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Reply #75 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:02pm
 
'Aussie' ~ due to your recent smart-arse communications with me I will not be answering your posts in future.
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Reply #76 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:15pm
 
For around 8.5 years the Boston Muslim brothers were dormant sleepers in American society ... and then someone pushed their button and activated them to lethal effect.

Why should Australia tolerate bringing in Muslims who have the very real potential to be coached into believing they have a religious duty to kill, maim, and blow off the legs of infidels?

It's actually clinically and certifiably insane that our politicians are still embarked upon bringing in thousands of Muslims each year for the foreseeable future.

20 of these monsters are currently in our jails ~ and their one common denominating feature is that they are all devoted to the literal word of Islam.

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Imagine a Muslim country having a Christian immigration and refugees program while at the same time having 20 would-be mass-murdering Christians languishing in jail ... and a huge government budget to finance a secret police agency to seek out and apprehend dodgy Christians before they go troppo with AK 47s and pressure-cooker bombs.

They would be the laughing stock of the world. A pathetic joke for being in such denial of the obvious.

Any government entertaining such ludicrous nonsense would be declared officially insane for conducting a program of such immigrant madness.
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Reply #77 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:26pm
 
I don't need to read between lines.  Herbert, the Muslim basher posted this:

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Are you sure you're not resorting to gross exaggeration here as an all-embracing blunderbuss buck-shot strategy for avoiding having to answer the specifics of what the anti-Muslims say about the inadvisability of Australia conducting a Muslim immigration program?


Quite clearly, that refers to all Muslims, at large without exception.

His Cheer Leader, Nicole, outright supports him, and you, Lionel, are trying to hide your support with pedantry.

Bugger off with your bigotry, the three of ye. 

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Reply #78 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:31pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
'Aussie' ~ due to your recent smart-arse communications with me I will not be answering your posts in future. 


Typical of one, who when confronted with his crap, runs away from his adversary.  You are a bigot Herbert, and I'm calling you on it. 

How's Joan Baez performing on that Titanic, you bloody unapologetic liar?

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Reply #79 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:33pm
 
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Bugger off with your bigotry, the three of ye.


Actually, with the exception of your presence, I'm settling in quite nicely here Aussie.

I might just stick around.

Oh and by the way, just labelling someone a 'bigot' doesn't constitute 'debate'. You're casting pearls before swine, Lionel and Herbert.
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Reply #80 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 5:56pm:
Are you sure you're not resorting to gross exaggeration here as an all-embracing blunderbuss buck-shot strategy for avoiding having to answer the specifics of what the anti-Muslims say about the inadvisability of Australia conducting a Muslim immigration program?


Do you honestly believe that there's the slightest possibility of some future government legislating for an anti-Muslim program? Gone is the White Australia policy of yesteryear where those who were different were classified as fauna. Multiculturalism - and that includes Muslims,  is well established now and it's too late to do a thing about it.

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Does it not tell you something that so far 20 Muslims have been locked up in maximum security prisons before they had a chance to gun-down soldiers at Holsworthy Army base, and set off bombs with the intention of creating mass murder upon Australian citizens?


We have a lot of nutcases in our prisons - and yes, there are extremist Muslims here who hate us. That's why we have the ME crime squad and those 20 Muslims are locked up.

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Is there a message there for our future immigration and refugees policy?


Immigration is now more important than the wishes of Australian citizens. There is a world order we are part of which determines our future population growth and unfortunately both Labor and the Coalition are compliant with the Conventions.

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Do you have a Loved One in Australia who could fall victim to a Muslim bomb?


A couple of years ago my adult son was beaten up by a group of caucasian teenagers for no other reason than they were bored. This is a common occurrence as you would know if you lived in NSW. We have a greater chance of being beaten up/killed and robbed by our own kind.

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Is it first necessary for you to have personal experience of deadly jihad before changing your mind from your current benign attitude to one of realising the Enemy has been allowed to take up residence within our own homeland society like rats in a silo?


There is a part of us which rejects what we don't understand and I have my prejudices, but I'm not going to allow them to anger me especially as it's obvious nothing will ever be done about it.

Future generations of Australians will not think like us as they will have grown up in a different social environment altogether.


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Reply #81 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:44pm
 
Nicole Page wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:33pm:
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Bugger off with your bigotry, the three of ye.


Actually, with the exception of your presence, I'm settling in quite nicely here Aussie.

I might just stick around.

Oh and by the way, just labelling someone a 'bigot' doesn't constitute 'debate'. You're casting pearls before swine, Lionel and Herbert.


I actually hope all of ye hang around so that your bigotry becomes much better known.
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Reply #82 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Do you honestly believe that there's the slightest possibility of some future government legislating for an anti-Muslim program?


Absolutely. If not a moratorium on further Muslim immigration, then a greatly reduced influx of them.

The NSW Christian Democrat leader who is also the Assistant President of the Legislative Council ~ The Rev Fred Nile ~ went to an election on the platform of stopping any further Muslim immigration for at least 10 years.

He was not ostracised from the political community for having suggested this.

There are a whole swathe of Radio Talkback hosts just in Sydney alone who for years have been advocating for Australia to stop ... Quote: "importing its enemies under the aegis of Political Correctness".

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Gone is the White Australia policy of yesteryear where those who were different were classified as fauna.


Grin Are you quite sure you're not off with the pixies again with this remark?

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Multiculturalism - and that includes Muslims, is well established now and it's too late to do a thing about it.


Not at all.

Overnight a new policy of assimilation could easily and rightly be introduced into our schools whereby our second, third, and fourth generation immigrant ethnics are no longer encouraged to 'celebrate' their Chinese / Indian / Greek / Pacific Islander / etc etc de facto foreign national identities... 30 - 40 - 50 years after their great grandparents arrived here.

There's benign multiculturalism and then there's the multiculturalism that is toxic and undermining of Australia's democratic and free cultural heritage.

As a female you should be WAY more appalled than me at the steady encroachment of Islamic values in Australian society, with Sharia Law ensuring that the sisterhood gets treated like chattels and second class citizens with the full knowledge of the gutless bastards who populate our political class.



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Reply #83 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 9:17pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Do you honestly believe that there's the slightest possibility of some future government legislating for an anti-Muslim program?


Absolutely. If not a moratorium on further Muslim immigration, then a greatly reduced influx of them.

The NSW Christian Democrat leader who is also the Assistant President of the Legislative Council ~ The Rev Fred Nile ~ went to an election on the platform of stopping any further Muslim immigration for at least 10 years.

He was not ostracised from the political community for having suggested this.

There are a whole swathe of Radio Talkback hosts just in Sydney alone who for years have been advocating for Australia to stop ... Quote: "importing its enemies under the aegis of Political Correctness".

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Gone is the White Australia policy of yesteryear where those who were different were classified as fauna.


Grin Are you quite sure you're not off with the pixies again with this remark?

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Multiculturalism - and that includes Muslims, is well established now and it's too late to do a thing about it.


Not at all.

Overnight a new policy of assimilation could easily and rightly be introduced into our schools whereby our second, third, and fourth generation immigrant ethnics are no longer encouraged to 'celebrate' their Chinese / Indian / Greek / Pacific Islander / etc etc de facto foreign national identities... 30 - 40 - 50 years after their great grandparents arrived here.

There's benign multiculturalism and then there's the multiculturalism that is toxic and undermining of Australia's democratic and free cultural heritage.

As a female you should be WAY more appalled than me at the steady encroachment of Islamic values in Australian society, with Sharia Law ensuring that the sisterhood gets treated like chattels and second class citizens with the full knowledge of the gutless bastards who populate our political class.





Why obfuscate under a volume of pathetic pedantic spin, Herbert?  Just say it outright as Nicole has.

Ban all Muslims from Australia.

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Ideally, that would be the case.

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Reply #84 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:44am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
Absolutely. If not a moratorium on further Muslim immigration, then a greatly reduced influx of them.

The NSW Christian Democrat leader who is also the Assistant President of the Legislative Council ~ The Rev Fred Nile ~ went to an election on the platform of stopping any further Muslim immigration for at least 10 years.

He was not ostracised from the political community for having suggested this.

There are a whole swathe of Radio Talkback hosts just in Sydney alone who for years have been advocating for Australia to stop ... Quote: "importing its enemies under the aegis of Political Correctness".


I doubt we'll ever have a moratorium. We are also free to practise any religion we choose providing we don't break the law and so far the majority of Muslims have proven to be law abiding citizens.

I wonder if Fred Nile will ever become PM? As far as talkback radio goes - 2GB appears to be the only one obsessed with Muslims and migration and as it is a conservative station, almost extreme, of course they're going to try to please their audience.

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mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
Gone is the White Australia policy of yesteryear where those who were different were classified as fauna.


Grin Are you quite sure you're not off with the pixies again with this remark?


No - I'm off with the fairies.  Roll Eyes

It was meant to be an analogy of sorts. We only have to look back over the last 50 years to see the various stages of racism this nation has gone through in regard to asylum seekers and migrants. It all passes eventually.

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Overnight a new policy of assimilation could easily and rightly be introduced into our schools whereby our second, third, and fourth generation immigrant ethnics are no longer encouraged to 'celebrate' their Chinese / Indian / Greek / Pacific Islander / etc etc de facto foreign national identities... 30 - 40 - 50 years after their great grandparents arrived here.

There's benign multiculturalism and then there's the multiculturalism that is toxic and undermining of Australia's democratic and free cultural heritage.

As a female you should be WAY more appalled than me at the steady encroachment of Islamic values in Australian society, with Sharia Law ensuring that the sisterhood gets treated like chattels and second class citizens with the full knowledge of the gutless bastards who populate our political class.


I believe some infant schools have introduced assimilation programs, but it is about embracing the differences, not rejecting them.

Australian women have never been treated equally and wages today indicate that we are still paid far less than our male counterparts. I doubt Islam is responsible for that. We have laws to protect females from the brutality of males and if these adult females choose not to exercise their legal rights - there is nothing we can do about it.

Personally I would rather see harsher laws effected to protect children. Perhaps there is a punishment in Sharia law which involves cutting off the child abuser's hands or genitals. The general population would certainly go along with that.
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Reply #85 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:44am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
A couple of years ago my adult son was beaten up by a group of caucasian teenagers for no other reason than they were bored.


Were they drunk? Kings Cross? A nightclub? A train way out west near midnight? Part-Abos who looked white?

Getting set upon by Anglo kids in Sydney is such a rare event you should have reported this to the Daily Telegraph and the television stations. They pay good money for Once-in-a-Blue-Moon stories. Believe-it-or-Not stories pay Big Bucks.

Maybe you could pick up some extra cash by telling the news services about groups of Anglos harassing and threatening white girls down at Cronulla beach? Slip me a few quid and I'll go witness for you.

"Yeah, it was them that done it", I'll tell them. "Huh? Mustafa and Mohammed? Hell, no way! They were Shane and Wayne and their friends from the Catholic Church in Punchbowl where they've been radicalised by Father Padraic O'Shaughnessy!"

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
This is a common occurrence as you would know if you lived in NSW. We have a greater chance of being beaten up/killed and robbed by our own kind.


Not not a Sydney girl are you? That's obvious.




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Reply #86 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:52am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:44am:
mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
A couple of years ago my adult son was beaten up by a group of caucasian teenagers for no other reason than they were bored.


Were they drunk? Kings Cross? A nightclub? A train way out west near midnight? Part-Abos who looked white?

Getting set upon by Anglo kids in Sydney is such a rare event you should have reported this to the Daily Telegraph and the television stations. They pay good money for Once-in-a-Blue-Moon stories. Believe-it-or-Not stories pay Big Bucks.

Maybe you could pick up some extra cash by telling the news services about groups of Anglos harassing and threatening white girls down at Cronulla beach? Slip me a few quid and I'll go witness for you.

"Yeah, it was them that done it", I'll tell them. "Huh? Mustafa and Mohammed? Hell, no way! They were Shane and Wayne and their friends from the Catholic Church in Punchbowl where they've been radicalised by Father Padraic O'Shaughnessy!"

mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 7:42pm:
This is a common occurrence as you would know if you lived in NSW. We have a greater chance of being beaten up/killed and robbed by our own kind.


Not not a Sydney girl are you? That's obvious.


No - my son was beaten up in Cairns by a group of children belonging to WHITE holiday makers. He's a fit young man and they did no permanent damage.

I was born and bred in Sydney - a very nice part of Sydney where everyone was white and spoke excellent strine. 

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Reply #87 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:01am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:52am:
No - my son was beaten up in Cairns by a group of children belonging to WHITE holiday makers. He's a fit young man and they did no permanent damage.


Sounds a little suspect to me. There are elements to this that you either don't know about, or aren't telling us.

mantra wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:52am:
I was born and bred in Sydney - a very nice part of Sydney where everyone was white and spoke excellent strine. 



Bloody oath.

Hoo roo for now.  Cool


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Reply #88 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:33am
 
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Why obfuscate under a volume of pathetic pedantic spin, Herbert?  Just say it outright as Nicole has.


I can understand why Aussie made this comment and it can be directed at anyone with a fixed mindset who believes the only real criminals are drunk aborigines, Asians, Muslims or any other dark skinned person.

We all have to adapt to our changing demographics no matter how difficult it is and can only be thankful that our children will be more open minded than their parents.

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Reply #89 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 9:37am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:33am:
We all have to adapt to our changing demographics no matter how difficult it is and can only be thankful that our children will be more open minded than their parents.


I find it extremely difficult to believe that Herb's views are typical even within his generation.

But I'll just point out yet again the hilarity of an immigrant from the UK with prejudices such as his,
grandstanding about importing people to this country with intolerant views.
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