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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #45 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:28pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:19am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:11am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 6:02am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 5:02pm:
People need to understand that the public education system isn't about education its about how much money can be rorted out of the budget to gift to union ensconced bludgers and layabouts so that they can flit effortlessly through life without barely lifting a finger.


Do you actually believe that?




Yes but only because its true.


So you think anyone that goes to a public school is a bludger and layabout?

Im calling poe. Nobody is that stupid.

SOB



Oh yes, you are that stupid..... Roll Eyes


You see? you do this then complain the thread is "about me". Troll.

SOB


Just trying to show you, that yet again, you got it wrong.

I don't expect you too understand.

Dumb troll is dumb troll, get it?

Of course you don't.

Grin Grin


Go away troll.

Now what were you distracting from? What didnt you want to discuss? Hmmmmm . . . .

Ahhh the myth that all unemployed are layabout bludgers.

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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #46 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:48pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:28pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:19am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:11am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 6:02am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 5:02pm:
People need to understand that the public education system isn't about education its about how much money can be rorted out of the budget to gift to union ensconced bludgers and layabouts so that they can flit effortlessly through life without barely lifting a finger.


Do you actually believe that?




Yes but only because its true.


So you think anyone that goes to a public school is a bludger and layabout?

Im calling poe. Nobody is that stupid.

SOB



Oh yes, you are that stupid..... Roll Eyes


You see? you do this then complain the thread is "about me". Troll.

SOB


Just trying to show you, that yet again, you got it wrong.

I don't expect you too understand.

Dumb troll is dumb troll, get it?

Of course you don't.

Grin Grin


Go away troll.

Now what were you distracting from? What didnt you want to discuss? Hmmmmm . . . .

Ahhh the myth that all unemployed are layabout bludgers.
SOB


Wrong thread you dam moron....

And who TF said the highlighted bit?

Dumb troll.
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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #47 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:58pm
 
I'll tell you in a couple of years how little goes. Already we have found areas where her teacher thinks she needs to work harder on, but have found it is more about her confidence, as she was doing stuff at home but a bit shy at school.

Doesn't look too hard....but not everyone performs well in the test/exam situation.
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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #49 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 9:56pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 10:54am:
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Robert, you are too hard on the kids from my point of view. It's all very well to say the test does what it's supposed to do, weed the good students out from the bad. But what does it say about our society that you are setting 8-9 year-olds up to fail . . .and that's what it looks like to me. The vast majority, unless there is cheating, will score badly and that is not the way to promote an enjoyment of education, which is what we need to have.



It is not society that sets them up to fail but their own families. What is schooling about in a literate society if not mastering reading and writing (of letters and numbers)?
It's not about watching tele or playing computer games. If the family doesn't apply the necessary discipline to make sure that a kid learns to read and write properly then the school alone - or especially despite the family - cannot do it.

This is where all the Gonski nonsense is revealed - education is not like medicine, where new and expensive and ever more sophisticated equipment is always coming into use and needs massive funding.

Reading, writing, maths, debating, critical thinking, the ability to focus doesn't require more and more equipment. If anything, all the electronic 'equipment' is there to distract and stupefy. If you look back over the last few decades, education standards have been going down commensurately with the amount of electronic gadgetry introduced into education.




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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #50 - May 1st, 2013 at 4:25am
 
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:28pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:19am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 8:11am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 6:02am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 5:02pm:
People need to understand that the public education system isn't about education its about how much money can be rorted out of the budget to gift to union ensconced bludgers and layabouts so that they can flit effortlessly through life without barely lifting a finger.


Do you actually believe that?




Yes but only because its true.


So you think anyone that goes to a public school is a bludger and layabout?

Im calling poe. Nobody is that stupid.

SOB



Oh yes, you are that stupid..... Roll Eyes


You see? you do this then complain the thread is "about me". Troll.

SOB


Just trying to show you, that yet again, you got it wrong.

I don't expect you too understand.

Dumb troll is dumb troll, get it?

Of course you don't.

Grin Grin


Go away troll.

Now what were you distracting from? What didnt you want to discuss? Hmmmmm . . . .

Ahhh the myth that all unemployed are layabout bludgers.
SOB


Wrong thread you dam moron....

And who TF said the highlighted bit?

Dumb troll.


I did why? Just condensed it all into a sentence.

Also I meant publicly schooled ppl not unemployed. Those topics all get mixed up because you ppl seem to think the same on them all. Publicly educated, refugees, unemployed . . . . .

SOB
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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #51 - May 1st, 2013 at 8:36am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 10:54am:
If the kid is interested in reading books, the test would not be so difficult IMO.

This is a very good comment, can't recall who made it.
But the fact is very few kids these days are encouraged to read outside school. Teachers will tell you they know that a lot of homes don't have one book in them.

Robert, you are too hard on the kids from my point of view. It's all very well to say the test does what it's supposed to do, weed the good students out from the bad. But what does it say about our society that you are setting 8-9 year-olds up to fail . . .and that's what it looks like to me. The vast majority, unless there is cheating, will score badly and that is not the way to promote an enjoyment of education, which is what we need to have.


Actually, well over 90% scored "at or above national minimum standard" in every state except NT. 

http://www.nap.edu.au/verve/_resources/NAPLAN_2012_National_Report.pdf

Funny - the oldheads are the first to complain about kids these days not being able to do the basics - yet complain that piss-easy tests are "too hard".
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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #52 - May 1st, 2013 at 8:47am
 
90% across Australia, above the National average.
That means if there are some students out there that are below that average , Its not the students fault its the fault of the Teachers not doing their JOB. Teach
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Re: Has anybody read a Naplan Test?
Reply #53 - May 1st, 2013 at 8:48am
 
... wrote on May 1st, 2013 at 8:36am:
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 30th, 2013 at 10:54am:
If the kid is interested in reading books, the test would not be so difficult IMO.

This is a very good comment, can't recall who made it.
But the fact is very few kids these days are encouraged to read outside school. Teachers will tell you they know that a lot of homes don't have one book in them.

Robert, you are too hard on the kids from my point of view. It's all very well to say the test does what it's supposed to do, weed the good students out from the bad. But what does it say about our society that you are setting 8-9 year-olds up to fail . . .and that's what it looks like to me. The vast majority, unless there is cheating, will score badly and that is not the way to promote an enjoyment of education, which is what we need to have.


Actually, well over 90% scored "at or above national minimum standard" in every state except NT. 

http://www.nap.edu.au/verve/_resources/NAPLAN_2012_National_Report.pdf

Funny - the oldheads are the first to complain about kids these days not being able to do the basics - yet complain that piss-easy tests are "too hard". 




if 90% did really well why the need for the GONSKI report???surely we are doing really well.. Embarrassed Embarrassed
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