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May 13^th, 2013 at 1:24pm

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polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

The first World Trade Centre bombing was in 1993 - 20 years ago.
How long do they need to realise that they have a problem?

Of course they realise there is a problem. Muslims communities in the west have been on the front foot all along - promoting peace and tolerance, and being proactive to prevent violence in the name of islam.

"We moslems are a virtuous people..."

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

"Can't you bigots understand that we moslems, are the virtuous people, who forbid wrong-doing, and believe in Allah ?

And when someone who purports to be a moslem, commits some atrocity, some murder, mayhem, intimidation, threats of violence,
OR CARRIES PLACARDS ON MAIN-STREET THREATENING TO BEHEAD PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT WE BELIEVE,
....we virtuous moslems won't do a damn thing about it!

Can't you bigots understand that we MOSLEMS DO NOT DO, CRIMINAL ACTS !?

We moslems, are the virtuous people.

Can't you bigots understand that ???!!!

So stop criticising our community, you bigot !"

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Can't you people recognise the duplicitous nature of moslems yet ?

"Can't you bigots understand that we MOSLEMS DO NOT DO, CRIMINAL ACTS !?"

THIS IS THE TRUTH....

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

The murder of those who reject ISLAM, is 'permitted by Sharia law'.

It is 'LAWFUL'. <---- i.e. NO CRIME!

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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THIS IS THE TRUTH....
By declaring;

"I am a moslem."

;

.....a moslem, every moslem, is directly associating themselves with the 'religious' violence which ISLAM justifies, legitimises, promotes and encourages [as a philosophy].

And every moslem is thereby associating >> themselves << with those violent acts which are purposefully being done, 'in the name of Allah'.i

Koran 2.98
Koran 47:8-11
Koran 4.74-76

The content of those three Koran verse groups, together, form a 'virtuous circle'.

Each verse group firstly confirms and then reinforces the ISLAMIC 'religious' paradigm, that;
1/ unbelief [in man] is a serious 'religious' crime, and that,
2/ the 'criminals' [i.e. the 'unbelievers'] deserve every punishment they get, and the 'criminals' are outside of the protection of law, and that,
3/ good moslems have an obligation to, ....'fight in the cause of Allah' , and all good moslems are 'rightly guided' and are justified in their 'crime fighting'.

Those arguments [above] are 'logically' demonstrated...

1/ "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.].
Koran 2.98
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]

2/ "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/ "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah[/u] and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed, by ISLAM and by Allah, as being innately evil. Therefore those who reject 'Faith', are described as 'oppressors', and are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]

Once again, the 'theology' which ISLAM inculcates into the psyche of all moslems, is this;...

1/ 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.
2/ The 'criminals' have no 'lawful' protection whatsoever.
3/ The crime of 'unbelief' >> must << be punished, and punishment of 'unbelief' is morally justified, because, the 'unbelievers' are in league with evil forces, and are the oppressors of the people [stated in Koran 4.74-76].

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ONCE AGAIN!....

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #1 - May 13^th, 2013 at 1:32pm

WHAT DOES THE 'RELIGION' OF ISLAM DO, TO THE PSYCHE OF HUMAN BEINGS ?

This [below] are typical examples of the [resultant] worldview which ISLAM, pure ISLAM, UNDENIABLY inculcates into the moslem psyche....

In the UK, a moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

AND;

Speaking in the UK, publicly, AND THEN PRIVATELY, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

AND;

Watch the words come out of the lips of Anjem Choudary a moslem community leader in the UK....

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KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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THE QUESTION WHICH I WOULD LIKE OUR AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT, AND ALL AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENTARIANS ANSWER;

WHY, do we permit these people to live among us ???

'these people' = = self declared moslems

To permit these people, self declared moslems, to live among us is insanity, imo.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #2 - May 13^th, 2013 at 2:43pm

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 1:24pm:

The duplicitous, AND DECEITFUL, moslem community whine

I though alcohol was strictly forbidden within Islam, Yadda?

Ooops, oh, you mean the different sort of wine! Roll Eyes

I wasn't aware that Gandalf was an entire "community".

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry? Roll Eyes

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21879 A cat with a view	Re: The duplicitous, AND DECEITFUL, moslem community w Reply #3 - May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ? And perhaps reflect upon your own obsequiousness towards moslems and everything ISLAMIC ? Dictionary; obsequious = = obedient or attentive to an excessive or servile degree.
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Reply #4 - May 13^th, 2013 at 4:23pm

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In the UK, a moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

Gandalf does not endorse this view.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #5 - May 13^th, 2013 at 4:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

I though alcohol was strictly forbidden within Islam?

Muslims do say alcohol is haram yet a glass of warm camel urine is ok or halal because Muhammad prescribed it..

The Quran does say alcohol is ok, i guess its like that no compulsion in religion verse that has been abrogated, the Quran is full of contradictions yet muslims will claim there are none perhaps that is due to ignorance or could it be a result of abrogation with earlier contradicting verses, read the Muhsin Khan translation by ticking boxes on left, best to read all translations.
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And from the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good provision.Indeed that is a sign for people who reason
www.quran.com/16/67

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #6 - May 13^th, 2013 at 4:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

Quote:

In the UK, a moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

Gandalf does not endorse this view.

Gandalf-
Have you read the 600 page Qadri fatwa that was supposed to outlaw Islamic terror?

If terror is unislamic then why the need for a 600 page fatwa to outlaw it?

I got to about page 6 when i noticed he took 5/32 out of context, why do muslims leave out the first bit which starts with we decreed upon the children of Israel when citing that verse?
5/32 applies to the filthy yahud!
www.quran.com/5/32

The next verse 5/33 does apply to muslims.
www.quran.com/5/33

Why does allah not forgive shirk, do you think being punished for all eternity is just for a insignificant crime,can someone who will make you burn for all eternity really be called the most merciful of those who show mercy?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #8 - May 13^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

Gandalf does not endorse this view.

this view...

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In the UK, a moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

Gandalf,

So as a self declared moslem

- you are >> also << declaring that it is 'lawful' for you to reject ISLAMIC 'values' ?

And you are >> also << declaring that it is 'lawful' for you to reject what Allah declares [for all eternity], concerning those persons who reject ISLAM ?

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This [below] is what ISLAM, and what Allah declares, concerning those who reject ISLAM;

".....If only the People of the Book had faith, ....most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

In Koran 47.008, Allah is effectively repeating too, that;

"....the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

That those who reject ISLAM, are outside the protection of law.

So what should moslems do ?

How should moslems behave towards 'disbelievers' - whenever they have that opportunity ?

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #9 - May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda. Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - May 13^th, 2013 at 7:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda.

Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

Brian_Ross,

The bigotry of calling me a bigot, because i criticise ISLAM's inherent violence.

Why can't i criticise moslem religious bigotry if i want to Brian???

Are you a bigot or something ?

e.g. of moslem religious bigots #1,
IMAGE...

London, moslem street protests.
Moslem religious bigots demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion', to kill people who 'insult' their religion,
.....BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT MOSLEMS BELIEVE.

e.g. of moslem religious bigots #2,
IMAGE...

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslem religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

iThe bigotry of calling me a bigot, yet YOU, wilfully ignoring the evidence of ISLAM's inherent bigotry towards 'disbelievers'.
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Yadda wrote on May 12^th, 2013 at 10:32pm:

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Attacking people because of their religious affiliations is bigotry, Soren.

And [moslems] attacking people because [non-moslems] religious affiliation, is not with ISLAM, is religious bigotry, Brian.

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Reply #11 - May 13^th, 2013 at 8:42pm

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda?

Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

Brian_Ross,

The bigotry of calling me a bigot, because i criticise ISLAM's inherent violence.

No, I call you a bigot because your claim that Islam is inherently violent is based upon prejudice.

So, when will we see you criticising other religions because of their inherent violence and chauvinism? Never? Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - May 13^th, 2013 at 9:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda?

Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

Brian_Ross,

The bigotry of calling me a bigot, because i criticise ISLAM's inherent violence.

No, I call you a bigot because

......

your claim that Islam is inherently violent is based upon prejudice

.

So, when will we see you criticising other religions because of their inherent violence and chauvinism? Never? Roll Eyes

The duplicitous, AND DECEITFUL....i

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 004.144

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse....."
Koran 3.118

"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

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Reply #13 - May 13^th, 2013 at 9:57pm

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda?

Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

Brian_Ross,

The bigotry of calling me a bigot, because i criticise ISLAM's inherent violence.

No, I call you a bigot because of your claim that Islam is inherently violent is based upon prejudice.

So, when will we see you criticising other religions because of their inherent violence and chauvinism? Never? Roll Eyes

The duplicitous, AND DECEITFUL....

According to whom? You?

BTW, how can a religion, which is after all a set of philosophical insights and teachings be "duplicitous and deceitful"?

Wouldn't that mean it was in fact lying to it's own followers?

And, if it was lying to its followers, wouldn't that mean they are victims, just as much as anybody else, perhaps even more so?

The adherents to a religion might be, "duplicitous and deceitful" but any religion which has a proud intellectual tradition which is as open and clear, as Islam obviously can't be, "duplicitous and deceitful".

Particularly when you keep quoting it to try and prove your point...

Yet more evidence of your bigotry, Yadda 'cause in reality, you're not attacking the religion, you're attacking the followers.

So, every Muslim is, in your opinion, "duplicitous and deceitful"? Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - May 13^th, 2013 at 11:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 9:57pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Perhaps you need to get over your bigotry, Brian_Ross ?

And which "bigotry" would that be, Yadda?

Care to demonstrate where I desire to persecute people on the basis of their religion? Mmm? Roll Eyes

You're scrabbling to find some means to attack me because you're realising that your own bigotry has been exposed and is now being criticised.

I am sure you'll once more resort to some Crayon scribblings to try and attack what I've said. Roll Eyes

Brian_Ross,

The bigotry of calling me a bigot, because i criticise ISLAM's inherent violence.

No, I call you a bigot because of your claim that Islam is inherently violent is based upon prejudice.

So, when will we see you criticising other religions because of their inherent violence and chauvinism? Never? Roll Eyes

The duplicitous, AND DECEITFUL....

According to whom? You?

BTW, how can a religion, which is after all a set of philosophical insights and teachings be "duplicitous and deceitful"?

Wouldn't that mean it was in fact lying to it's own followers?

Yes.

Well done!

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And, if it was lying to its followers, wouldn't that mean they are victims, just as much as anybody else, perhaps even more so?

Is a wolf a 'victim', of THE trap, set to catch it ???

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The adherents to a religion might be, "duplicitous and deceitful" but any religion which has a proud intellectual tradition which is as open and clear, as Islam obviously can't be, "duplicitous and deceitful".

That is merely intellectual gobbledegook, and lies.

And it is merely a reflection of ISLAM's own self deception.i
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Particularly when you keep quoting it to

try and prove your point

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The problem for people like you, is that i am proving my point.

What point ?

LOOK HERE ----->

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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Yet more evidence of your bigotry, Yadda 'cause in reality, you're not attacking the religion, you're attacking the followers.

So, every Muslim is, in your opinion, "duplicitous and deceitful"? Roll Eyes

YOUR ARGUMENT....
Some moslems may be innocent people.....

A moslem is defined, as a person who chooses ISLAM.

A moslem is a moslem.

A moslem chooses to remain within the ISLAMIC 'family'.

Our choices in this life reveal who and what we are.

If wolves have repeatedly attacked a farmers sheep.

Is the farmer going to hold fire, and not shoot a wolf that he sees on his farm - because maybe, this wolf, was an 'innocent' wolf ???

Is that logical ?

Moslems have murdered God's children, his 'sheep'.

What is God going to do, to those who have wantonly, and ruthlessly, killed his children ?

This life is a test, that is all.

Our choices in this life reveal who and what we are.

Moslems too, are revealed, by their choices.

What is real, 'here' ?

We, are all spirit beings, locked within these clay temples.

Our choices, are the most real things, 'here'.

And our choices here, will have consequences.

Its not rocket science.

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We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

Aristotle

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"It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."

Professor Dumbledore to Harry.
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - J K Rowling

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There is nothing that is wrong, that cannot be cured by what is right.

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What we believe, determines how we [will] act.
Yadda

Is that suggestion, so un-believable ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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