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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #15 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:11am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

I never bothered in the recent UK elections cods because I can't stand the Labour Party, Cameron has let me down on various fronts and I think the LibDems are cracked.

In a normal society, if a politician or party does not match up to the standard you expect, then you should be free to not vote for them.

I did register my view by being one of the 60% who didn't turn up.

They have to win my vote.
Compulsory voting makes people vote who wouldn't care less which is absurd.

Which is probably why nobody else does it.

so the country is left tpo the mercy of 40% that do turn up mostly unionists I am sure.. well done andrei.. sorry but that pathetic its all about you isnt it?..

seems childish havent you got 2 little girls you want to see things improve for??? or are you prepared for them to live in a world of fanatics....because they will always vote come hell or high water.

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Reply #16 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am

KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Valley Boy read the article?

Come on Longy Valley Boy went to Arthur Phillip High in Parramatta. It was known as the school for dummies.

There is a hilarious post down in the Feedback board where "The Wise One" is saying how it is a shame that some posters are not posting anymore.

In his list he gives

Riverina.Jack
The Valley Boy

Is this not a case of classic split personality disorder????

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Reply #17 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am

KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:32am:

What are all you righters going on about with your bullshyte about what will the labor party do after they lose the election.

Who is going to be leader? Who is going to be the treasure spokeperson? etc

Who as said they are going to lose the election? Has any of you voted as yet I know I haven't and I get my ballot papers about 4/5 days after the declaration of nominations, and I haven't got them yet.

You are all saying the polls are telling you that labor will lose now read this on how the polls can be wrong.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/05/15/bc-election-poll...

There is only one poll to take notice of and that is held on the 14^th September where everyone gets a say not just 1000 people that live in liberal areas

They said a week is a long time in politics and there is about 120 days to go before the election and a lot can happen between now and then.

The prodigal son returns with more bullsh1t.

Welcome back Valley Boy.

BTW wiseone? will you give us a hint who you will be voting for.

you know bugger all dickhead do a bit of research on silent voters and see how they vote.

do you know what a silent voter is at all bet you don't

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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #18 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:14am

John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:10am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

'low voter turnout' was an issue which will always distort the results as conservative-leaning older people stay home. however we have COMPULSORY voting.

If you read the article you would see that it was NDP that lost the election and they are like our labor party so the conservative-leaning people did turn up to vote

So they are a bunch of criminals too!

People will turn up in droves to vote the rotten Gillard government out.

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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #19 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:20am

John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am:

KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:32am:

What are all you righters going on about with your bullshyte about what will the labor party do after they lose the election.

Who is going to be leader? Who is going to be the treasure spokeperson? etc

Who as said they are going to lose the election? Has any of you voted as yet I know I haven't and I get my ballot papers about 4/5 days after the declaration of nominations, and I haven't got them yet.

You are all saying the polls are telling you that labor will lose now read this on how the polls can be wrong.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/05/15/bc-election-poll...

There is only one poll to take notice of and that is held on the 14^th September where everyone gets a say not just 1000 people that live in liberal areas

They said a week is a long time in politics and there is about 120 days to go before the election and a lot can happen between now and then.

The prodigal son returns with more bullsh1t.

Welcome back Valley Boy.

BTW wiseone? will you give us a hint who you will be voting for.

you know bugger all dickhead do a bit of research on silent voters and see how they vote.

do you know what a silent voter is at all bet you don't

Yep, a d1ckhead like you that doesn't want their address to be known to the public.

If I were you i wouldn't want anyone to know where I lived either.

Saves having your fence decorated with graffiti saying 'd1ckhead valley boy lives here'.

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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #20 - May 20^th, 2013 at 10:24am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am:

KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

Valley Boy read the article?

Come on Longy Valley Boy went to Arthur Phillip High in Parramatta. It was known as the school for dummies.

There is a hilarious post down in the Feedback board where "The Wise One" is saying how it is a shame that some posters are not posting anymore.

In his list he gives

Riverina.Jack
The Valley Boy

Is this not a case of classic split personality disorder????

some think we all suffer from memory loss..LOL..one of the reasons he c&ps all the time its the only way he can remember what he has done....havent seen anything from the Independent for a while maybe they have had a falling out.

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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #22 - May 20^th, 2013 at 1:23pm

RightSadFred wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

'low voter turnout' was an issue which will always distort the results as conservative-leaning older people stay home. however we have COMPULSORY voting.

longweekend58

I am opposed to compulsory voting but the stats knock my argument out of the park.

Practically we only have compulsory polling booth attendance but given that in most elections about 1% fail to show up and only about 1% fail to vote correctly.

Polling is a statistical sampling which can show trends and anomalies, the trend for the ALP has been down then flat-line.

Doing polling on a variable target quantity is very dodgy.

Given the vast majority in Australia seem happy to vote and know how to correctly ...... this does provide a far more stable polling basis.

it is always a complexity in predictive polling when voting is voluntary. absensces in voting are n ot across the board but rather centred on ethic and age groups who do vote differently than the average thus skewing the results. If 50yos and up didn't go to the polls, labor would win the election. if <50s didn't vote, labor would almost fail to win a seat.

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Reply #23 - May 20^th, 2013 at 1:24pm

John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:10am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

'low voter turnout' was an issue which will always distort the results as conservative-leaning older people stay home. however we have COMPULSORY voting.

If you read the article you would see that it was NDP that lost the election and they are like our labor party so the conservative-leaning people did turn up to vote

It was an example, not a commentary on this election.

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Reply #24 - May 20^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

If you read the whole of the article you will find that their pollsters are often wrong indicating that have statistical flaws in their methodology. However in Australia, news poll and galaxy have a record of never being more than 1.1% out in their predictions. and with the current margin being 12-16% that is of no consequence.

That can't be right. Last night Galaxy was 54-46 and Newspoll was 56-44. That's 2% different from each other.

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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: What is with all this B/S Reply #25 - May 20^th, 2013 at 3:28pm John S wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:32am: Who as said they are going to lose the election? Has any of you voted as yet I know I haven't and I get my ballot papers about 4/5 days after the declaration of nominations, and I haven't got them yet. We all want to know who you will be voting for. Any hints?
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Re: What is with all this B/S
Reply #26 - May 20^th, 2013 at 5:26pm

TheGreenLight wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

If you read the whole of the article you will find that their pollsters are often wrong indicating that have statistical flaws in their methodology. However in Australia, news poll and galaxy have a record of never being more than 1.1% out in their predictions. and with the current margin being 12-16% that is of no consequence.

That can't be right. Last night Galaxy was 54-46 and Newspoll was 56-44. That's 2% different from each other.

and the middle ground of 55/45 means they are 1% off.

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Reply #27 - May 20^th, 2013 at 6:46pm

TheGreenLight wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

If you read the whole of the article you will find that their pollsters are often wrong indicating that have statistical flaws in their methodology. However in Australia, news poll and galaxy have a record of never being more than 1.1% out in their predictions. and with the current margin being 12-16% that is of no consequence.

That can't be right. Last night Galaxy was 54-46 and Newspoll was 56-44. That's 2% different from each other.

TheGreenLight

I know on election night the two party preferred means everything, but in the polling the primary means more in trends.

The ALP have been hovering around 30% and the Coalition have been hovering around 46-48% so 12-16% is right on the mark.
(depends which poll your talking about)

FYI preferences are not a guaranteed in fact they are modelled in these non-election polls, preferences can add or subtract a 1-2% .... not everyone follows them blindly.

The only anomaly in the real polls is the greens polling in real state elections versus their national figure.

It appears the greens are going to dip back below 10% if the state elections get mirrored federally.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: What is with all this B/S Reply #28 - May 20^th, 2013 at 7:24pm KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 10:38am: Valley Boy doesn't want Ray Hadley to find him. come on KJ tell me whats Ray Hadley got to do with vb?... I wouldnt want to meet Ray on a dark night so I trust it isnt too bad..lol
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Reply #29 - May 20^th, 2013 at 11:25pm

KJT1981 wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

BTW wiseone? will you give us a hint who you will be voting for.

salad in wrote on May 20^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

We all want to know who you will be voting for. Any hints?

It got bugger all to you two one who I vote for but the liberal/national party will be last on the ballot paper.

But don't worry the national party will win this seat. They won last time 61.17% to 31.83%.

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