Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:04pm:


Disservice to my cause?
Your the one who does a disservice to us aussies by posting old outdated rubbish.

You cant even answer my or true colors questions but you resort to kamal attaturk and international affairs to justify your outdated posts.

Karnal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:


You're very welcome, Karnal, and thank you for your kind patronage.

Myself and at least 50% of the population of the UK and Australia feel we are witnessing our homelands drifting inexorably towards an eventual ~ and official ~ confrontation with our Muslim communities.

In various parts of the world we are today witnessing Sunnis and Sh'ia murdering each other by the bomb-load.

If they can't tolerate living with each other, why should we believe either of these sects will tolerate their infidel hosts when they become strong enough to do some real damage?

Forgetting the Koran for the moment ~ Muslim societies are powder-kegs of violence the very moment the political opportunity presents itself.

Not only do we see this propensity for violence in Middle Eastern countries, but this culture has been transferred by Muslim migrants to France and Sweden in recent years ... with cars burning by the thousands, and whole town districts on fire like a tinder-box.

Stating it plainly, the Middle Eastern culture of Islamic saturation and obsession has mind-buggered you people back into the Stone Age.

Instead of our ignorant politicians sending billions overseas in Foreign Aid to people who hate our guts and our American allies, our government should halt any further Muslim immigration ~ and then start a concentrated course of de-programming you brainwashed Islamic automatons from the grip of your religious mania.

PS. I don't thing wally 1 is a Muslim, but a collaborator ~ what the Nazis called a 'hilfswillige'.

A 'willing helper' ... a collaborator. One who welcomes and assists the invaders.

They were strung up by the score at war's end by civilians and the various resistance movements.

We have quite a few of these 'hilfswillige' here on this forum board.

You see them quite a lot on discussion panels on TV too. It doesn't matter what horrors the Islamists perpetrate upon the Western public, these 'hilfswillige' will invariably play the role of apologist and America-blamer.

These people will be dealt with all in due time.

They will not be forgotten when the time arrives to reclaim homelands from the incompatible and culturally intransigent immigrant communities.

Karnal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:


I personally don't favour the punitive option for dealing with these traitors so long as they don't take up arms against us when the armed conflict begins.

I'd prefer they were sent to re-education gulags where they could have their errant attitudes gently massaged back to normalcy and good health.

Karnal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:


If over 50% of Britain and Australia's population are disenchanted with their Muslim demographic, then it's not such a stretch to assume that if hostilities were to break out against the Muslim communities ~ they would assist with the forcible deportation of these people.

I hope you're not trying to pretend that immigrant Muslims don't suffer from an appalling reputation amongst the Western mainstream?

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:


Thanks for clearing that one up, Herbie. Good use of research.

What you meant was if.

How could Muslims have an appalling reputation among the Western mainstream? There's a media blackout on. The leftist media won't tell us what's going on.

And when they do, they pretend bikie bosses are Lebs when they're really Aussies.

Imagine what the media would report if they were willing to REALLY discuss the elephant in the room.

I'd say that civil war against the Muslim communities and their deplorable hilfwilligen would be on, wouldn't you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:36pm:


Er, Herbie, that's the leftist media. They're part of the problem. Why didn't you quote the actual cables you've cited?

I'd love to hear what sort of statistics capture religious data on "the most likely group to be unavailable for work or not actively seeking employment due to illness, their studies or family commitments".

How would you measure that? Who would measure that?

Not the hilfwilligen, I hope?

Kindly remove your leftist Daily Mail propaganda from this site, Herbie. We won't have that hilfwilligen nonsense on a civilized board, thanks.

50% of us want civil war.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 3:33pm:


If you think im a collaborator cause I don't fear terrorism then so be it.

Maybe you should read this article Herbert,



Steve Watson
June 29, 2012

An independent review of terrorism legislation in the UK notes that government rhetoric regarding terrorism is “exaggerated for political or commercial purposes” and that many more people are killed each year by bee stings.

The report by barrister David Anderson QC, highlights the fact that the average number of annual deaths as a result of terrorism or at the hands of terrorists in the UK this century is just five.

“During the 21st century, terrorism has been an insignificant cause of mortality in the United Kingdom.” Anderson writes.

“The annualised average of five deaths caused by terrorism in England and Wales over this period compares with total accidental deaths in 2010 of 17,201, including 123 cyclists killed in traffic accidents, 102 personnel killed in Afghanistan, 29 people drowned in the bathtub and five killed by stings from hornets, wasps and bees.”

Anderson also points out that not a single person in Britain has even been injured by a terrorist for over two years.

The report notes that in the year to March 2011, arrests of individuals suspected of being terrorists numbered just 141, the lowest figure since 2001/2. In addition there was only one conviction in a UK court on charges related to terrorism.

“Those figures compare with a total number of arrests for recorded crime in England and Wales alone of almost 1.4 million in 2010/11, including some 431,000 for offences of violence against the person, 37,000 for sexual offences, 34,000 for robbery and 93,000 for burglary.” the report notes.

The report suggests that the threat from terrorism is hugely over exaggerated and that draconian terrorism related laws should be reassessed.

“Terrorists are first and foremost criminals. Where possible and as a general rule, they should be prosecuted under the ordinary criminal law, to underline the fact that no special laws are necessary for the purpose and to prevent them from glamorising or politicising their offences…” the report states.

“The values of a liberal democracy deserve support from laws against terrorism, but the same values require that those laws be subject to strict scrutiny.” Anderson writes.

The report comes in the same week as a rare keynote speech by MI5 head Jonathan Evans in which he stated that the ‘Arab Spring’ could radicalize British muslims and breed new terrorists, that a dirty bomb attack in the UK was a realistic possibility, that Iranian sponsored terror was a significant threat, and that economic hardship could see the rise of more “lone wolf” terrorists in the vein of Anders Breivik.

As we have previously noted, statistics show that m

That's right, Herbie. If.

I do hope you genuinely believe that. We won't have any questionable statistics here.

wally1 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:



Oooohhh.. 2 years. Well, obviously nuffin' to see here then. Then a beheading in the name of Islam in London.
Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.