Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 11:03pm:






Who is a moslem ?

            





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I choose a different path.

And i will be judged too.





Psalms 32:1
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2  Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 11:03pm:






Is a wolf a 'victim', of THE trap, set to catch it ???               


ISLAM/Allah, makes promises to moslems....

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120

"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily [God] knoweth all that ye did;"
Koran 16.27








The pleasures and riches of this world are alluring to idolaters and to moslems.

Dictionary;
idolatry = = worship of idols.




God's message to mankind, has ALWAYS been, that [to please our God] we should discern between good, and evil, and that we should separate 'the precious from the vile'.

And that is exactly what God is, and has been doing, with mankind.      .....his 'harvest'.

And in the wisdom of God's plan, we, mankind, have 'conveniently' sorted ourselves, in to the camps of the 'holy' and the 'vile'.



2 Timothy 3:1
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;






Zephaniah 2:3
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.


Matthew 6:33
...seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;


2 Timothy 2:19
....the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.




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Revelation 14:14
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


Joel 3:9
Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
10  Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
11  Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
12  Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
13  Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:


You have disproven nothing.
There is a thread on sura 16/67 here-
www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1347337305

So why do muslims leave out the first part of 5/32 which starts with We decreed upon the children of Israel?

Muslims leave this bit out because nobody will believe that muslims are called the children of Israel.

If muslims are the children of Israel then what are the Palestinians whingeing about?

www.quran.com/5/32

People can look at other verses that mention children of israel in the quran to see that 5/32 applies to the yahud and not muslims.
www.quran.com/search?q=children+of+israel

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:



"And the same did Ibrahim enjoin on his sons and (so did) Yaqoub. O my sons! surely Allah has chosen for you (this) faith, therefore die not unless you are Muslims."
Koran 2.132

Moslems cannot be the 'children of Israel' [...Israel, which is Jacob, the son of Isaac].

Moslems insist that the moslem lineage, and Mohammed's lineage is through Ishmael - NOT Israel [Jacob].

Dictionary;
Ishmaelite = = a descendant of Ishmael, a son of Abraham and Hagar (Gen. 16:12), and in Islamic belief the traditional ancestor of Muhammad and of the Arab peoples.

The 'children of Israel' lineage cannot be through both Ishmael, and Israel [Jacob].

The 'children of Israel' lineage is only through Israel [Jacob, the son of Isaac].





The Koran is a fabrication.
The Sana'a mosque manuscripts prove it.

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cited....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1362655638/79#79




Mohammed wrote the Koran, in the form that it took, to try to give his new religion, ISLAM, validity - trying to portray ISLAM as a continuation of Judaism and Christianity.

And in Mohammed's fabricated document, he claimed that Abraham, and Hagar, and Ishmael, and king David, etc, were all 'moslems'.

There was no Koran [no ISLAMIC or 'moslem' 'heritage'], before Mohammed wrote it.

And he wrote it having full access to the Jewish and Christian scriptures, through those communities living in Arabia.

Abraham was no moslem [a follower of Allah].

That claim is merely a 'confection' of Mohammed.

There is no mention of a God called Allah, or of a 'moslem', until the Mohammed wrote the Koran.

There is no reference in Jewish scripture to the phonetic word 'alah', as a name for God.


Psalms 83:18
.....whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.







an eye-opening analysis of terrorism in Europe
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1294223444/46#46
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polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 11:20pm:



Gandalf,

I placed my reply in a more appropriate thread, here.....

The inerrant Koran???
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1295396564/3#3

....and the following two posts

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 11:20pm:


I think the jews might disagree with being called "The first muslims'.

Mohammad tried to impose himself on the Jewish religion as a jewish prophet, he fasted on the day of atonement and adopted many dietry and dress rules from the jews hoping they would accept him.

The jews rejected Mohammad claims he was a prophet in their religion,Mohammad killed the jews and has hated them ever since, this is covered in the sira of Ibn Hisham amongst other books.

Mohammad was a thief (how did he finance the ummah in Medina was it highway robbery?) who stole the jewish and christian prophets to give his cult credibility amongst the gullible.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 5:42pm:


Well done Baron, just ignore everything I've said about it.

For the utpteenth time - Jacob (Israel) and his children are specifically referred to as muslims who have had the message of God revealed to them - in the verses I've already quoted.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:


Ya don't say.

Heres a sharp one here folks.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:25am:






Baron,

What ISLAM Mohammed did was to attempt to 'gut' Judaism and Christianity, by stealing their theological narratives and their prominent iconic personages, to try give ISLAM some theological validity;

moslems will claim, e.g.

etc, etc.



But today it is becoming clear to many, that ISLAM Mohammed simply 'hijacked' the main narratives and the prominent iconic personages within Judaism and Christianity.

And then Mohammed repudiated those two 'source' Abrahamic faiths, and claimed that the theological sources of Judaism and Christianity had been corrupted,
....and that ISLAM was now the only true and pure Abrahamic faith.

And that to please God, true 'believers' need only embrace ISLAM, Allah's perfect religion.

So, with its theological 'hijacking' of Judaism and Christianity complete, ISLAM Mohammed then repudiated those two 'source' Abrahamic faiths.





Mohammed's attempt to theologically 'gut' Judaism and Christianity, has been successful.

But, only for those persons who choose to believe Mohammed's falsehood and 'slight of hand',
i.e. moslems.

To others who recognise what Mohammed is attempting [and why], the integrity of Judaism and Christianity remains intact.





Mohammed, in his nature, was a pirate.

Does anyone doubt this ?

Dictionary;
pirate = =
1 a person who attacks and robs ships at sea.
2 a person who appropriates or reproduces the work of another for profit without permission