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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #105 - May 20^th, 2013 at 5:19pm

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

oh that's a goodie phil... now you are bringing intellectual dishonesty to the table as well!!! Yes, unemployment was higher in the early years of howard because he inherited high rates and then lowered them. Swan inherited record low rats of UNDER 4% and now it is nearly 6%please do not go the way of adelcrow and DNA and resort to being a moron.

now who's being dishonest? why not give the real rate instead of saying nearly 6%? tut tut longie ... your hypocrisy is shining through again.

Labor inherited Rates over 4.5% and not under 4%.

In mid 2008 under Labor rates went under 4%.

Around 12 months earlier unemployment was over 5.5% in 2006.

The rate is currently about 5.5%.

The obvious conclusion from the actual data is that the Lowest was factually under Labor but in general the rate is cycling in about the same levels in 2005 - 2007 as it is now.

except that unemployment reached 3.9% under howard and was trending down at the time Rudd was elected.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/unemployment-rate

4.2% was the lowest the Libs got and it was 4.6% in November 2007. March 2008 it was 4.0%

If you look at the downward trend you mentioned it goes back to 1992, it was also trending down when Howard came into power.

I love how when unemployment goes down it is Swan or Keating but when it goes up it is Howard.

It destroys the wafer-thin credibility you had before.

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #106 - May 20^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 5:18pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

oh that's a goodie phil... now you are bringing intellectual dishonesty to the table as well!!! Yes, unemployment was higher in the early years of howard because he inherited high rates and then lowered them. Swan inherited record low rats of UNDER 4% and now it is nearly 6%please do not go the way of adelcrow and DNA and resort to being a moron.

now who's being dishonest? why not give the real rate instead of saying nearly 6%? tut tut longie ... your hypocrisy is shining through again.

Labor inherited Rates over 4.5% and not under 4%.

In mid 2008 under Labor rates went under 4%.

Around 12 months earlier unemployment was over 5.5% in 2006.

The rate is currently about 5.5%.

The obvious conclusion from the actual data is that the Lowest was factually under Labor but in general the rate is cycling in about the same levels in 2005 - 2007 as it is now.

except that unemployment reached 3.9% under howard and was trending down at the time Rudd was elected.

and what happened shortly after Rudd was elected dopey?

howards policies still in place kept unemployment low until rudd started changing things.

that's what you came up with? hahaha alzeimers kicking in already longloser ...

remember that little thing called the GFC? need me to spell it for you?............ G.F.C.

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #107 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

oh that's a goodie phil... now you are bringing intellectual dishonesty to the table as well!!! Yes, unemployment was higher in the early years of howard because he inherited high rates and then lowered them. Swan inherited record low rats of UNDER 4% and now it is nearly 6%please do not go the way of adelcrow and DNA and resort to being a moron.

now who's being dishonest? why not give the real rate instead of saying nearly 6%? tut tut longie ... your hypocrisy is shining through again.

Labor inherited Rates over 4.5% and not under 4%.

In mid 2008 under Labor rates went under 4%.

Around 12 months earlier unemployment was over 5.5% in 2006.

The rate is currently about 5.5%.

The obvious conclusion from the actual data is that the Lowest was factually under Labor but in general the rate is cycling in about the same levels in 2005 - 2007 as it is now.

except that unemployment reached 3.9% under howard and was trending down at the time Rudd was elected.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/unemployment-rate

4.2% was the lowest the Libs got and it was 4.6% in November 2007. March 2008 it was 4.0%

If you look at the downward trend you mentioned it goes back to 1992, it was also trending down when Howard came into power.

I love how when unemployment goes down it is Swan or Keating but when it goes up it is Howard.

It destroys the wafer-thin credibility you had before.

when it goes up it is Howard.

It clearly went down under the Howard government and I never said anything different.

I did however put it into context by showing that it was already trending down when he came into power and it continued to fall after he left. They are just facts.

It is also interesting to look at the growth graphs which show as growth was trending up unemployment was trending down in a virtual mirror image.

Both had commenced following the 1991/2 recession and continued till the GFC in 2008 virtually independant of what either government were doing.

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People. Reply #108 - May 21^st, 2013 at 8:26am And when we vote the new lib/nats coalition government in, unemployment will go up again probably to 6 or 7%
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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #109 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:30am

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

oh that's a goodie phil... now you are bringing intellectual dishonesty to the table as well!!! Yes, unemployment was higher in the early years of howard because he inherited high rates and then lowered them. Swan inherited record low rats of UNDER 4% and now it is nearly 6%please do not go the way of adelcrow and DNA and resort to being a moron.

now who's being dishonest? why not give the real rate instead of saying nearly 6%? tut tut longie ... your hypocrisy is shining through again.

Labor inherited Rates over 4.5% and not under 4%.

In mid 2008 under Labor rates went under 4%.

Around 12 months earlier unemployment was over 5.5% in 2006.

The rate is currently about 5.5%.

The obvious conclusion from the actual data is that the Lowest was factually under Labor but in general the rate is cycling in about the same levels in 2005 - 2007 as it is now.

except that unemployment reached 3.9% under howard and was trending down at the time Rudd was elected.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/unemployment-rate

4.2% was the lowest the Libs got and it was 4.6% in November 2007. March 2008 it was 4.0%

If you look at the downward trend you mentioned it goes back to 1992, it was also trending down when Howard came into power.

I love how when unemployment goes down it is Swan or Keating but when it goes up it is Howard.

It destroys the wafer-thin credibility you had before.

when it goes up it is Howard.

It clearly went down under the Howard government and I never said anything different.

I did however put it into context by showing that it was already trending down when he came into power and it continued to fall after he left. They are just facts.

It is also interesting to look at the growth graphs which show as growth was trending up unemployment was trending down in a virtual mirror image.

Both had commenced following the 2001/2 recession and continued till the GFC in 2008 virtually independant of what either government were doing.

there was no 2001/2 recession. in other countries there was but not here.

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #110 - May 21^st, 2013 at 11:17am

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:30am: