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The Usual Suspects ~ (copyright Nicole Page) (Read 138828 times)
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Reply #615 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Everything we have today is due to the ancient Greeks

They gave us Democracy,


Wrong.

That's another myth much beloved of the neurotically self-nullifying Leftwing tragics.

The black and white pebble voting system was confined to only the very few who owned a certain size of real estate. The 95% hoi polloi had no democratic right to vote.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Science


Most of it, including Algebra ~ was pinched from the Turks, who pinched it from the Arabs.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Philosophy, Art, Theatre,


A lot of this was pinched from the Italians. 

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
medicine, poetry, sporting excellence, engineering, architecture, linguistics, comedy, justice, the legal system, surgery, enlightenment, psychology, etc etc etc


You've been drinking too much Ouzo, but I like your Take-one-Take-all attitude.  Grin No doubt the Americans owe it to this ancient nation of paedophile buggerists their landing on the moon.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
everything Greek


So what happened ... ? How did this Atlantis in the Mediterranean become a goats-and-shepherds backwater cesspit for the past 2000 years?

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Event he worlds first Computer was built by the ancient Greeks


These were useless for anything other than toys for the amusement of guests in rich houses.

The Ancient Incas invented the wheel as a toy for their children, but never realised its transportation potential if made large and attached to a platform.

Between the Jews, the Germans, the British, and the Americans ~ almost everything you see around you in our comfortable 21st century Western world came from their endeavours.


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Reply #616 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:03pm
 
Einstein understands
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Reply #617 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:04pm
 
Herbert.

Even Einstein understood where almost everything originated from - and that was the Greeks
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Reply #618 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:07pm
 
There was a global survey conducted about 8 years ago.

Over 115 nations involved, with almost 7 million people surveyed. They were asked many questions on differing topics and themes

The most respected and admired people were the Greeks

The most important contributions to western society were by the ancient Greeks

You cant argue with that

Even Einstein agrees that he would rather be reading the works of the ancient Greeks than studying physics

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Reply #619 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:11pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 1:29pm:
...I admire excellence and human endeavour wherever and whenever it occurs.

I don't need to racially vilify specific groups, whether national, ethnic or religious in order to make some trivial point


I'm happy to acknowledge foreign nationalities as the inventors of what I enjoy today by way of our Western civilisation, but there is a type of person who will bend over backwards NOT to credit the British or the Americans for their contributions.

I've worked with them.

Greeks by the dozen who would loudly describe the British and the Anglo-Australians in the most insulting of terms ... while ignoring the fact they had crossed oceans to leave their beloved homeland to make a better life for themselves in this society that has fashioned itself after the British model.

Spiteful ingrates. The progeny of a country once uniquely infamous for its pandemic paedophilia, pederasty, buggery, and gay bath-houses.


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Reply #620 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:18pm
 
My top 7 from a purely non bias point of view are

1. Ancient Hellenic enlightenment period
2. German epoch (around 1850 - )
3. Chinese (ancient - to post medieval periods)
4. Italian Renaissance
5. English and French enlightenment periods
6. Arabic contributions when the west plunged into the dark ages
7. Modern US and Soviet advances
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Reply #621 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:28pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
There was a global survey conducted about 8 years ago.

Over 115 nations involved, with almost 7 million people surveyed. They were asked many questions on differing topics and themes

The most respected and admired people were the Greeks

The most important contributions to western society were by the ancient Greeks

You cant argue with that


I most certainly can.

Public Schools are dominated by leftwing teachers AND the socialist-majority bureaucratic 'educators' who formulate the national curricula.

They are politically motivated to trash-and-vandalise the achievements of the English-speaking countries as part of the process of 'marching through the institutions' in order to defeat capitalism and the "Unfair advantage" the West enjoys in relation to the Third World.

Socialists will never credit a capitalist First World nation with having done anything good.

Greece is a basket-case today because it failed to pattern itself after the British model.

Germany's Angela Merkel and the British Prime Minister are tired of having to constantly finance Greece out of the cesspit that it keeps falling into.

Greek unions and the culture of civil servants is what has brought Greece to the Soup Kitchen now financed by Britain and Germany.






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Reply #622 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:30pm
 
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even the Delphi Oracle sings to you from almost 3000 years ago

"Gnothi se auton"

KNOW THYSELF

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Reply #623 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:32pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:04pm:
Herbert.

Even Einstein understood where almost everything originated from - and that was the Greeks


It was all Italian.

It was the Italians who were hired by the Greeks to build their aqueducts and the Parthenon.
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Reply #624 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:33pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:28pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
There was a global survey conducted about 8 years ago.

Over 115 nations involved, with almost 7 million people surveyed. They were asked many questions on differing topics and themes

The most respected and admired people were the Greeks

The most important contributions to western society were by the ancient Greeks

You cant argue with that


Public Schools are dominated by leftwing teachers AND the socialist-majority bureaucratic 'educators' who formulate the national curricula.






Karl Marx was Jewish - why are you complaining?

So were Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky

the bastions of socialism

Herbert,

When you take credit and marvel at the achievements of Einstein you must also recognise the monster of Frankenstein
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Reply #625 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:37pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:32pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:04pm:
Herbert.

Even Einstein understood where almost everything originated from - and that was the Greeks


It was all Italian.

It was the Italians who were hired by the Greeks to build their aqueducts and the Parthenon.


everything is Greek - the height of civilisation was the ancient Hellenic enlightenment periods

Undeniable fact

Einstein understood this fact

he should know

You aren't contradicting the great Albert Einstein are you?
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Reply #626 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:39pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:30pm:
Herbert

even the Delphi Oracle sings to you from almost 3000 years ago

"Gnothi se auton"

KNOW THYSELF



Sorry, Janis, but again, that was pinched from the Italians.

"Conosci te stesso"

'Know Thyself'.

Look, I'm happy to admit that the Greeks invented souvlakis, gyros, and ouzo when they could find time to be away from their gay bathhouses (which wasn't very often).



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Reply #627 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:45pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:33pm:
Karl Marx was Jewish - why are you complaining?

So were Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky

the bastions of socialism

Herbert,

When you take credit and marvel at the achievements of Einstein you must also recognise the monster of Frankenstein


Neither Karl Marx nor Iosif Vissarionovich were Jewish.

Karl Marx was raised a Lutheran, his father having converted before his birth.  He was baptised a Lutheran.

Iosif Vissarionovich was born to Christian parents, baptised and raised a Christian, even attending a Christian seminary before becoming a revolutionary.

You do seem to be having with your claims Chimp_Logic...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #628 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:47pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:39pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:30pm:
Herbert

even the Delphi Oracle sings to you from almost 3000 years ago

"Gnothi se auton"

KNOW THYSELF



Sorry, Janis, but again, that was pinched from the Italians.

"Conosci te stesso"

'Know Thyself'.

Look, I'm happy to admit that the Greeks invented souvlakis, gyros, and ouzo when they could find time to be away from their gay bathhouses (which wasn't very often).





Everything of significance in the West is extracted directly from the ancient Hellenic enlightenment period

This is the first time I have encountered a person with such hatred of what the ancient Greeks achieved and contributed.

You must really be envious and resentful of the truth of the evolution of human development and civilisation

I doubt whether you can find peer reviewed scientific and academic literature that supports your rhetoric and spiteful dogma

All I can say is that your comments in here merely vindicate what I have been saying.

good luck!

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Reply #629 - Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:48pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 27th, 2013 at 2:37pm:
everything is Greek - the height of civilisation was the ancient Hellenic enlightenment periods.

At some time every country in the past was the 'height of civilisation' ~ even though by today's standards they were poor in almost every way.

Even Genghis Khan was a trailblazer for 'civilisation' in his day.

[quote author=Chimp_Logic link=1366856138/625#625 date=1382848647]Einstein understood this fact

he should know

You aren't contradicting the great Albert Einstein are you?


The sad thing about Einstein (bless him) was that once his attention was taken away from his particular forte ~ he was virtually an imbecile with every thing he said.

Journalists used to interview him about everything but his own subject, and the poor fellow would be floundering about in a panic to know what to say.

I won't say he was an idiot savant, but all too often he would be prompted to opine on subjects of which he had no knowledge.

It was Italian contractors who built the Parthenon, Hristo. They were the ones who invented cement and concrete.
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