Australian Politics Forum - Would you change your views of

woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Would you change your views of Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:01pm Would you change your views on asylum seekers and their "rights" if we were not party to the UN and were under no obligation to take them in??
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #1 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:06pm No
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woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #2 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:10pm So if we exit the UN and have no obligation to take them even though they would have NO rights your still happy for them to arrive in their thousands?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137758 Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #3 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:17pm woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:01pm: Would you change your views on asylum seekers and their "rights" if we were not party to the UN and were under no obligation to take them in?? No.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #4 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:19pm Negatory.
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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #5 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:21pm Me neither.
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Reply #6 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

thats interesting.

becuase all of you quote the UN this the UN that.

But it shows that regardless what the situation is, IE we are not party to the UN and the legalaties that go with it, and that would exclude anyone from claiming asylum, you ppl still think we should take them in.'

Very interesting, so yours acceptance of these has nothing to do with us being in the UN. Yet you quote the UN as it is convenient, but when it taken away, you'd still take these bludgers in??

Why?

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Reply #7 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:27pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:10pm:

So if we exit the UN and have no obligation to take them even though they would have NO rights your still happy for them to arrive in their thousands?

Explain what you mean by 'No rights'.

Do you mean that they can't be fed, clothed, sheltered?

Or do you mean 'legal rights' whereby the Govt of the day could drop asylum seekers in the middle of the desert and tell them to make their own way?

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Reply #8 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

thats interesting.

becuase all of you quote the UN this the UN that.

But it shows that regardless what the situation is, IE we are not party to the UN and the legalaties that go with it, and that would exclude anyone from claiming asylum, you ppl still think we should take them in.'

Very interesting, so yours acceptance of these has nothing to do with us being in the UN. Yet you quote the UN as it is convenient, but when it taken away, you'd still take these bludgers in??

Why?

If your house burned down and you had nowhere to sleep I'd even take you in, woof....

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woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #9 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:32pm No rights as in they'd have the same rights as what ppl would have who would want to claim asylum in Nth Korea or China for example.
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woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #10 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:37pm no rights as in when they turn up we just put them on a plane back to where they originated from, no legal appeals no sob stories, just on a plane see ya later.
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Reply #11 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:43pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

thats interesting.

becuase all of you quote the UN this the UN that.

But it shows that regardless what the situation is, IE we are not party to the UN and the legalaties that go with it, and that would exclude anyone from claiming asylum, you ppl still think we should take them in.'

Very interesting, so yours acceptance of these has nothing to do with us being in the UN. Yet you quote the UN as it is convenient, but when it taken away, you'd still take these bludgers in??

Why?

You seem to have no understanding of what an asylum seeker actually is.

I'll help you: "a person who, from fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, social group, or political opinion, has crossed an international frontier into a country in which he or she hopes to be granted refugee status".

Why would you call those people "bludgers"?

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Reply #12 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 9:23pm

woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Would you change your views on asylum seekers and their "rights" if we were not party to the UN and were under no obligation to take them in??

IMO, we, Australia, should not be a member state of that criminal entity, called, the 'United Nations'.

I will not be changing my views on asylum seekers - we should give them sanctuary.

I have not changed my views on moslem 'asylum seekers' - we should NOT, NOT, NOT, give them residency in Australia.
....because moslem 'cultural' 'values' are incompatible with a culture that seeks the expression of truth, justice, freedom.i

Moslem 'asylum seekers', should be directed to seek sanctuary, in moslem/Sharia jurisdictions.
[....moslems insist that ISLAM is superior, so let moslems seek sanctuary, in a 'superior' moslem jurisdiction - where moslems will be sure to be happy and content. Tongue

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And, because of the unremitting threat of acts of terror from those moslems living among us, the forced internment of all persons self declaring as moslems should be seriously considered by ALL Western nations, imo.

The values which Western societies cherish [truth, justice, freedom], are totally incompatible with moslems/ISLAMIC 'values'.

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Reply #13 - Apr 28^th, 2013 at 10:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:43pm:

You seem to have no understanding of what an asylum seeker actually is.

I'll help you: "a person who, from fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, social group, or political opinion, has crossed an international frontier into a country in which he or she hopes to be granted refugee status".

Why would you call those people "bludgers"?

You can't be serious. It's been reported that even after 5 years in Australia the great majority of Afghan 'refugees' are still bludging on the dole.

It took me two weeks to get a job in a factory when I arrived here ~ English not necessary.

These very same fraudsters who arrive here claiming persecution at home are very soon back in their own country visiting 'family and friends' only months after being granted Australian citizenship rights.

The armadas of Sri Lankans arriving here in recent months has exposed the whole 'asylum-seeker' industry as a rort and a racket by people simply wanting to access the benefits of living in a First World country that has a generous Social Welfare system.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Would you change your views of Reply #14 - Apr 28^th, 2013 at 11:00am woof woof wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 8:10pm: So if we exit the UN and have no obligation to take them even though they would have NO rights your still happy for them to arrive in their thousands? They dont arrive in the thousands SOB
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