polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:



So mainstream shias and mainstream sunnis and mainstream allawites are fighting each other everywhere about something totally unrelated to Islam. And each group fighting whatever nonmuslims they live near to. Islam's bloody borders and all that. All a misunderstanding or a media conspiracy.
Islam has nuffin to do wiv nuffing, as the mainstream saying goes.
Got it.

Wherever moslems are fighting with other human beings moslems are always;
#1 - fighting against 'disbelievers' [even when those that they are fighting are nominally, other moslems!]
#2 - justified by ISLAM




Q.
Are moslems the real victims of ISLAM ?

A.
Is a criminal, the victim of his criminal motives ???







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Koran 2.98
Koran 47:8-11
Koran 4.74-76

The content of those three Koran verse groups, together, form a 'virtuous circle'.

Each verse group firstly confirms and then reinforces the ISLAMIC 'religious' paradigm, that;
1/    unbelief [in man] is a serious 'religious' crime, and that,
2/    the 'criminals' [i.e. the 'unbelievers'] deserve every punishment they get, and the 'criminals' are outside of the protection of law, and that,
3/    good moslems have an obligation to,    ....'fight in the cause of Allah' , and all good moslems are 'rightly guided' and are justified in their 'crime fighting'.




Those arguments [above] are 'logically' demonstrated...

1/    "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.].
Koran 2.98
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]

2/    "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/    "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah[/u] and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed, by ISLAM and by Allah, as being innately evil. Therefore those who reject 'Faith', are described as 'oppressors', and are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]



Once again, the 'theology' which ISLAM inculcates into the psyche of all moslems, is this;...

1/    'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.
2/    The 'criminals' have no 'lawful' protection whatsoever.
3/    The crime of 'unbelief' >> must << be punished, and punishment of 'unbelief' is morally justified, because, the 'unbelievers' are in league with evil forces, and are the oppressors of the people [stated in Koran 4.74-76].





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SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333935983/0#0
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Baronvonrort wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:


author: Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt - also known as David Myatt, British convert, former Neo Nazi, and now ex-muslim.

reliable much? 

Soren wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:04pm:


Of course there is.  As I said, stop erecting strawmen arguments and expect me to defend them.   

You really are proving your prejudice and hatred blinds you to reality, Soren. 

Gee thanks Baron, I totally didn't know that hamas are extremists who engage in terrorism. 

If there are (say) even just 1% of a population of 1.5 billion who are extremists and support violence, thats still a hell of a lot of individual anecdotes you can come up with - even though its only part of 1% of the entire population.

Trully I would be fascinated to know what drives a person to exercise such selectivity - to sift through and discard all the mountains evidence until they get to a radical former neo-nazi who portrays the "correct" hateful message of islam they want to present. Is it that you are trully that hateful? Or is it just that you are too lazy to go beyond jihadwatch and answering-islam (who will *ALWAYS* be the first hits of any search on islam), and are happy for them to force feed you their hate?

Yadda wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 8:47am:


Deliberate misconstruing of the truth though, for purposes of bigotry is though, Yadda.   

And that, my hate filled little fellow is exactly what you and the other Islamophobes do.

Again I ask, how many Muslims do you know personally?

Still waiting on an answer to that one...   

Correction Yadda, its on page 1:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

Soren wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 11:39am:


Again, I've never suggested it was, Soren, so stop the strawman erecting efforts.   

Treating Muslims as a uniform, monolithic group, is prejudiced.  Which is what we see all too often from you and your bigoted compatriots, Soren.