Australian Politics Forum - Who will be Treasurer?

Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38632 Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #45 - May 18^th, 2013 at 3:59pm warrigal wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 3:46pm: Poll G'day Warrigal. Could you modify the Poll you added to reflect what I asked in the OP, which was who will be Treasurer if Abbott wins in September ?
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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #46 - May 18^th, 2013 at 5:23pm

Socrates wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 11:27am:

Dnarever wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 11:27pm:

Abbott and Hockey - What a joke the whole world will be laughing at us.

I think "the whole world " has guffawed it's guts sore seeing what the disaster the present mob has created during their time in office. You can only laugh so much, then you start to pity, and they've been pitying Australia for quite some time now.

you don't get out much do you? Talk to many people overseas? Or do you just start to laugh every time you look in the mirror?

I have many relatives in various countries, and they have all at some point or other in the last 3 or 4 yrs, commented on how lucky we are in Australia with our government ...

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58392 Here Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #47 - May 18^th, 2013 at 5:46pm If the Liberals win it will be Hockey - I know it sounds like a bad joke but that is what happens to shadow treasurers who form government. A vote for the conservative is a vote to put the two biggest economic num nuts into control of the economy that we have ever had, and that is a fact.
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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #48 - May 18^th, 2013 at 5:49pm

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Socrates wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 11:27am:

Dnarever wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 11:27pm:

Abbott and Hockey - What a joke the whole world will be laughing at us.

I think "the whole world " has guffawed it's guts sore seeing what the disaster the present mob has created during their time in office. You can only laugh so much, then you start to pity, and they've been pitying Australia for quite some time now.

you don't get out much do you? Talk to many people overseas? Or do you just start to laugh every time you look in the mirror?

I have many relatives in various countries, and they have all at some point or other in the last 3 or 4 yrs, commented on how lucky we are in Australia with our government ...

I think they are saying 'how lucky we are in Australia'. I doubt very much they add 'with our govt'. I cant imagine too many people would ever laud a govt

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #49 - May 18^th, 2013 at 6:05pm Quote: Who will be Treasurer? This bloke would be better than Swan......
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38632 Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #50 - May 18^th, 2013 at 6:07pm Swagman wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 6:05pm: Quote: Who will be Treasurer? This bloke would be better than Swan...... http://images.smh.com.au/2011/12/29/2864732/ipad-art-wide-red-20dog1-420x0.jpg ....and better than Abbott/Hockey. (See how easy, and stupid, that was?)
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Reply #51 - May 18^th, 2013 at 6:08pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:23pm:

Socrates wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 11:27am:

Dnarever wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 11:27pm:

Abbott and Hockey - What a joke the whole world will be laughing at us.

I think "the whole world " has guffawed it's guts sore seeing what the disaster the present mob has created during their time in office. You can only laugh so much, then you start to pity, and they've been pitying Australia for quite some time now.

you don't get out much do you? Talk to many people overseas? Or do you just start to laugh every time you look in the mirror?

I have many relatives in various countries, and they have all at some point or other in the last 3 or 4 yrs, commented on how lucky we are in Australia with our government ...

I think they are saying 'how lucky we are in Australia'. I doubt very much they add 'with our govt'. I cant imagine too many people would ever laud a govt

Yeah, right. If the Libs win in September, there'll be so much lauding going on this forum will look like a Buck Palace garden party.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58392 Here Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #52 - May 18^th, 2013 at 9:45pm Swagman wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 6:05pm: Quote: Who will be Treasurer? This bloke would be better than Swan...... http://images.smh.com.au/2011/12/29/2864732/ipad-art-wide-red-20dog1-420x0.jpg Maybe but how does that line up with the fact that Swan is probably twice as competant as Hockey?
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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #53 - May 18^th, 2013 at 10:32pm

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

I go for Turnbull he is a business man self made millionaire.. nothing wrong with that..

and now the labs accept millionaires in parliament..???????? its ok to be one as treasurer I would think..in fact after this disaster
anything would be better

..

FIRSTLY, which
"disaster"
?

Quote:

Former prime minister John Howard gave the economy a big tick
before Treasurer Wayne Swan delivered his sixth budget on Tuesday night.

Mr Howard told a mortgage and finance industry convention in Sydney
the economy was resilient
despite the belief that it was ''running on empty''.

In an off-the-cuff speech on Friday, reported by trade website The Adviser, Mr Howard was upbeat about the economy.

''When the Prime Minister and the Treasurer and others tell you that the Australian economy is doing better than most - they are right,''
Mr Howard said.

The low unemployment rate
had surprised him, he said.

''We are still fortunate that we have an unemployment rate with a five in front of it. I wouldn't have thought that was going to be possible a few years ago, and I don't think many people would.
Our unemployment has remained pleasingly quite low
,'' Mr Howard said.

''And our debt to GDP ratio, the amount of money we owe, to the strength of our economy, is still a lot better than most other countries,'' he said.

He said Australia's economy was better than the economies of Japan, the US and most European countries.

This is in stark contrast to his protege and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's assessment of doom and gloom on Monday
.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/resilient-economy-in-better-shape-t...

Malcolm Turnbull is "streets ahead" in credentials for the role of Federal Treasurer - than anyone else on the Abbott front bench

... but too big a threat to be breathing down Abbott's neck as the party leader

He is less of a danger kept as communications spokesperson - pushing up-hill the blancmange they laughingly call their NBN model and policy
Abbott knows Turnbull will never be taken seriously in ANY role - as long as he is straddled with THAT one

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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #54 - May 18^th, 2013 at 10:37pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 10:32pm:

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

I go for Turnbull he is a business man self made millionaire.. nothing wrong with that..

and now the labs accept millionaires in parliament..???????? its ok to be one as treasurer I would think..in fact after this disaster
anything would be better

..

FIRSTLY, which
"disaster"
?

Quote:

Former prime minister John Howard gave the economy a big tick
before Treasurer Wayne Swan delivered his sixth budget on Tuesday night.

Mr Howard told a mortgage and finance industry convention in Sydney
the economy was resilient
despite the belief that it was ''running on empty''.

In an off-the-cuff speech on Friday, reported by trade website The Adviser, Mr Howard was upbeat about the economy.

''When the Prime Minister and the Treasurer and others tell you that the Australian economy is doing better than most - they are right,''
Mr Howard said.

The low unemployment rate
had surprised him, he said.

''We are still fortunate that we have an unemployment rate with a five in front of it. I wouldn't have thought that was going to be possible a few years ago, and I don't think many people would.
Our unemployment has remained pleasingly quite low
,'' Mr Howard said.

''And our debt to GDP ratio, the amount of money we owe, to the strength of our economy, is still a lot better than most other countries,'' he said.

He said Australia's economy was better than the economies of Japan, the US and most European countries.

This is in stark contrast to his protege and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's assessment of doom and gloom on Monday
.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/resilient-economy-in-better-shape-t...

Malcolm Turnbull is "streets ahead" in credentials for the role of Federal Treasurer - than anyone else on the Abbott front bench

... but too big a threat to be breathing down Abbott's neck as the party leader

He is less of a danger kept as communications spokesperson - pushing up-hill the blancmange they laughingly call their NBN model and policy
Abbott knows Turnbull will never be taken seriously in ANY role - as long as he is straddled with THAT one

ONLY

LEFTIES

BELIEVE THE

CRAP

IN THE

SMH.

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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #55 - May 19^th, 2013 at 12:52am

cods wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 10:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 10:32pm:

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

I go for Turnbull he is a business man self made millionaire.. nothing wrong with that..

and now the labs accept millionaires in parliament..???????? its ok to be one as treasurer I would think..in fact after this disaster
anything would be better

..

FIRSTLY, which
"disaster"
?

Quote:

Former prime minister John Howard gave the economy a big tick
before Treasurer Wayne Swan delivered his sixth budget on Tuesday night.

Mr Howard told a mortgage and finance industry convention in Sydney
the economy was resilient
despite the belief that it was ''running on empty''.

In an off-the-cuff speech on Friday, reported by trade website The Adviser, Mr Howard was upbeat about the economy.

''When the Prime Minister and the Treasurer and others tell you that the Australian economy is doing better than most - they are right,''
Mr Howard said.

The low unemployment rate
had surprised him, he said.

''We are still fortunate that we have an unemployment rate with a five in front of it. I wouldn't have thought that was going to be possible a few years ago, and I don't think many people would.
Our unemployment has remained pleasingly quite low
,'' Mr Howard said.

''And our debt to GDP ratio, the amount of money we owe, to the strength of our economy, is still a lot better than most other countries,'' he said.

He said Australia's economy was better than the economies of Japan, the US and most European countries.

This is in stark contrast to his protege and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's assessment of doom and gloom on Monday
.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/resilient-economy-in-better-shape-t...

ONLY

LEFTIES

BELIEVE THE

CRAP

IN THE

SMH.

.

You could print former Prime Minister,
John Howard's speech
on the widely envied healthy state of the Australian economy in the SMH, The Australian - or on a used sanitory napkin

The MESSAGE is still the same

Trying to imply Howard talks BULLSH!T here - based on the source *
- is
a pretty LIMP-DICKED argument

*( ... mind YOU, you won't find a Murdoch publication quoting Howard on THIS occasion)

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #56 - May 19^th, 2013 at 1:33am Meanwhile, out in the real world, the economy is in nothing like the amazing shape that post would have you believe. We are recruiting for a mid tier $180k role down there and I have been stunned at the amount of candidates made redundant in the last 6 months....
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Reply #57 - May 19^th, 2013 at 1:58am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 1:33am:

We are recruiting for a mid tier $180k role down there and I have been stunned at the amount of candidates made redundant in the last 6 months....

If these candidates are applying for a $180k role it's no wonder so many have been made redundant. They're too expensive. It's time to give everyone a pay cut.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Who will be Treasurer? Reply #58 - May 19^th, 2013 at 2:09am That's market rate. It's for the head of finance position. Most of those on the market have come out of $200k roles but are willing to drop down to get a role. The economy is not in an awesome shape that people would have you believe.
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Re: Who will be Treasurer?
Reply #59 - May 19^th, 2013 at 2:50am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 2:09am:

The ( ... Australian) economy is not in an awesome shape that people would have you believe.

We ALL know Howard had a bit of form in being less than forthcoming with the truth - but we doubt that this "talent" now extends to giving a Labor Government any tick of approval in economic management - where any tick of approval is not warranted

Looking at the facts and figures ( ... not to mention a AAA credit rating consensus) he had no other options

THERE HAS been a lot of misinformation around lately regarding the situation Australia currently finds itself in economically.

The fact of the matter is you will struggle to find a country that is more envied for its financial position than Australia.

The Global Financial Crisis that struck in September 2008 with the collapse of Lehman Brothers was the biggest financial shock the world has seen since the Great Depression. Global credit markets froze, global economic growth fell off a cliff, unemployment began to slide and people started losing their homes and the quality of life they were used to.

Through it all Australia remained top of the heap on almost every count.

The Government and the Treasurer have been talking about the attributes we should be proud of, when it comes to our economy, for years.

They are right when they say we have:

■low debt;
■low unemployment;
■AAA credit rating from all three major ratings agencies;
■low inflation; and
■trend growth

Australia’s debt is the second lowest in the OECD. Gross debt stands at 28.9% of GDP.

This compares to Japan at 224%, Greece at 193.2%, Portugal at 133.1%, Italy at 129.6%, Ireland at 127.7%, United States at 113%, France at 108.2%, UK at 110.4%, Canada at 85.5%, Spain at 100.2% and Germany at 86.2%.

We do not have high levels of debt. It is a red herring.

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Poll
Question: TREASURER
* This poll has now closed *
SWAN 3 (23.1%) Abbott 0 (0.0%) Turnbull 2 (15.4%) Gillard 0 (0.0%) Angry Anderson 1 (7.7%) Peter Garrett 0 (0.0%) Hockey 7 (53.8%) Bishop 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 13 « Created by: warrigal on: May 18^th, 2013 at 3:46pm »