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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2013 at 5:49pm violence? peh!1 not violence, just letting off steam against the states thugs! not the same at all! grey we can hear your rationalisation hamster wheel squeak.
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #16 - May 15^th, 2013 at 5:55pm Quote: when Fascists complain about "a group that uses violence and force to shut down people with opposing ideas to them". nope grey i couldnt give a toss about free speech im just calling you out and all the people like you for this kind of inconsistent shite
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #17 - May 15^th, 2013 at 5:56pm violence? nah, just lettin off a little steam against some leb thugs
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Re: Difference between Germany and Japan
Reply #18 - May 15^th, 2013 at 8:33pm

JC Denton wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 5:56pm:

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violence? nah, just lettin off a little steam against some leb thugs Cool

Except that the Leb wasn't a thug, just some innocent passer-by who happened to look Lebanese. Do you need it explained how that's different to punching out self declared wannabe Nazis? Dismissed.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2013 at 7:04am cool grey but we all know now youre all in favour of violence against people you don't like/disagree with and rationalise it out by saying its just "letting off steam" (not violence at all!!!) so what exactly makes you different from the nazis besides your choice of target?
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #21 - May 16^th, 2013 at 9:16am the nose knows
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Reply #22 - May 16^th, 2013 at 10:27am

... wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 8:21am:

Grey wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

Do you need it explained how that's different to punching out self declared wannabe Nazis? Dismissed.

yes please. And while you're at it, would you mind explaining how you can tell he wasn't a thug?

Yes I would mind explaining. We all know what went down in Cronulla that day. He was being beaten for being Lebanese.

Anarchists beat up Nazis. We can tell they're Nazis because they wave Nazi flags, wear the uniform, walk the walk and talk the talk. We are the lovers of freedom, they are the lovers of oppression. Natural enemies innit. You have to keep the rats down otherwise they become a plague.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2013 at 10:38am "We are the lovers of freedom, they are the lovers of oppression. Natural enemies innit. You have to keep the rats down otherwise they become a plague." ~ Joe Goebbels 1935
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Difference between Germany and Japan Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2013 at 11:23am Grey wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 10:27am: [Yes I would mind explaining. I suspected as much.
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Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2013 at 3:57pm

How much time and money is being devoted to rooting out 96 year old alleged war criminals?
What's it going to prove? Will they be compos mentis enough to know what the fck is going on? Or is it just for the gratification of the witch hunters? Were they even compos mentis at the time?
I was brought up on the horrors of Auschwitch (?) and Belsen but frankly now today I'd sooner see them devote the resources to finding the graffitti vandals, sexual predators and other desecrators of social order.

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Reply #26 - May 18^th, 2013 at 4:51am

Grey wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 5:56pm:

http://cynicalreview.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/cronulla.jpg

violence? nah, just lettin off a little steam against some leb thugs Cool

Except that the Leb wasn't a thug, just some innocent passer-by who happened to look Lebanese. Do you need it explained how that's different to punching out self declared wannabe Nazis? Dismissed.

Wait, let me guess... Does your reasoning involve some convoluted nonsense about how it somehow isn't assault as long as you disagree with their politics?

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Reply #27 - May 18^th, 2013 at 4:52am

Grey wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

Anarchists beat up Nazis. We can tell they're Nazis because they wave Nazi flags, wear the uniform, walk the walk and talk the talk. We are the lovers of freedom, they are the lovers of oppression. Natural enemies innit. You have to keep the rats down otherwise they become a plague.

Holyshit... I called it.

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Reply #28 - May 18^th, 2013 at 8:20am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Nietzsche's description and analysis of slave morality is the most fundamental insight of the (post)modern era. For example, Grey seems to think he's some kind of freedom fighter who holds the key to true justice, yet he is a most reactive person. He reacts against 'power structures' and has little ideas of his own, yet he calls himself the 'good' and the 'just.' He sits, waiting, for someone, somewhere to assert some power, and then he pounces on it and claims to be fighting the good fight.

However, I don't blame Grey and his ilk too much (this includes the whole plethora of slave moralists - feminists, socialists, liberals, reactive conservatives, pessimists). When the dominant ethos of the era tells you that negative freedom, 'freedom from oppression', and equality encapsulate and embody the absolute 'good', then you can't blame the sheep for believing such things. There will always be sheep and herds.

The overcoming, acceptance, and affirmation of pain, suffering, hardship, conflict, and misery is a personal journey, and not a political program.

What is negative freedom?

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Re: Difference between Germany and Japan
Reply #29 - May 18^th, 2013 at 8:50am

Grey wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

... wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 8:21am:

Grey wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

Do you need it explained how that's different to punching out self declared wannabe Nazis? Dismissed.

yes please. And while you're at it, would you mind explaining how you can tell he wasn't a thug?

Yes I would mind explaining. We all know what went down in Cronulla that day. He was being beaten for being Lebanese.

Anarchists beat up Nazis. We can tell they're Nazis because they wave Nazi flags, wear the uniform, walk the walk and talk the talk. We are the lovers of freedom, they are the lovers of oppression. Natural enemies innit. You have to keep the rats down otherwise they become a plague.

Lebanese also bring a lot of problems on themselves with their overall negative contribution since turning up (principally unasked) to Australia.

Australian mainstream society tends to have an overall negative view of Lebanese for various reasons.

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