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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #15 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #16 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:10am

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:28am:

Sure way to surplus: tax the people as Howard did

by: Craig Emerson
From: The Australian
May 18, 2013

does Mr Emmerson have another way of paying off the

BIGGEST DEBT IN AUSTRALIAS HISTORY.

why doesnt he tell us what he would do????? Huh

The Australian economy although robust is still being hit by a Global downturn that only the stupid or ignorant would dispute.....Australia has been able to maintain steady growth whilst most other nations have fallen into recession and will take many years to recover.....Australia needs to take advantage of our economic position and drive reform to boost our market share and forge ahead of our competitors.....Our debt is modest and can be sustained whilst the reforms needed are put in place to build the social and economic backbone that will ensure Australia is able to take advantage of our economic position.....Now is not the time to talk down the Australian economy and fall back to the pack with AUSTERITY.....Australia has a once in a lifetime opportunity to really become the smart country!!!

Cool

The Chinese use two brush strokes to write the word 'crisis.' One brush stroke stands for danger; the other for opportunity. In a crisis, be aware of the danger - but recognize the opportunity.
John F. Kennedy (1917 - 1963), Speech in Indianapolis, April 12, 1959

how interesting that swan has told us over and over we are sailing through this we are the envy of the world.. I am the greatest....

I will have a surplus... just you watch,..

I could not understand how we would escape the European crisis.......and I think I mentioned it a couple of years ago...same with employment business after business closing or culling yet the unemployment figures never changed...

I never could understand what this govt was saying it didnt add up at all...

yet now we are being told the reason for the debt is b ecause of the crisis.............

so why were we not more prepared??? we do after all have the resources

our debt is not modest.. phil we are a modest country,.... its huge for us....millions a week in interest....and we can t afford to give our unemployed a pay increase...

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #17 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #18 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

Treat people like idiots as labor does, but just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

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Reply #19 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:34am

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

Treat people like idiots as labor does, but just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

Enough to drive our economy into recession.....The IMF does not agree with you.....The stimulus package saved Australia from a recession.....Feel free to post a link to refute my argument....Your opinion is worthless!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-in-good-shape-if-another-crisis-hits...

http://www.theage.com.au/business/in-praise-of-stimulus-20100808-11q8e.html

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Reply #20 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:40am

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

The spending to cope with the GFC was necessart and achieved its goal.

Other than that Labor have been very significantly cutting back on spending for about 5 consecutive budgets - trying to increase income all opposed by the opposition.

Pulling back on middle class welthfair etc has not been about class war it has been about affordability.

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Reply #22 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:40am

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

Treat people like idiots as labor does, but just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

Enough to drive our economy into recession.....The IMF does not agree with you.....The stimulus package saved Australia from a recession.....Feel free to post a link to refute my argument....Your opinion is worthless!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-in-good-shape-if-another-crisis-hits...

http://www.theage.com.au/business/in-praise-of-stimulus-20100808-11q8e.html

The IMF??? Grin

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #23 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:45am

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

The spending to cope with the GFC was necessart and achieved its goal.

Other than that Labor have been very significantly cutting back on spending for about 5 consecutive budgets - trying to increase income all opposed by the opposition.

Pulling back on middle class welthfair etc has not been about class war it has been about affordability.

Billions on illegal boat people.

Hundreds of millions in overseas aid.

Billions on the BER that benefited a few large companies, one of which went bankrupt with a large number of subbies going broke.

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Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People.
Reply #24 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:48am

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

Treat people like idiots as labor does, but just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

Enough to drive our economy into recession.....The IMF does not agree with you.....The stimulus package saved Australia from a recession.....Feel free to post a link to refute my argument....Your opinion is worthless!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-in-good-shape-if-another-crisis-hits...

http://www.theage.com.au/business/in-praise-of-stimulus-20100808-11q8e.html

I am talking about at any time after the stimulus. You still got excuses?

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Reply #25 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:48am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

Same IMF that lost $22.6bn in Russia and admitted they don't know where it went?

Same IMF that put a rapist at its Head?

Same IMF that backed the accounting that allowed Enron to book a $550m profit on a deal that lost money?

Get some better sources Phil.

The IMF are an Independent organisation Andre that has no vested interest in its assessment of the Australian economy....Feel free to post any alternative assessment that contradicts the IMF and most economists who agree the stimulus was the main reason Australia did not go into recession.....I am prepared to accept a valid argument that is supported with facts.....Opinions are worthless without substance!!!

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Reply #26 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:52am

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:48am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:24am:

Dnarever wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2013 at 7:37am:

Emmerson is the dumbest and most extreme member of gillards fabian front bench.

What he says is even more worthy of ignoring but taking the lies to fuel your rage at labor.

The best way to a surplus is to get rid of the ALP and never elect them again until the reform themselves economically.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success, on tax you don't increase them you reform them

The conservatives $100 Billion of unfunded spending will ensure that the coalition can not hope to produce a surplus inside a decade. Abbott and Hockey will never produce a surplus, you would need to be crackers to think differently.

Howard delivered surpluses through economic success

YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I GATHER? I WOULD GET RID OF IT IF I WERE YOU IT DIDNT DO WELL OVER THIS 6 YEARS DID IT?

Costello produced surpluses based on the strong economic position he inherited coupled with the strongest world economic growth in over a century.

DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME YOU WERE JUST A TINY BIT FAIR.... SWAN INHERITED FAR MORE THAN COSTELLO DID..HE HAD A SURPLUS TO START WITH.. PERHAPS HAD HE BEEN A BIT MORE PRUDENT HE WOULDNT BE WHERE HE IS NOW...44% IN THE POLLS....THE ECONOMY YOU KEEP GIVING COSTELLO CREDIT FOR INCREASED 3 FOLD DURING THE RUDD/GILLARD YEARS.... SWAN UPPED THE BABY BONUS WHY????? PAID MATERNITY LEAVE...WHY????? ITS ALL WELFARE THATS WHY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOATS....NUFF SAID..

JUST A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THE LIBS WOULDNT GO AMISS IT WASNT ALL GOOD FORTUNE FOR THEM AND LOUSY FORTUNE FOR LABOR AND YOU KNOW IT.

I have given Costello a lot of credit for the things he got right as Treasurer, Many times I have rated him in the top 2 treasurers we have had. It is however a fact that some of his success was due to the period he had but nothing he could have done about a bit of good luck, its not his fault Cods so don't feel too bad for him.

In my view Keating and Costello are the two best treasurers in my life time by a country mile. However they both did make mistakes and Costello was never really tested by bad conditions. (as I said that wasn't his fault).

SORRY MATE I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN YOU GIVE ONE WORD OF CREDIT.. NOT ONE...AND I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU WILL PROVIDE A LINK...SORRY MATE... AND YOU CLAIM IT WAS ALL EASY PEASY GOING FOR COSTELLO.. LOL....THE FACT THAT SWAN HAD TREB LE THE INCOME DOESNT EQUATE WITH YOU DOES IT?? DONT YOU THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE HELPED HIM OV ER THE MINI HUMP....

WE WERENT AFFECTED BY THE GFC REMEMBER? WE SAILED THROUGH IT...at least thats the message I kept getting.. Wink

Australia did better than most during the GFC because we did not embrace AUSTRITY like those nations that are now in recession.....Australia could reduce its debt and cut services to the bone to do so.....Do you think that would help or hurt our economy in the long term???

Huh

Treat people like idiots as labor does, but just putting the brakes on spending increases would have been enough.

Enough to drive our economy into recession.....The IMF does not agree with you.....The stimulus package saved Australia from a recession.....Feel free to post a link to refute my argument....Your opinion is worthless!!!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-in-good-shape-if-another-crisis-hits...

http://www.theage.com.au/business/in-praise-of-stimulus-20100808-11q8e.html

I am talking about at any time after the stimulus. You still got excuses?

You have still not provided any independent critique apart from your own opinion....I will accept a balanced argument supported by facts but I will not accept someone's opinion without supporting evidence!!!

Huh

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KJT1981 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1822	Re: The Sure Way To A Surplus, Tax The People. Reply #28 - May 19^th, 2013 at 9:59am Progs, Phil grew up in a house full of women after his father took off. That's why he acts like a girl.
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Reply #29 - May 19^th, 2013 at 10:02am

Strangely my father grew up in a house of women.
Him mother died young, he had a father who was a builder who went from the site to the pub and he grew up in one of the hardest council estates around....with 4 sisters.

You go two ways I guess, you act like a girl and cry or you realise you're on your fking own and you pull yourself up.

I'm fortunate he was a man of the second option.....

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