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Reply #510 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:33pm
 
wally1 wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
If you think im a collaborator cause I don't fear terrorism then so be it.


I think you're a Willing Helper because at heart you see the Muslims as a lot more frightening than people like me.

And you don't fear terrorism despite 23 Muslims sitting in our jails who were apprehended before they could unleash mass-murder upon an innocent public?

That's as close to a confession of suicidal stupidity as I've heard in a long time.

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" We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. "


You would do well to remember that, and to say a silent prayer that on 23 occasions your arse has been saved by a police force that does fear terrorism.

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" Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. "


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" Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me. "


George Orwell.




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Reply #511 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:16pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:33pm:
wally1 wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 5:37pm:
If you think im a collaborator cause I don't fear terrorism then so be it.


I think you're a Willing Helper because at heart you see the Muslims as a lot more frightening than people like me.

And you don't fear terrorism despite 23 Muslims sitting in our jails who were apprehended before they could unleash mass-murder upon an innocent public?

That's as close to a confession of suicidal stupidity as I've heard in a long time.

Quote:
" We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. "


You would do well to remember that, and to say a silent prayer that on 23 occasions your arse has been saved by a police force that does fear terrorism.

Quote:
" Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. "


Quote:
" Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me. "


George Orwell.






Its obvious that you have no qualms with islam.

That's why your on a board which promotes muslima.com
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Reply #512 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:22pm
 
23 Muslims sitting in our jails?

Now you’re watering the statistics down, Herbie. There’s heaps more than that.

Would you mind sourcing that second Orwell quote about pacifism? I’d love to know where it’s from.
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Reply #513 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:28pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
Would you mind sourcing that second Orwell quote about pacifism? I’d love to know where it’s from.

George Orwell: ‘Pacifism and the War’ Partisan Review, London, August-September 1942.


He goes on:
The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security. Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with. In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism.
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Reply #514 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:33pm:
And you don't fear terrorism despite 23 Muslims sitting in our jails who were apprehended before they could unleash mass-murder


Nevermind that nearly all the 23 Muslims you speak of were convicted on fairly flimsy evidence that a jury wouldn't accept without the Howard government's fear-mongering.

Terror case judge accused of bias



How does that 23 compare to the 10,000 Catholic members of the IRA in the UK who killed 1800 people - 800 of them civilians?

In the 1980's an Irish catholic citizen of the UK was something like 50  times more likely to be a terrorist than today's Australian Muslim.

You are talking about a tiny insignificant fringe - something like 0.01% of Muslims in Australia.

Do you judge a community by the 0.01% (who, by the way, never actually hurt anyone)?

You thrive on fear and hate Herbert. You are the threat to Australia.i





Herbert what happens to your selective fear and hatred when it comes to the actual terror attacks and mass murders that were carried out in this country by Anglo-Saxons and Christians which I posted about earlier?



True Colours wrote on Aug 27th, 2013 at 11:13pm:
Herbert you do realise that every terrorist attack carried out by Australian citizens was carried out by white Anglo-Saxons don't you?

From the attempted hijacking of Qantas flight 1737, to the Hilton Hotel bombing, to the Russell St bombing, to the Walsh Street assassinations - all carried out by white Anglo-Saxons.

Port Arthur, Hoddle Street, Snowtown, Central Coast, Strathfield, Milperra,  Hope Forest and Coniston massacres were all carried out by white Anglo-Saxons.

The mass muders at Queen St and Belanglo Forest were carried out by people of European descent.

The attempted hijcaking of Qantas Flight 1737, and the massacre at  Quakers Hill nursing home were carried out by regular church goers.

Now who should we look at with suspicion?
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Reply #515 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 12:36am
 
Soren wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
Would you mind sourcing that second Orwell quote about pacifism? I’d love to know where it’s from.

George Orwell: ‘Pacifism and the War’ Partisan Review, London, August-September 1942.


He goes on:
The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security. Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with. In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism.


Thanks, old chap. Excellent quote. I do believe Orwell was the best essayist of the 20th century, don’t you?

Of course, his words resonate most with those who’ve actually fought in the theatre of war. Be it against Fascists in Spain or 3RAR officers and military police in Nam, all soldiers share a respect for life that comes from an intimate acquaintance with death.

Look that one up, son. Karnal Review, Australia, August, 2013.
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Reply #516 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 7:32am
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
How does that 23 compare to the 10,000 Catholic members of the IRA in the UK who killed 1800 people - 800 of them civilians?


Now you're resorting to false analogies again.

The Irish were terrorists on behalf of unifying Ireland by getting the British out of its 6 northern provinces.

Our 23 'Australian' terrorists were planning mass-murder on behalf of .... ?

Their Australian homeland?

Their country-of-origin?

It was none of the above.

I think it's an unbelievable obscenity that these 23 'Australian' traitors who actively planned to kill Australians, were not sentenced to a military firing squad.

I was alive during WWII ~ and I find it bizarre and disgusting that so many good people gave their lives not knowing that their sacrifices would eventually see pathetic and feeble laws allowing the worst of their country's enemies being given only custodial sentences WITH parole, instead of a firing squad.

I personally sh*t on the politicians, the judiciary, the law-makers, and the Leftwing academics whose limp-wristed ideology has allowed 23 smirking 'Australians' to troop off to jail with not a worry in the world but the comfort of knowing they'll eventually be released back onto the streets with plenty of good living time remaining to them.

True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
In the 1980's an Irish catholic citizen of the UK was something like 50  times more likely to be a terrorist than today's Australian Muslim.


See the above. Look at a map of Ireland, and ask yourself if it's not too unreasonable for the Irish to want British colonialism out of the northern provinces.

Several years ago during the height of The Troubles in Northern Ireland, a poll was taken in Britain.

83% of the ordinary English citizens polled as being in sympathy with the Irish wanting to reclaim the whole of the geographic island for themselves.

True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
You are talking about a tiny insignificant fringe - something like 0.01% of Muslims in Australia.


I wish that were so, but polling in the UK reveals time and again that around 30% of the Muslim population agree with violence on behalf of Islam.

Only just this last week we saw (quote) "Hundreds" on the streets of Sydney angrily protesting that mentalities like our 23 in jail were evicted from government in Egypt.

What would this suggest if not that these 'hundreds' are sympathetic to the 23 now languishing our jails?

True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
Do you judge a community by the 0.01% ...


When the source and the authority for these intended violent actions are shared by the entire Muslim community ~ then it's a no-brainer that our entire Muslim community should be interned as possible 5th columnists if a war should break out between us and Islamic Indonesia.

Muslims cannot be trusted with our safety. The Brits know this only too well.

And with this 23 in jail, we now know it too.

I've suggested it before: You Muslims must swear allegiance to a different kind of Islam ~ an updated and upgraded Islam that is compatible with Western concepts of secularism in which religion is relegated to the occasional ceremony.

True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
You thrive on fear and hate Herbert. You are the threat to Australia.


Everything I say is linked to news items from across the world which give warning of what is yet to come.

I am living in a country of my own generational people whose hard-won heritage goes back centuries.

You, on the other hand, are a recent arrival from a cultural background vastly different to that of my own, and whose beliefs and social values are inimical and hostile to those of my people.

That you disagree with what I say, is evidence in itself that you have no loyalty for protecting Christian Australia against the incursions of Islam and your fellow Muslims.

True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
Herbert what happens to your selective fear and hatred when it comes to the actual terror attacks and mass murders that were carried out in this country by Anglo-Saxons and Christians which I posted about earlier?


But we're not discussing history, are we? And within 40 years of the Brits first landing in Australia they were being hanged by the authorities for killing Abos. Tell me of any other colonial power that had the death penalty for killing a native?

We're talking about the present day, not history.
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Reply #517 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 8:06am
 
0.01% of the Muslim community ... ?

True Colours ~ does this look like "0.01%" of the Muslim community?

Why are these 'Swedish' Muslims raging against these 'Swedish' Jews?

What do these 'Swedish' Muslims have to do with Palestine? What's the connection?

Do you see the problem?

Do you understand why immigrant Muslims and their offspring can't be trusted by the locals?

Do you understand why 53% of Brits voted in a poll that Muslims in the UK are nothing but a pain in the arse?





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Reply #518 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:00am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 9:07am:
Yadda wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 8:21am:
WATCH THIS DELICIOUSLY FUNNY YT [below].
IT MAKES FUN OF THE 'POLITICALLY CORRECT' CROWD, AND RIDICULES THE CREDIBILITY OF 'TERRORISM EXPERTS'.


Refusing to Name the Enemy in the War on Terror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpM8qk3t52A




Sydney columnists have been making this point all week. Piers Ackerman, Tim Blair, Miranda Devine, Andrew Bolt, et al.





That's not possible, Herbie. The leftard media refuses to discuss the elephant in the room.

Kindly post things that you genuinely believe in future.
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Reply #519 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:34am
 
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How does that 23 compare to the 10,000 Catholic members of the IRA in the UK who killed 1800 people - 800 of them civilians?


Muslims can and do kill that many in a single attack. That's the threat we are dealing with. Even by the standards of terrorists Muslims have set a new low. Not just slightly lower, but a whole new ballgame. Do you see some kind of different comparison?
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Reply #520 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 12:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:34am:
Muslims can and do kill that many in a single attack.


Wasn't Muslims who nuked Hirsoshima and Nagasaki. Takes real psychotic sociopaths to get to that level.

Christians, as history has regularly proven, are the real dangerous nutters bombing and killing recklesy across the world.

Even today Christians will justify nuking civilians. Sick!

Christians need to make a stand this slaughter of civilians.


Fact: Catholic terrorists in the UK killed more than 30 times more people than Muslim terrorists ever did.

Fact: In the last 50 years in Australia, dozens of terrorist attacks and mass murders  have been carried out by white non-Muslims in Australia - hundreds killed - while no terror attacks have been killed by Muslims.
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Reply #521 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 3:43pm
 
Sadly, True Colours, none of what you say detracts from the fact that Muslims are now the bane of every Western country that has taken them in since WWII.

Just like the Jews of the diaspora who eventually returned to Israel ~ you too will be returned to the Middle East from whence you came.

This is our country ~ not your country.

Oil and water don't mix.

Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'

Last week, Horst Seehofer, the premier of Bavaria and a member of the Christian Social Union – part of Merkel's ruling coalition – called for a halt to Turkish and Arabic immigration.

One recent poll showed one-third of Germans believed the country was "overrun by foreigners".

It also found 55% of Germans believed that Arabs are "unpleasant people", compared with the 44% who held the opinion seven years ago.


Matters are slowly but surely drifting towards the time when politicians will campaign for re-election upon the issue of mainstream discontent with the Muslim community.

Western Muslims should now invent a new sect that is clearly and unequivocally pro-Western.








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Reply #522 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 4:02pm
 
True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
How does that 23 compare to the 10,000 Catholic members of the IRA in the UK who killed 1800 people - 800 of them civilians?



Only 1800 deaths from the IRA, perhaps Libya should have supplied them with more weapons, how does that compare to muslims?

We have over 100,000 killed in the sectarian violence from rival muslim sects in Syria which is far more recent.
The father of the current Prseident whacked over 20,000 muslims about 30 years ago.

We have over 10,000 killed in Pakistan in the last decade from Islamic terror.

Bombs between sunni vs shia go off on a daily basis in Iraq, the numbers of dead are still climbing.

Do we have all this security at airports because of the catholics or the muslims?



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Reply #523 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 5:33pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 4:02pm:
True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:35pm:
How does that 23 compare to the 10,000 Catholic members of the IRA in the UK who killed 1800 people - 800 of them civilians?



Only 1800 deaths from the IRA, perhaps Libya should have supplied them with more weapons, how does that compare to muslims?

We have over 100,000 killed in the sectarian violence from rival muslim sects in Syria which is far more recent.
The father of the current Prseident whacked over 20,000 muslims about 30 years ago.

We have over 10,000 killed in Pakistan in the last decade from Islamic terror.

Bombs between sunni vs shia go off on a daily basis in Iraq, the numbers of dead are still climbing.

Do we have all this security at airports because of the catholics or the muslims?






Do you understand what a civil war is?


US Civil War = bloodiest war in US history; about 3/4 of a million kllled!
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Reply #524 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 6:59pm
 
US civil war - not about religion, lasted 4 years, issues resolved. Peace..

Thirty Years' War - about religion and sovereignty, 30 years, religious issues between Catholics and Protestants resolved, no more religious wars in Europe. (Last religious war on the British Isles around the same time) Religious tolerance throughout the West

Muslim civil war - 1400 year, nothing's resolved.  Perpetual killings in the name of Islam. Islam has had the longest religious war. Ongoing wherever Islam exists.
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