Yadda wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:




Brian_Ross,

Your claims re Kony's Lord's Resistance Army, is like if i raped your sister, then i [falsely] claimed that i had your permission to rape your sister.

Then, a third party came along, and repeated my false claims.




Repeating the false claims of a perpetrator of a crime [i.e. repeating his false claims of justification] in no way justifies the actions of a criminal.

But when a 3rd party then repeats the false claims of a perpetrator of a crime, WHEN THEY KNOW THAT SUCH CLAIMS ARE FALSE, makes them complicit in the crime, imo.

The criminal [Kony] is justifying his crimes.

And then you [Brian_Ross] come along, and [knowing that they are lies] repeat the lies of the  criminal, justifying his crimes.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 10:04pm:




gandalf,

Your claim would be valid, if ISLAM were a virtuous philosophy.

It is not.

ISLAM, patently, is NOT a virtuous philosophy.






"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028


"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 004.144


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse....."
Koran 3.118


"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76i








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Another - revision of history - moslem lie.







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gandalf,




But both Mohammed [in the hadith] and Allah [in the Koran] cursed Christians, for rejecting ISLAM.

Allah [in the Koran] cursed ALL Christians.



gandalf,

If you were a sincere, and a real person, who had [as you claim] a great deal of respect for Christianity and for Jesus and for his message, you would first have to renounce ISLAM.

That is the most blatant 'tell', of your lies, revealing your insincerity.

You are a moslem.

You choose ISLAM.



"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51





ISLAM is a false religion, for a false, deceitful, vicious, violent people.


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gandalf,

Please enlighten us all.

How do you justify the words of your god [above] and the murderous behaviour of persons claiming to be moslems [who are clearly obeying such urgings from your god, Allah], and reconcile your own claims about ISLAM's purported virtue ?



Any person who rejects ISLAM, is the friend of, and the servant of, SATAN, and they can be 'lawfully' killed - that is what your religion, ISLAM, promotes among moslems, gandalf.

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2013 at 12:20am:




How do you justify wrapping a child in a suicide-vest and compelling him/her to walk into a crowd whilst the nutcase behind the scenes arms/ignites it? How do you justify leaving explosive packed pressure cookers in crowds of thousands at an event designed to encourage the goodwill of all peoples'? How do you justify flying planes of innocent people into buildings full of innocent people? And I do not mention the hundreds/thousands of military who have  given their lives or been disabled by these scum, or the innocents in their own countries.

Do not ask me to empathise with these fvckers!

Mr Ross.....you are an arsehole!

You need reading lessons arsehole!  EMPATHISE.....not emphasise you moron.

No debate with you dickhead.....you need to go back to school.......

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90% of Brian's arguments revolve around accusing his opponents of being bigots, rather than addressing what they actually say.

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2013 at 11:47am:


*SIGH*, I do address what you say, FD.  Far more than you address what I've said.  Look to your arguments and your comments and correct them.

simonhall1900 wrote on May 12^th, 2013 at 11:51am:


I doubt we are friends, Simonhall.   You've insulted me from the start.

How about you change your tune and judge people on their individual actions, not their group associations.

I wonder, do you talk about racial groups in the same way?  Or do you realise that is racism?   Do you hate Jews for being Jews or do you realise that is anti-Semitism?   Are such things bad in your mind?

If so, why then the Islamophobic bigotry?   

simonhall1900 wrote on May 12^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:


So, ALL Muslims are "murdering scum"? 

Thanks for demonstrating your bigotry, Simon.   

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Yes.  It is the lowest form of wit.  Thank you for displaying your apparent personal enmity towards me for merely expressing an opinion that you disagree with.  Are you always this vehement in your comments towards strangers you disagree with? 

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Yet you don't express a hatred for all Jews on the basis of what a few Jews may do but you do for all Muslims on the basis of what a few Muslims may have done...

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Still resorting to ad hominem?  You're certainly not displaying much maturity, are you?