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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West. Reply #315 - May 25^th, 2013 at 9:47am polite_gandalf wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 12:38pm: thats disgusting Crude indeed. I wouldn't waste the time nor energy on Soren.
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Reply #316 - May 28^th, 2013 at 11:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 7:45am:

The soldier's death is tragic, Soren but it was done by two Muslims. How many Muslim sat at home and had absolutely nothing to do with the event? You blame Islam for what those two murderers did, yet we have a clear example that the same Islam inspired millions to live peacefully with their neighbours. In your speed and zeal to pin the blame on the donkey you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater, to mix metaphors. Roll Eyes

Well, if Muslim terror killings have nuffin' to do wiv Islam, then the Inquisition or clerical child abuse have nuffin' to do wiv the Catholic Church, the invasion of Iraq and Afghansitan had nuffin to do with American or Western political aims, National Socialist atrocities had nuffin' to wiv Germany, the Soviet Gulags had nuffin' to do with Soviet communism, and so and and so forth.

All just random, unrelated, unconnected events by a few warped and non-mainstream individuals, representing no pattern, no underlying ideology, no common thread. ANyone who says otherwise is a goddam bigot blinded by hate.

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Reply #317 - Jun 4^th, 2013 at 10:28am

Baronvonrort wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

The Saudis execute people for blasphemy,apostasy,homosexuality,adultery,witchcraft,etc

Islam is the only belief that executes people for blasphemy in 2013.

Did you know? The Witchcraft act of England was repealed in 1951. That for your average lefty using the usual flexible relativity scales that means until 1951, Saudi Arabia and the UK were EXACTLY the same.

More over for imaginative thinkers and possessed of long bows, such a short time frame, (compared to say the Crusades) means that essentially Saudi Arabia and the UK are still exactly the same, therefore any comparisons are baaaaaad and racist and should not be made.

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Reply #318 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

Soren wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 11:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 7:45am:

The soldier's death is tragic, Soren but it was done by two Muslims. How many Muslim sat at home and had absolutely nothing to do with the event? You blame Islam for what those two murderers did, yet we have a clear example that the same Islam inspired millions to live peacefully with their neighbours. In your speed and zeal to pin the blame on the donkey you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater, to mix metaphors. Roll Eyes

Well, if Muslim terror killings have nuffin' to do wiv Islam, then the Inquisition or clerical child abuse have nuffin' to do wiv the Catholic Church, the invasion of Iraq and Afghansitan had nuffin to do with American or Western political aims, National Socialist atrocities had nuffin' to wiv Germany, the Soviet Gulags had nuffin' to do with Soviet communism, and so and and so forth.

Nope. As usual, hyperbole has gotten the better of you, Soren.

Islam can be interpretated many ways, as can any religion.

In Christianity we have the mainstream which emphasises the "touchy-feely" aspects of their religion and how Christ loved everybody. Yet at the same time we can read the hellfire and damnation teachings of Fred Phelps.

In Islam we have the mainstream which emphasises the "touchy-feelly" aspects of their religion and how everybody should get along with respect for one another. Yet at the same time we can read the hellfire and damnations of say, Abu Hamza.

So, whom should we believe represents the mainstream of their religion? The mainstream or the wild and wacky preacher who has a tiny number of followers?

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All just random, unrelated, unconnected events by a few warped and non-mainstream individuals, representing no pattern, no underlying ideology, no common thread. ANyone who says otherwise is a goddam bigot blinded by hate.

Yep.

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Reply #319 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

... In Christianity we have the mainstream which emphasises the "touchy-feely" aspects of their religion and how Christ loved everybody. Yet at the same time we can read the hellfire and damnation teachings of Fred Phelps.

In Islam we have the mainstream which emphasises the "touchy-feelly" aspects of their religion and how everybody should get along with respect for one another. Yet at the same time we can read the hellfire and damnations of say, Abu Hamza.

So, whom should we believe represents the mainstream of their religion? ...

Perhaps we could begin by establishing the fact that the vast majority of remote-controlled terrorism against non-combatant civilian populations across the world is conducted by Islam - and, yes, is conducted under the blanket accusation that there are segments of Muslim populations and governments that promote these views. And, that yes, there are certain governments in the world involved in 'police' actions with Islamic governments.

Perhaps we should also believe that these isolated, world-wide, attacks and protestations against anything Islamic or muslim are mere random events.

The collective modern 'West' is currently engaged in a naval-gazing exercise about its ability to oversee the ability of Homo Sapiens to survive into the 22nd century.

Listen to the music and enjoy your kebab in the meantime.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West. Reply #320 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:12pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:00pm: Nope. As usual, hyperbole has gotten the better of you, Soren. Islam can be interpretated many ways, as can any religion. And what makes your interpretation of it better than mine?
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West. Reply #321 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 8:22pm An oldie but a goodie, and well worth watching to the end.
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Winston Smith Gold Member Offline Ministry of Truth Posts: 1549 Oceania Gender:	Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West. Reply #322 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.
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Reply #323 - Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:33pm

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.

Winston, are you a crack head as others believe? Or am I being a troll?

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Reply #324 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 7:49am

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.

Its good that we have some members heads who are screwed on.

BBC program a few years ago did a documentary on how Alqaeda does not exist.

We have Adam Gadahn and yousef al khattab who are jews but make up videos and extremist videos claiming that they support alqaeda and run pro alqaeda propaganda.

You got multiple CIA agents now coming out and saying alqaeda doesn't exist.

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Reply #325 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 2:05pm

Soren wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 11:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 7:45am:

The soldier's death is tragic, Soren but it was done by two Muslims. How many Muslim sat at home and had absolutely nothing to do with the event? You blame Islam for what those two murderers did, yet we have a clear example that the same Islam inspired millions to live peacefully with their neighbours. In your speed and zeal to pin the blame on the donkey you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater, to mix metaphors. Roll Eyes

Well, if Muslim terror killings have nuffin' to do wiv Islam, then the Inquisition or clerical child abuse have nuffin' to do wiv the Catholic Church, the invasion of Iraq and Afghansitan had nuffin to do with American or Western political aims, National Socialist atrocities had nuffin' to wiv Germany, the Soviet Gulags had nuffin' to do with Soviet communism, and so and and so forth.

All just random, unrelated, unconnected events by a few warped and non-mainstream individuals, representing no pattern, no underlying ideology, no common thread. ANyone who says otherwise is a goddam bigot blinded by hate.

Quite right, old boy. What two deluded individuals do in the name of their religion is exactly the same as states acting to further their own interests. Social contract, innit. Likewise, Jim Jones and David Koresh were acting on behalf of the Vatican.

You've been studying the Faculty of Pakistani Studies code of ethics again, haven't you, dear? Marvellous stuff.

Have another cup of kool aid. Have two!

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Reply #326 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.

Which bogeyman do you reject?

The terrorist attacks like 9/11?

Muslims marching through Sydney with beheading placards?

Muslims fighting two decade long wars in the middle to prevent the establishment of democracy?

All the Muslims who have come on here and explained all the good reasons why the reject freedom, human rights and democracy?

Millions of people around the world living under the yolk of Islam without basic freedom and human dignity?

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Reply #327 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:55pm

Adamant wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:33pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.

Winston, are you a crack head as others believe? Or am I being a troll?

You want to start with me?

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Reply #328 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 7:20pm

freediver wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.

Which bogeyman do you reject?

The terrorist attacks like 9/11?

Muslims marching through Sydney with beheading placards?

Muslims fighting two decade long wars in the middle to prevent the establishment of democracy?

All the Muslims who have come on here and explained all the good reasons why the reject freedom, human rights and democracy?

Millions of people around the world living under the yolk of Islam without basic freedom and human dignity?

Muslims are largely irrelevant to most of our lives in Australia. Stay out of their countries and stay away from their private gatherings if you don't like their culture. I have experienced orders of magnitude more fearmongering and anti-Islamic propaganda from the TV than I have had negative experiences in real life. I have rarely had a problem with minorities, as long as I've treated them politely and with the same respect I would treat any other human being.

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Reply #329 - Aug 29^th, 2013 at 7:37pm

Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 9:40pm:

I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it.

Islam is a political ideology as well as a religion, it governs in parts of the world with Islamic law,Take the supreme leader the Ayatollah Khamenei from the Islamic republic of Iran as one example.

Ultra right wing fascist ideologies dont tolerate critics and Iran for 1 has a long track record of executing critics, i am sure they like useful idiots like you sticking up for their fascist ideology.

Does your Islam boogeyman include Islamic rule or political Islam?

www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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