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Reply #30 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:59pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

How many visa overstayers are given the dole?

How many of them are given government housing?

How many of them are entitled to free dental/medical?

How many of them are given free legal aid?

See visa overtsayers don't get a single cent or gov assistance.

Compare what an asylum seekr gets to that of a visa over stayer??

Matty used to ask exactly the same questions, Woof Woof. He longs to be in Opposition.

In September, he’ll be in government. Will you be voting up in Queensland, dear?

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Reply #31 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:59pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 7:18pm:

Some visa overstayers are treated very well.

My sister and her 3 girlfriends received little more than a tut and a ticking off.

It's all about risk and who is a threat to society.

4 22 year-old girls are hardly an issue.

how overdue were they? 2 days? had they found employment and were trying to hide from the authorities?

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Reply #32 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:01pm

visa overstayers once caught are put on the next plane out, they don't get to give a cock and bull story and then spend the rest of their lives on the dole living in public housing.

Visa overstayers really cost us next to nothing compared to asyllum seekers, who when who have their claims refused tie up the legal system with appeal after appeal, all at no cost to them??

Maybe they should pay their own legal appeals, after all they can stump up 10K for a boat ride??

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96434	Re: 2 simple questions? Reply #33 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:04pm You can’t answer your own questions, Woof Woof. That’s rhetorical .It’s called leading the witness. Matty always gave his readers time to give their thoughts. THEN he would come in with an intelligent reply, based on evidence, judgement and considered analysis. Thoughts?
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Reply #34 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:05pm

I'll be voting early and often, after all how will they prove that I voted many times, you need to show no ID, so I could go to any booth and say I am anyone who is on the roll and vote all day hell I might visit every booth in Swans seat I'll vote against him 20 times.

Why don't you need to show proof of ID and have your name marked off on an integrated computer system???? so when you vote your name is locked out???

voting is open to manipulation, why is that

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Reply #35 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:05pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

visa overstayers once caught are put on the next plane out, they don't get to give a cock and bull story and then spend the rest of their lives on the dole living in public housing.

Visa overstayers really cost us next to nothing compared to asyllum seekers, who when who have their claims refused tie up the legal system with appeal after appeal, all at no cost to them??

Maybe they should pay their own legal appeals, after all they can stump up 10K for a boat ride??

really? you sure about that? we have half the immigration department dedicated to finding and catching them, surely that costs money, we detain them , more money, feed them, more money, we provide legal aid for those that require it, more money, we pay to fly them out , more money ....

for every 10 asylum seekers, we have 100 illegal overstayers .... costs may not add up per person, but add ten times the people and suddenly it's not peanuts any more.

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Reply #36 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:06pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

I'll be voting early and often, after all how will they prove that I voted many times, you need to show no ID, so I could go to any booth and say I am anyone who is on the roll and vote all day hell I might visit every booth in Swans seat I'll vote against him 20 times.

Why don't you need to show proof of ID and have your name marked off on an integrated computer system???? so when you vote your name is locked out???

voting is open to manipulation, why is that

it's an imperfect world isn't it !!!! where will it end.

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Reply #37 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:07pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

How many visa overstayers are given the dole?

How many of them are given government housing?

How many of them are entitled to free dental/medical?

How many of them are given free legal aid?

See visa overtsayers don't get a single cent or gov assistance.

Compare what an asylum seekr gets to that of a visa over stayer??

Matty used to ask exactly the same questions, Woof Woof. He longs to be in Opposition.

In September, he’ll be in government. Will you be voting up in Queensland, dear?

Uncanny, isn't it, karnal? This lovely old dear from Qld could continue to ask the exact same questions as that lovely young man that used to attend the GREENS meeting at Top Ryde, just up the road from KFC.
Matty doesn't have a Grandmother in Qld, does he?

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Reply #38 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:10pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:05pm:

I'll be voting early and often, after all how will they prove that I voted many times, you need to show no ID, so I could go to any booth and say I am anyone who is on the roll and vote all day hell I might visit every booth in Swans seat I'll vote against him 20 times.

Why don't you need to show proof of ID and have your name marked off on an integrated computer system???? so when you vote your name is locked out???

voting is open to manipulation, why is that

True, Woof Woof. You’ll have to do this through the post though, won’t you?

Who’s seat is Dunedin in?

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Reply #39 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:18pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

How many visa overstayers are given the dole?

How many of them are given government housing?

How many of them are entitled to free dental/medical?

How many of them are given free legal aid?

See visa overtsayers don't get a single cent or gov assistance.
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Compare what an asylum seekr gets to that of a visa over stayer??

Matty used to ask exactly the same questions, Woof Woof. He longs to be in Opposition.

In September, he’ll be in government. Will you be voting up in Queensland, dear?

Uncanny, isn't it, karnal? This lovely old dear from Qld could continue to ask the exact same questions as that lovely young man that used to attend the GREENS meeting at Top Ryde, just up the road from KFC.
Matty doesn't have a Grandmother in Qld, does he?

It’s possible, Skippy. When Woof Woof said she was a single mother from Queensland, I didn’t know she meant single grandmother.

Is this true, Woof Woof? Do they give you a sole grandparenting payment for that?

Please explain.

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Reply #40 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 5:43am

cods wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

How much debt is too much??

How many asylum seekers arriving per year is too much?

Well there are not really very many ATM so i doubt its anywhere near "too much" now. On the other hand there are a LOT of visa over stayers.

SOB

do we do a budget forecast for the overstayers???

I didnt realize we fed and clothed them as well.

They must be surviving somehow - taking jobs off australians

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Reply #41 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 5:51am

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

How many visa overstayers are given the dole?

How many of them are given government housing?

How many of them are entitled to free dental/medical?

How many of them are given free legal aid?

See visa overtsayers don't get a single cent or gov assistance.

Compare what an asylum seekr gets to that of a visa over stayer??

And because of that they are taking the jobs of aussies. Aussies and refugees have to go on the dole because some visa overstaying cheat has taken the jobs. Not only that but they are obviously not paying tax so the employer is breaking the law and paying them under the table.

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Reply #42 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 6:52am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

How much debt is too much??

How many asylum seekers arriving per year is too much?

Well there are not really very many ATM so i doubt its anywhere near "too much" now. On the other hand there are a LOT of visa over stayers.

SOB

Dunce again! Maybe you should just leave that cone-shaped cap on all the time???

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Re: 2 simple questions?
Reply #43 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 7:07am

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

visa overstayers once caught are put on the next plane out, they don't get to give a cock and bull story and then spend the rest of their lives on the dole living in public housing.

Visa overstayers really cost us next to nothing compared to asyllum seekers, who when who have their claims refused tie up the legal system with appeal after appeal, all at no cost to them??

Maybe they should pay their own legal appeals, after all they can stump up 10K for a boat ride??

The question should why can't the overstayers be let apply for a further visa, because thats what we allow the boat people to do with TPV s.

Whats the difference, one group here to join society,and the other her for the same resson, too join society.

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Reply #44 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 7:08am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 6:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

woof woof wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

How much debt is too much??

How many asylum seekers arriving per year is too much?

Well there are not really very many ATM so i doubt its anywhere near "too much" now. On the other hand there are a LOT of visa over stayers.

SOB

Dunce again! Maybe you should just leave that cone-shaped cap on all the time???