freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:


The author of the hadith attributed the age claim from Ayeesha herself. That report has subsequently come into question.

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Does this actually change anything in relation to the question of the pedophilia claim? No. Why don't you want to address that FD? I'm happy for you to assume that she was 9.

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You ran away from the issues:

1/.If some muslims want to claim no affiliation with the degenerates, why don't they tackle the issue of violence, hatred and bigotry in the commands from allah, the teachings of muhammad and the verses in the qur'an?

2/.Now with regards to *balance* should the criticism be in proportion to the number of attacks carried out by the various extremists?

Or is that too balanced, as the muslim unfavourable judgment would be about a thousand times more than anyone else?

   

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 11:39pm:




Brian_Ross,

The Taliban ARE NOT sending suicide bombers to other regions of the country to blow up fellow moslems.

Allah's law declares that moslems, must never knowingly kill another moslem.

"......If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him."
Koran 4.92, 93

Therefore, it follows [using moslem logic] that the Taliban ARE NOT sending suicide bombers to other regions of the country to blow up fellow moslems.

Got it now ????





The Taliban ARE sending suicide bombers to other regions of the country to murder the kuffar.

That the kuffar in Pakistan call themselves, and think that that they are, moslems, is irrelevant to the Taliban.i
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Duh!!!!!!!!!!

moses wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 5:57pm:


I would ask the same of Christians.  Their holy book includes an entire "testament" where hatred, racism, violence, intolerance and so on are writ large for all to see.  Why haven't they removed The Old Testament from their Bible, Moses?

You ask of others, what you and your own co-religionists are unwilling to do.   Again I pointed out that you have forgotten Matthew 7:5 and John 8:7.   Obviously you are a bad Christian, Moses!   

Despite that, let us continue with your question.  How do you know they aren't tackling the violence within their midst?  The MSM and the Internet which you rely so much upon for your information don't publicise the efforts being made by many Muslims to eject the radical Islamists from their midst, yet we see them finding it harder and harder to preach in Mosques in the West.  In Muslim countries, the Takfiri Islamists attack and kill the moderates.   In some of those countries moderate regimes are being helped by the West, yet again you don't give them credit for their efforts against the radicals.   Indeed, you fail dismally to even consider that there are moderates within Islamd, instead you continually attack all Muslims, Moses.   

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Your criticisms should be directed against the extremists.  You make no differentiation.  To you, all Muslims are guilty of any crime committed by any Muslim, no matter how removed from it.  That is blatant bigotry, Moses, as I keep pointing out.   If Christians were persecuted the same way you treat Muslims, as some Muslims actually do, you'd be bleating about it without a doubt.   Again, read Matthew 7:5 and John 8:7 and consider your comments against Muslims in their light, Moses.

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Bad Muslims deserve every ounce of your vitriole, Moses.

Problem is, you make no differentiation between bad Muslims and good Muslims.   

polite_gandalf wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 1:48pm:



Why is that an acceptable definition ?

Many convicted paedophiles have also been married men.





polite_gandalf wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:


According to ISLAMIC texts, Mohammed was married to Aisha when she was six years old.

Their marriage was consummated when Aisha was 9 years old.

But of course, Mohammed had the agreement of Aisha's father, so it must have been OK.

Seeking to marry a six year old girl, had nothing to do with a sexual interest, by Mohammed, in a prepubescent little girl.          

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 7:26pm:



'Good' moslems, 'bad' moslems.

It all a load of shyte, Brian_Ross

These definitions, of 'good moslems' or 'bad moslems', is just a 'smoke screen', used by moslems, to confuse the infidels.



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FACT;


All moslems choose to associate themselves with the evil which ISLAM is.

All moslems, who say "I am a moslem.", are choosing to associate themselves with the religious violence which ISLAM promotes in the world - a religious violence which ISLAM calls, 'religious devotion'.

LOOK HERE ----->

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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That even if a moslem chooses to associate himself with what ISLAM is;

And even if ISLAM is an evil philosophy, moslems claim that they cannot be held responsible, for their association with the evil and violent behaviour which ISLAM encourages, condones, justifies, and legitimises.


The fault lays somewhere else.

But not with those who declare themselves to be moslems.

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:



You are an ignorant eeeeediot, Brian, imo.




Being a bigot means that a person [i.e. the bigot!] objects to others with differing opinion(s), expressing their opinion(s).

It does not mean that i am a bigot, BECAUSE i express an opinion, Brian.






Dictionary;


Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."