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May 21st, 2013 at 4:59am
 
Former prime minister Kevin Rudd backs same-sex marriage in blog

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd has declared he has changed his mind on same-sex marriage and thrown his support behind it.

In a lengthy blog posted on his website, Mr Rudd explains why he has reversed his opposition to gay marriage.

Mr Rudd says he has reflected on the issue for a long period of time and had many conversations with family, friends and colleagues, recounting a recent one with a gay former staffer.

"I believe the secular Australian state should be able to recognise same-sex marriage," Mr Rudd said in the blog post.

"For me, this change in position has come about as a result of a lot of reflection, over a long period of time, including conversations with good people grappling with deep questions of life, sexuality and faith."

He concluded that while the church and the state could have different positions and practices on same-sex marriage, legislation should not place any requirement on religious institutions to conduct same-sex marriages.

Mr Rudd, who is a Christian, says the issue has been a "difficult personal journey" but came down to a matter of conscience.

"I have tried in good conscience to deal with the ethical fundamentals of the issue and reach an ethical conclusion," he said.

"My core interest is to be clear-cut about the change in my position locally on this highly controversial issue before the next election, so that my constituents are fully aware of my position when they next visit the ballot box."

He says he is aware his opponents within and beyond the Labor party could read political significance into his reversed position, but denounced any national leadership role on the issue.

Mr Rudd's newfound support puts him at odds with the Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who opposes same-sex marriage.

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young says the leaders of both major parties are out of step with the community in their opposition to same-sex marriage.

"Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott are looking more and more isolated on this issue even within their own parties," she said.

"They are both standing on the wrong side of history.

"They're blocking the inevitable, they're stubborn about it, we need to see them evolve."

Mr Rudd also used the blog to urge the Coalition to follow Labor's lead and grant MPs a conscience vote on the matter in parliament.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-20/former-pm-kevin-rudd-backs-same-sex-marria...
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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2013 at 5:01am
 
Church and State are able to have different positions on same sex marriage.

http://www.kevinruddmp.com/2013/05/church-and-state-are-able-to-have.html
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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2013 at 6:08am
 

Poor ol' Elmer is feeling lonely on the backbenches and needs some attention...
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2013 at 7:11am
 
white anting the childless aethiest ranga. Wink

i would love to be at kevvies house for the celebratory party on september 14.  he will be high fiving his missus and wetting himself with exuberance as jules and wayne are led off to the gallows.  this is like some cheap period piece with 'lady jane grey" lady mcbeth and cardinal wolsley.  shakespeare should write a play based on these very interesting characters Wink
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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2013 at 7:27am
 

Perhaps an adaptation of King Lear, with ex-King Elmer sitting alone and muttering about sharp serpents' teeth and ungrateful protégés.

But who would be Cordelia, or Goneril, or Regan?
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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2013 at 7:39am
 
So the most narcissistic complicit ALP MP supports gays getting married ?

Its shameful a grub like Rudd wishes to politicise this issue.

I guess he has been giving it that way, maybe he is a closet gay ....... this might be part of his last ditch attempt to take over before September. With Rudd there is always an agenda, why now ?

I wonder if he has employed a private polling firm to see if the idea worked.



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____ wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 4:59am:
Former prime minister Kevin Rudd backs same-sex marriage in blog

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd has declared he has changed his mind on same-sex marriage and thrown his support behind it.

In a lengthy blog posted on his website, Mr Rudd explains why he has reversed his opposition to gay marriage.

Mr Rudd says he has reflected on the issue for a long period of time and had many conversations with family, friends and colleagues, recounting a recent one with a gay former staffer.

"I believe the secular Australian state should be able to recognise same-sex marriage," Mr Rudd said in the blog post.

"For me, this change in position has come about as a result of a lot of reflection, over a long period of time, including conversations with good people grappling with deep questions of life, sexuality and faith."

He concluded that while the church and the state could have different positions and practices on same-sex marriage, legislation should not place any requirement on religious institutions to conduct same-sex marriages.

Mr Rudd, who is a Christian, says the issue has been a "difficult personal journey" but came down to a matter of conscience.

"I have tried in good conscience to deal with the ethical fundamentals of the issue and reach an ethical conclusion," he said.

"My core interest is to be clear-cut about the change in my position locally on this highly controversial issue before the next election, so that my constituents are fully aware of my position when they next visit the ballot box."

He says he is aware his opponents within and beyond the Labor party could read political significance into his reversed position, but denounced any national leadership role on the issue.

Mr Rudd's newfound support puts him at odds with the Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who opposes same-sex marriage.

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young says the leaders of both major parties are out of step with the community in their opposition to same-sex marriage.

"Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott are looking more and more isolated on this issue even within their own parties," she said.

"They are both standing on the wrong side of history.

"They're blocking the inevitable, they're stubborn about it, we need to see them evolve."

Mr Rudd also used the blog to urge the Coalition to follow Labor's lead and grant MPs a conscience vote on the matter in parliament.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-20/former-pm-kevin-rudd-backs-same-sex-marria...


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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2013 at 7:58am
 
They all will come around eventually. Its the direction society is moving.

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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2013 at 8:38am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 7:58am:
They all will come around eventually. Its the direction society is moving.

SOB


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Being non-religious the issue looks bigger to me, why does the government need to know if I am married or not ?

We already have de-facto laws that undermine marriage so why not just get rid of the marriage act altogether ?

The only point we need to examine two peoples relationship is in a separation situation where kids are involved and law is required.

Other than that, it is no ones business who I choose to live with or how many.



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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2013 at 8:41am
 
RightSadFred wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 7:39am:
So the most narcissistic complicit ALP MP supports gays getting married ?

Its shameful a grub like Rudd wishes to politicise this issue.
I guess he has been giving it that way, maybe he is a closet gay ....... this might be part of his last ditch attempt to take over before September. With Rudd there is always an agenda, why now ?

I wonder if he has employed a private polling firm to see if the idea worked.





of course, it's Rudds fault that it is being politicised .... it was never on the agenda before that.
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Reply #10 - May 21st, 2013 at 9:23am
 
RightSadFred wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 7:58am:
They all will come around eventually. Its the direction society is moving.

SOB


Spot of Borg

Being non-religious the issue looks bigger to me, why does the government need to know if I am married or not ?

We already have de-facto laws that undermine marriage so why not just get rid of the marriage act altogether ?

The only point we need to examine two peoples relationship is in a separation situation where kids are involved and law is required.

Other than that, it is no ones business who I choose to live with or how many.







it does seem very old hat now doesnt it......its just a way of keeping records and keeping track of us..now we have the mobil...

look at the money involved with a marriage these days. its huge business I bet they cant wait for this to become legal...aint that a fact  Cool
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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2013 at 9:41am
 
With Rudd there is always a hidden agenda.

Gearing up for another leadership challenge? One that he might actually contest this time?
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2013 at 9:47am
 
john_g wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 9:41am:
With Rudd there is always a hidden agenda.

Gearing up for another leadership challenge? One that he might actually contest this time?



NO!NO!NO!

Elmer will never lead the ALP again.

He said so.

And he is a man of principle.

Isn't  he?
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Reply #13 - May 21st, 2013 at 10:04am
 
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it does seem very old hat now doesnt it......its just a way of keeping records and keeping track of us..now we have the mobil...

look at the money involved with a marriage these days. its huge business I bet they cant wait for this to become legal...aint that a fact  Cool


cods

I even go further, why should any government policy be based on who people choose to live with ?

A Church can keep their "Marriage" as what they define ....... gays can do the same.

I see at as no laws are required.

The government can just remove itself from the equation.
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2013 at 10:05am
 
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:41am:
RightSadFred wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 7:39am:
So the most narcissistic complicit ALP MP supports gays getting married ?

Its shameful a grub like Rudd wishes to politicise this issue.
I guess he has been giving it that way, maybe he is a closet gay ....... this might be part of his last ditch attempt to take over before September. With Rudd there is always an agenda, why now ?

I wonder if he has employed a private polling firm to see if the idea worked.


of course, it's Rudds fault that it is being politicised .... it was never on the agenda before that.


John Smith

Sorry I missed the guy holding a gun to Rudd's head. Does he appear when you put your tin foil hat on ?

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