are not liars I am sure you can do this.

Quote:

But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until God enriches them from His bounty. And those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation] from among whom your right hands possess [slaves] - then give them a deed if you know there is within them goodness and enrich them from the wealth of God which He has given you. And do not force your slave girls into sexual service, if they desire chastity, thereby seeking the temporary interests of the worldly life...

- the Quran, an-Noor, v.33

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Reply #430 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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ISLAMIC law allows the rape of sex slaves.

Please just bring one verse from the Quran or a hadeeth that backs that claim up and we will know that you are not a liar.

Sheikh Munajid quotes the relevant verses that allow a muslim man to rape his slave.

Quote:

Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman....

Here clicky this website is 100% Islamic and from your sect-www.islamqa.com/en/10382

I don't see the word 'rape' anywhere there.

Do you? If you do I think that maybe you are hallucinating because I have read it twice and it is not there.

Once again, I'll ask, bring the verse from the Quran or hadeeth that says Muslims can rape. if you are not liars I am sure you can do this.

Quote:

But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until God enriches them from His bounty. And those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation] from among whom your right hands possess [slaves] - then give them a deed if you know there is within them goodness and enrich them from the wealth of God which He has given you. And do not force your slave girls into sexual service, if they desire chastity, thereby seeking the temporary interests of the worldly life...

- the Quran, an-Noor, v.33

Again, 'the form of words used by moslems' is what is important [.....to moslems].

Is RAPE permitted by ISLAMIC law ?

We must always REMEMBER this!.....

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery.....

The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously in a video broadcast online that she had been informed by some clerics that affluent Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants 'casting spells' on them, would be better to purchase women from an 'enslaved maid' agency for sexual purposes.

This is not religiously forbidden," she added, indicating that Caliph Haroun Al-Rashid (766-809 AD) was married to one woman but possessed 200 concubines.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1307539638/0#0
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/raymond-ibrahim-kuwaiti-female-activist-advoca...

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Reply #431 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

I don't see the word 'rape' anywhere there. Do you?

But its all sophistry innit?

Its ingenious - we can hide the truth without lying - don't you see?

But Yadda is on to us. Yadda knows all. He has the placard photos, and the jihadwatch links, and the large, bolded font. What chance do we have??

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Reply #432 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

I don't see the word 'rape' anywhere there. Do you?

But its all sophistry innit?

Its ingenious - we can hide the truth without lying - don't you see?

But Yadda is on to us. Yadda knows all. He has the placard photos, and the jihadwatch links, and the large, bolded font. What chance do we have??

Aren't you in the least bit embarrassed gandalf ?

When your lying denials and deceptions are exposed ?

Do moslems have any shame at all ?

Or is that response, just a reflection on your impotence to silence so many critics of ISLAM/moslems in this forum ?

Google;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;

Taqiyya and Kitman, islam

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There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

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Additional Notes:
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

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Reply #433 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:39pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

Do moslems have any shame at all ?

How foolish of me gandalf, to ask if moslems have any public shame.

How can moslems possibly have any public shame, when their Allah has declared,

that just by being moslems,

moslems are the most righteous of all men!!

Tongue

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

How can any moslem have any shame, when in the act of being a moslem, a moslem can always be certain that he is "enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah."

???

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Reply #434 - Aug 6^th, 2013 at 3:00pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

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ISLAMIC law allows the rape of sex slaves.

Please just bring one verse from the Quran or a hadeeth that backs that claim up and we will know that you are not a liar.

Sheikh Munajid quotes the relevant verses that allow a muslim man to rape his slave.

Quote:

Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman....

Here clicky this website is 100% Islamic and from your sect-www.islamqa.com/en/10382

I don't see the word 'rape' anywhere there. Do you? If you do I think that maybe you are hallucinating because I have read it twice and it is not there.

Once again, I'll ask, bring the verse from the Quran or hadeeth that says Muslims can rape. if you are not liars I am sure you can do this.

Quote:

But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until God enriches them from His bounty. And those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation] from among whom your right hands possess [slaves] - then give them a deed if you know there is within them goodness and enrich them from the wealth of God which He has given you. And do not force your slave girls into sexual service, if they desire chastity, thereby seeking the temporary interests of the worldly life...

- the Quran, an-Noor, v.33

So what is the arabic word for rape, is there one?
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The woman does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her.
(muslims say islam gave women rights, blind freddy can see profit mo took them away).
www.islamqa.com/en/33597

The good sheikh says it is Islamic to force a woman to have sex,he even says you can beat them if they refuse according to quran 4/34, the sheikh gives verses from quran and hadith.

Does an Noor v33 prohibit you from forcing your slave to work as a prostitute, where does it prohibit rape please enlighten us we are not stupid muslims with an IQ of less than 80
www.quran.com/24/33

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