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Re: Evidence mainstream islam facilitates radicalism?
Reply #420 - Jun 10th, 2013 at 5:28am
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Soren wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
Charity and hospitality towards other Muslims, not towards the kuffar. The Koran is not about universal brotherhood but only about Muslim Brotherhood.


Charity and hospitality to strangers. It’s why Muslims from Bedouins to Pashtuns to Persians will offer travellers comfort and protection - often going to great lengths to do so for no reward. If you have never been treated with such kindness by a stranger, I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

The thing is though, what is the purpose of forums like this? To reinforce our own prejudice, or seek to understand?

The Koran is largely about Muslim brotherhood, true. But is also about brotherhood with the other Abrahamic religions, as it says.

Y can find the quotes.




An English friend recounts traveling in Jordan [backpacking] during his youth [1970's].

A local recognised him [in the street] as a Brit, and kindly invited him to come stay overnight in his home.

The local provided his guest with a meal, then later that evening explained that his wife was 'indisposed' due to her period, and asked would the Brit care to let his host roger him ?

One of the remnants of the local Sodomite tribe no doubt ?         Tongue

[p.s. my friend declined]
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #421 - Jun 10th, 2013 at 8:21am
 
Why did he reject such an offer, Y? That would be seen as unforgivably rude, you know.

Should we slay and let be slain the sodomites too?

Just wondering.

The old boy would have to go without.
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Reply #422 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 9:31pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:53am:
You even posted a video of that non-muslim douchebag arguing about what the terrorist did is entirely consistent with what the quran states.



Calling him a douchbag (are you an American mobster/college student now??) is just lame-o arse covering.

If you have an argument against what Pat Condell says, state it, addressing the points he makes.

But you cannot do this.

Your dismissing of what he says just confirms that he is right at least insofar as showing you up as having no way of countering him and so in the end you have absolutely no argument to mount other than 'douchebagging'.



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Reply #423 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 9:39pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 1:29am:
How can I argue with you Soren?


You scrutinise Islam with an open mind.

When you are able to do that, we will have a discussion. Until then, we are just arguing about the extent of your mental straight jacket - and my wilful rejection of Allah and Mo.


But what I am asking you is apostasy. So we will never have a proper discussion until either you leave Islam or I submit. I will not submit. You will not apostatise.

There you have all the Islam and Extremism Exposed board in a nutshell. Or indeed Islam and the West in a nutshell.


We will never ever see eye to eye until one of us buckles. We are incompatible.i
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Re: Evidence mainstream islam facilitates radicalism?
Reply #424 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 10:33pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 9:39pm:
You scrutinise Islam with an open mind.

When you are able to do that, we will have a discussion.


Thats rich.

Here's my open mind Soren: I acknowledge that violence and intolerance is justified as doctrinal by some muslims. I also acknowledge that peace and tolerance is justified as doctrinal by other muslims.

And here's your open mind: you acknowledge that violence and intolerance is justified as doctrinal by some muslims. You have singularly failed, despite many many opportunities, to acknowledge that peace and tolerance is justified as doctrinal by a great many muslims - the majority in fact.

Notice the difference?

But as if that was the worst of it. Most of your arguments consist of making up outrageous lies about muslims to push your agenda - from your claim about a knife wielding would-be muslim honour killer in Sweden (he was non-muslim), to your fantasies about muslims never blaming other muslims for harming non-muslims, to your laughable assertion about all translators in the islamic golden age being non-muslims. Honestly, how much more of a joke can you make yourself Soren?

And you dare sit there and lecture me about being open minded.

What a smacking joke.  Roll Eyes
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #425 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 10:57pm
 
I still don't see you scrutinising Islam.  You scrutinise me, the kuffar, but you are not scrutinising Islam.

All you do is say that the headhackers are misinterpreting Islam.  Big smacking deal. Who the bugger are you to decide what true Islam is? Their actions and justifying words speak louder than your weasel smacking excuses.






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Reply #426 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 11:13pm
 
Heres my scrutiny:

Islamic doctrine is interpreted by a majority of muslims as promoting peace and tolerance. This interpretation is advocated, promoted and advertised far more strongly than the minority who advocate the opposite interpretation. Like I said before, the only possible way you wouldn't be able to acknowledge this, is if you hold your hands over your ears and scream "lalalalala" - on the many many occassions that moderate muslim leaders stand up and push their case.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #427 - Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:17am
 
Soren wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 9:39pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 1:29am:
How can I argue with you Soren?


You scrutinise Islam with an open mind.

When you are able to do that, we will have a discussion. Until then, we are just arguing about the extent of your mental straight jacket - and my wilful rejection of Allah and Mo.


But what I am asking you is apostasy. So we will never have a proper discussion until either you leave Islam or I submit. I will not submit. You will not apostatise.

There you have all the Islam and Extremism Exposed board in a nutshell. Or indeed Islam and the West in a nutshell.


We will never ever see eye to eye until one of us buckles. We are incompatible.




Multicultural tolerance, innit.

Voltaire?
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Reply #428 - Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:56pm
 
I'm short of cash, so I'm taking bets that THIS family will not be losing their home.

There's NO WAY the socialists who run Britain and the Human Rights Commission in Europe will allow these people to be evicted.

Not a chance.

Needless to say ~ the whole damn lot of them should be deported to where their mentality is better suited to the cultural environment ~ the Middle East.

I'm embarrassed by what bloody fools the Brits have been making of themselves these past few decades.
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Reply #429 - Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:21pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:56pm:
I'm short of cash, so I'm taking bets that THIS family will not be losing their home.

There's NO WAY the socialists who run Britain and the Human Rights Commission in Europe will allow these people to be evicted.

Not a chance.

Needless to say ~ the whole damn lot of them should be deported to where their mentality is better suited to the cultural environment ~ the Middle East.

I'm embarrassed by what bloody fools the Brits have been making of themselves these past few decades.



Multicultural tolerance, innit.

Karnal?


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Reply #430 - Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:33pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:21pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:56pm:
I'm short of cash, so I'm taking bets that THIS family will not be losing their home.

There's NO WAY the socialists who run Britain and the Human Rights Commission in Europe will allow these people to be evicted.

Not a chance.

Needless to say ~ the whole damn lot of them should be deported to where their mentality is better suited to the cultural environment ~ the Middle East.

I'm embarrassed by what bloody fools the Brits have been making of themselves these past few decades.



Multicultural tolerance, innit.

Karnal?




Agreed. How can houses be that cheap in major UK cities?

Shurely shome mishtake.

These people will be a lot more expensive in social housing than the house they formerly owned.

Still, I’m sure the boys at the Longsight Police Station will get nice new lockers out of it - maybe a few bullet-proof vests that work. The ladies can live in their voluminous tents.

Money for jam, eh?
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Reply #431 - Jun 15th, 2013 at 9:07pm
 
What a dreadful arse-seeping fvckwit you are.

Carry on.

We all know you will.

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Reply #432 - Jun 15th, 2013 at 9:48pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 9:07pm:
What a dreadful arse-seeping fvckwit you are.

Carry on.

We all know you will.



Sorry, old chap, "arseepin"? From the Danish?

Thank you, old boy, thank you very.much indeed, but I really must ask you to try to speak more English. It will help you to learn the language faster. In our language, that could sound like something else entirely!

Now. Try with me. "I was born on a pirate ship."

Come on, old boy, don’t be shy. Hold your tongue and say it, there’s a good chap. We’ll "arseepin" together, shall we?

Jolly good.
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Reply #433 - Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
What did I tell ya, arse-seeping old fag. You will carry on.
And so you do.

As you were, old faggot, tell us all about the meaning of marxist foucauldian social imperialist it's all the same and there is nothing particular to see in this particular crazy arsefvcking outrage it's all as it has always been and who can tell the difference kinda sociological bollocks.



Go on. We know you can't do otherwise.



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Reply #434 - Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:27pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 11:13pm:
Heres my scrutiny:

Islamic doctrine is interpreted by a majority of muslims as promoting peace and tolerance.



They are lying low and are desperate not to catch the eye of the the more convinced Muslims who are going about  intimidating them and all the non-Muslims around by targeting anyone who raises a critical peep against Islam.

Not exactly 'promoting peace and tolerance' in my view. It's more like cowardly arse-covering.

Every time the West hits back against the Islamists you are immediately rallying with excuses and explanations and yes-buts.
You are the cowardly jihadists  -  jihadist, only cowardly and two-faced.

You are using freedom and liberal democracy as a cover to ferment completely anti-liberal and anti-democratic ideals -ie Islam. i
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