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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #285 - May 17th, 2013 at 10:00pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 9:16pm:
Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 8:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 2:39pm:
I don't recognise you as an authority on anything, Yadda, except Crayon use.   

I provided you a link which shows rape is forbidden by Islam.  You ignored it.

Typical for a bigot...   Roll Eyes




Confronted with truth and facts that do not coincide with your own argument and with your own worldview;

DEFLECT;
CASTIGATE;
ABUSE;
and.....
REFUSE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE(S)



How is pointing out what you claimed was untrue, "refusing to address the issue(s)", Yadda?









Brian_Ross,

How is it 'bigotry', for me to point out that what you claimed, was untrue, ?

You are the bigot Brian.



Hey everyone, here is a new definition of a bigot.

A bigot = = anyone who disagrees with Brian_Ross.


Cheesy         Grin         Grin        i Quote:

"I provided you a link which shows rape is forbidden by Islam."




Duh.

A solitary moslem SAY rape is forbidden by ISLAM.
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/Women/rape_in_islam.asp



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Dozens, and dozens, of similar stories of ISLAMIC rape in Europe......


http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/


Duh.

Moslems DO rape.i


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Could it be that you are the one who is refusing to accept that what you claim is actually untrue?

Of course you are, you're a bigot.   Roll Eyes



Your claim is that i am a bigot,

Because you have 'proved' that 'rape is forbidden by Islam' - because a solitary moslem makes such a claim.

Even though the hadith, ISLAM's own foundation text proves that non-consensual sex with captive women - IS NOT FORBIDDEN.iBrian_Ross said....
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Yet mainstream Islam teaches that rape is a sin...






ONCE AGAIN BRIAN, i ask you the simple question;

If mainstream ISLAM teaches that rape is a sin...



Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 1:07pm:

Then why wasn't Mohammed punished for teh rapes which he committed [upon captive women] ?


Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251760605/0#0


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Reply #288 - May 17th, 2013 at 10:15pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 10:02pm:
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Yep, that sums up your posts wonderfully, Yadda.   Grin

When you stop the crayon and the crazy formatting, I might be able to follow your post and answer it.  Until, enjoy the sound of one hand clapping.    Grin
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Reply #289 - May 17th, 2013 at 10:30pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 7:11pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 6:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Bad Islam is the responsibility of the bad Muslims, Soren.  Capeche?

You however blame all Muslims for the bad reputation that bad Muslims have created in the last "x" years.

That is collective guilt.  That is, amongst thinking people, a "bad thing".   It is poor reasoning and poor understanding of the religion's followers.

That is no different from the (relatively few) Christians who continue to blame all Jews for the execution of Christ 2,000+ years ago.

Typical of bigots though.   Roll Eyes



Collective guilt is bad? Okay. So does that count for white Australians, too? Doesn't seem so according to your comments in this thread: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1368482737/15


The only guilt I've suggested there is one for denying historical facts, not for the actions of Australians over 50+ years ago, Mist.  You do perceive the difference?    Roll Eyes


Guilt for denying facts? Why should guilt even enter the issue? You've been arguing people shouldn't be charged of something through association. So who is to feel guilt here, if at all?
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Reply #290 - May 17th, 2013 at 11:16pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 9:55pm:
Soren wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
The majority of Muslims follow various Sunni and Shia interpretations of Islam. Which one do you mean as the majority?  Any particular Sunni sect. ANy SHia sect? Or what?
Or do you really not know?


Don't over-complicate this Soren - we don't need to identify every single interpretation of islam - there are too many to count.

All we are interested in are the ones [the moslems] that promote violence and intolerance



Ah!, you mean, those moslems who embrace mainstream ISLAM.

Right?

The ISLAM which is described in the Koran and Hadith, which is DEFINED by the Koran and Hadith.

Surely ???



gandalf,

How is mainstream ISLAM defined ?, if it is not defined by ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran and Hadith.



"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11



gandalf said....
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"All we are interested in are the ones [the moslems] that promote violence and intolerance....."


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.....as opposed to the ones [the moslems] that promote the opposite [tolerance of non-moslems].

And all we need to know is that the number of muslims in the latter are in the clear majority.




How is a moslem defined again ?





Who is a moslem ?

"Allah is my god, and Mohammed is his prophet."

[i.e. the Allah, and the Mohammed, as described in the Koran and Hadith]


Something about those who reject faith are to be enslaved or killed ?
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Reply #291 - May 18th, 2013 at 12:30am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 12:44pm:
Soren wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 9:39am:

The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap.....






Dozens, and dozens, of similar stories of ISLAMIC rape in Europe......

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

Brian_Ross said....
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Yet mainstream Islam teaches that rape is a sin...


...speaking as though a moslem having non-consensual sex with non-moslem women was haram.

Yadda says....
To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.


Yes, Yadda may claim that but still rape is forbidden under Sh'ria law.
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Brian,

Why do so many moslems disagree with that opinion ?



Google;
"they had no right to say no" rape

Google;
"rape jihad"iIMAGE.....
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To rape an unveiled woman.
Moslem gang rape in Sweden.




[NO MATTER THE LYING DENIALS FROM THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY] ISLAM SANCTIONS THE RAPE OF INFIDEL WOMEN AND GIRLS AS 'LAWFUL'...

"....attacks on girls as young as 13.... they had no right to say no. They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed:
...I’m not doing anything wrong."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825922999.html





"......A Muslim man commits rape if and only if he has sex with a Muslim woman....Having forced sex with an infidel woman does not at all constitute rape, Islamically speaking."

By  Abul Kasem
http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/MeatImam.htm

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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #292 - May 18th, 2013 at 8:21am
 
Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 11:16pm:
Ah!, you mean, those moslems who embrace mainstream ISLAM.

Right?

The ISLAM which is described in the Koran and Hadith, which is DEFINED by the Koran and Hadith.

Surely ???


No - because muslim behaviour is not defined by what *YOU* think you know what the texts say, its defined by what *MUSLIMS* think they know what the texts say.

Thats why I don't want to have a doctrinal debate. The only meaningful way to measure this is see how mainstream muslims themselves act.

Yadda wrote on May 17th, 2013 at 11:16pm:
Something about those who reject faith are to be enslaved or killed ?


There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world, if the majority of them really did adhere to this philosophy, don't you think the carnage and destruction inflicted by muslims would be just a little more dramatic?

Of a population of around half a million, why did the muslims only manage to muster around 200 in a "show of force" - in the only protest of its kind in the history of muslim settlement in Australia?

Do you think all Australian non-muslims are shaking in their boots?
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Reply #293 - May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm
 
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin
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Reply #294 - May 18th, 2013 at 10:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin


Allah humma Innee As alooka 'ilman naa fee-ow wa Rizq-ow waa See-ow wa Shee-faa amm min Kooll-lee daa-een. &&


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Reply #295 - May 18th, 2013 at 11:18pm
 
Soren wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin


Allah humma Innee As alooka 'ilman naa fee-ow wa Rizq-ow waa See-ow wa Shee-faa amm min Kooll-lee daa-een. &&


I take it you'd preferred I'd used a Christian prayer such as:
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Dear Lord, I continually ask you to fill me with the knowledge of your will through all the wisdom and understanding that your Spirit gives, so that I may live a life worthy of you and please you in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of you, being strengthened with all power according to your glorious might so that I may have great endurance and patience, and giving joyful thanks to you, who has qualified me to share in the inheritance of your holy people in the kingdom of light.  Thank you for rescuing me from the dominion of darkness and bringing me into the kingdom of your Son. (Col 1:9-13)


So long-winded to say essentially the same thing, Soren....   Roll Eyes
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Reply #296 - May 18th, 2013 at 11:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 11:18pm:
Soren wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin


Allah humma Innee As alooka 'ilman naa fee-ow wa Rizq-ow waa See-ow wa Shee-faa amm min Kooll-lee daa-een. &&


I take it you'd preferred I'd used a Christian prayer such as:
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Dear Lord, I continually ask you to fill me with the knowledge of your will through all the wisdom and understanding that your Spirit gives, so that I may live a life worthy of you and please you in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of you, being strengthened with all power according to your glorious might so that I may have great endurance and patience, and giving joyful thanks to you, who has qualified me to share in the inheritance of your holy people in the kingdom of light.  Thank you for rescuing me from the dominion of darkness and bringing me into the kingdom of your Son. (Col 1:9-13)


So long-winded to say essentially the same thing, Soren....   Roll Eyes



You make it up as you go, 'Brian'.

Anyway, if it's all the same, why do you have the Muslim quote, why not the other one, the Christian one?

What's the attraction about to Islam if you are not a Muslim?

The Koran is the most long-winded, incoherent and disjointed non-sense book there is.
Yet you prefer it.
Why?

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Reply #297 - May 18th, 2013 at 11:35pm
 
Soren wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 11:28pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 11:18pm:
Soren wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin


Allah humma Innee As alooka 'ilman naa fee-ow wa Rizq-ow waa See-ow wa Shee-faa amm min Kooll-lee daa-een. &&


I take it you'd preferred I'd used a Christian prayer such as:
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Dear Lord, I continually ask you to fill me with the knowledge of your will through all the wisdom and understanding that your Spirit gives, so that I may live a life worthy of you and please you in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of you, being strengthened with all power according to your glorious might so that I may have great endurance and patience, and giving joyful thanks to you, who has qualified me to share in the inheritance of your holy people in the kingdom of light.  Thank you for rescuing me from the dominion of darkness and bringing me into the kingdom of your Son. (Col 1:9-13)


So long-winded to say essentially the same thing, Soren....   Roll Eyes



You make it up as you go, 'Brian'.

Anyway, if it's all the same, why do you have the Muslim quote, why not the other one, the Christian one?

What's the attraction about to Islam if you are not a Muslim?

The Koran is the most long-winded, incoherent and disjointed non-sense book there is.
Yet you prefer it.
Why?



Why not?  It is short and to the point.  When I started debating online, you weren't allowed more than three lines in a .signature file.  I've stuck to that ever since.  Do you have a problem with such pithy comments?

Note many posters who are I'm pretty sure non-Buddhists using Buddhist greetings in their messages.  You going to criticise them as well?

No, of course not, you just like to pick on anything Islamic or Muslims, don't you, Soren?

It's also a great trap for bigots.   Come in spinner!  Grin

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Reply #298 - May 19th, 2013 at 10:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
As I've said, Yadda, you will need to fix the weird formatting and the crayon scribblings if you want me to reply.  Your posts hurt my eyes.  I can't stand even reading them!   Grin



Here's plain text. Can you read it? Can you comprehend it? Can you comment on it?


Oxford grooming ring was race-hate gang rape


Why did only one Muslim cleric have the guts to say it? Why was everyone else scared to? Why are they STILL scared to?

And why – even after all the sickening stories of those Oxford schoolgirls having babies aborted with hooks, being repeatedly gang-raped, beaten, branded and burned with cigarettes – are people STILL shying away from saying exactly what kind of crimes these are?

Because what happened to these girls can’t just be chucked in the box marked “general sex crimes”.

These gang atrocities in Oxford – just like the ones in Rochdale, Derby and Telford – were the very worst kind of ­racially motivated hate crimes committed by Muslim men who’ve been taught to believe that white women are worthless trash and deserve to be punished for their “decadent” Western lifestyle, i.e. wearing make-up and short skirts.

And while most Muslim clerics have stayed silent on this, while our wider society refuses to acknowledge what these crimes are REALLY about, only Dr Taj Hargey, imam of the Oxford Islamic congregation, had the courage to stick his head above the parapet and say what happened to these girls WAS racially motivated and illustrates the deep- seated hatred some Muslim men have for white women.

“Some people are saying the predators’ religion was an irrelevance. But that’s deluded nonsense,” he says.

So why aren’t the police saying that? Why aren’t Oxford social services? Because only when the ugly truth is acknowledged – that in supposedly integrated Britain, some ­Muslim men (NOT necessarily Asian men) are ­targeting young white girls to abuse and degrade – can the problem be tackled.

This gang didn’t rape Muslim women, because they knew they’d be ostracised by their community and hunted down by the girls’ families.

But having seen how our gutless authorities operate on issues involving race, they knew they could defile white girls however and wherever they chose.

Time and again these terrified teenagers begged Thames Valley police for help but were turned away. As were their tormented parents.

Even staff at children’s homes where some of these girls were living knew exactly what was happening.

And they didn’t just ignore the abuse, they facilitated it... with one staff member actually buying kinky underwear for a girl she KNEW was being sold for sex.

And it’s no good these organisations now bleating they didn’t do enough. We KNOW that. What we want to know is why the bosses of those organisations still have jobs?

Thames Valley Chief constable Sara Thornton (£160,000 a year) has refused to resign, saying: “My focus is now on moving forward.”

Who cares about HER moving forward? What about those abused girls who can never move forward and who, no matter how much therapy they have, will forever be lost souls unable to trust or forge a loving relationship?

Yet still, the police think it’s enough to say they’ll try harder in future.

Likewise Oxfordshire social services. Five of the girls abused were in their care and the boss of that organisation, Joanna Simmons (£182,000 a year), won’t resign either.

“We now understand more about the grooming process,” she says.

Well, bully for her. Pity she hadn’t “understood” sooner... especially as it was happening right under her nose.

And why are these two women being given a choice about whether to stay or go? Why haven’t they been sacked?

They get paid big bucks to take responsibility when the dog dirt hits the fan. So why aren’t they?

These women, just like everyone else in this horror story, did nothing to confront this evil because to do so might have led to ­accusations of racism.

And everyone knows that in Britain today the quickest way to have your career wrecked is to be branded ­a racist.

And it’s because of this insidious ­political correctness that some Muslims ­appear to have been given immunity to the rules and the moral codes that apply to everyone else.

And while some allowances made in the name of religion don’t matter, the wholesale degradation of vulnerable young white women DOES!

It’s time the Muslim community took a long hard look at what it has allowed to ­happen in the name of Islam (which ­actually teaches respect for women).

As must the police and the social services ­because their ­refusal to accept responsibility for what happened to these vulnerable girls makes them just as guilty for the ruination of their lives as those filthy ­rapists.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-oxford-grooming-ring-1896865


Islam is not a victim, it is a predator.


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Reply #299 - May 19th, 2013 at 10:45pm
 
....racists will need to face God in the end

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