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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Political Views Of Journalists Reply #15 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:09pm Here you go Longie. http://theconversation.com/whose-views-skew-the-news-media-chiefs-ready-to-vote-...
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Reply #16 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Journalists should not hold political views or bias.

You tell me Maxine McKew who walks out of an ABC role and into becoming a Labor candidate never held political bias in her role?!

journalist are of course bisaed, everyone has to vote for someone including journalists ... but a good journalist doesn't let that get in the way of the truth.

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Reply #17 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:33pm

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:42am:

So if journos are all so left-wing how come the media supposedly supports Abbott and shows bias towards him? I read a lot of political analysts and if they are so left-wing as claimed you'd expect majority support for the Greens yet they almost universally dismiss them as irrelevent and rather looney. And how can they be really left-wing since australian society is a right-wing culture?

this article is nonsense.

It's based on research. Unlike your usual crap it's supported by a study. Reporters are left wing. Editors are right wing.

Spot on. My experience of 25 years in the media is that editors either share the owner's political views or know what they have to do to keep their job.

In a quarter of a century I worked for only two editors for whom I had respect.

One was a drunk who left his senior staff alone because had confidence that we knew our job. The other was a genuine small l liberal who ran an honest newspaper. He recruited me and I was proud to work for him.

The others were either rightwing bastards or wimps.

Off topic but Mr Freedman, you really should come and watch your cricket side here.

You almost scored 100 runs in an innings the other day........

I think we'll be belting you lot 3-0 before sending the convict packing when they arrive as well.

Happy days.

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Reply #18 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:58pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Journalists should not hold political views or bias.

You tell me Maxine McKew who walks out of an ABC role and into becoming a Labor candidate never held political bias in her role?!

Everyone is going to hold political views and bias. Journalists should simply not include those views or biases in their work, otherwise their education and training will be all but useless.

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Reply #19 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 4:19am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:33pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:42am:

So if journos are all so left-wing how come the media supposedly supports Abbott and shows bias towards him? I read a lot of political analysts and if they are so left-wing as claimed you'd expect majority support for the Greens yet they almost universally dismiss them as irrelevent and rather looney. And how can they be really left-wing since australian society is a right-wing culture?

this article is nonsense.

It's based on research. Unlike your usual crap it's supported by a study. Reporters are left wing. Editors are right wing.

Spot on. My experience of 25 years in the media is that editors either share the owner's political views or know what they have to do to keep their job.

In a quarter of a century I worked for only two editors for whom I had respect.

One was a drunk who left his senior staff alone because had confidence that we knew our job. The other was a genuine small l liberal who ran an honest newspaper. He recruited me and I was proud to work for him.

The others were either rightwing bastards or wimps.

Off topic but Mr Freedman, you really should come and watch your cricket side here.

You almost scored 100 runs in an innings the other day........

I think we'll be belting you lot 3-0 before sending the convict packing when they arrive as well.

Happy days.

Mr Hicks, after that dismal performance I have gone off cricket. Can only hope for something better in the 2nd test. But before you get too cocky, remember England were very lucky to manage a drawn series when recently in NZ.

As for the convicts, I fear you may be right. But as a newly appointed convict I will be hoping for a different result.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Political Views Of Journalists Reply #20 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 4:24am Furthermore, Mr Hicks, I can say with total confidence there is no way England will beat NZ 3-0. There are only two tests.
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Reply #21 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 4:34am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Journalists should not hold political views or bias.

You tell me Maxine McKew who walks out of an ABC role and into becoming a Labor candidate never held political bias in her role?!

This statement is, of course, utter nonsense. You cannot expect a journo to be a political vaccuum.

As for McKew, she is not the only journalist to leave the craft and enter politics. I seem to recall Tont Abbott working for a newspaper at one stage, The Australian, wasn't it?

And in NZ, a person called Richard Long, the editor of the Dominion Post and the man who turned a decent liberal paper into a rightwing rag, then left to become a bumbling spin doctor for the National Party.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Political Views Of Journalists Reply #22 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43am Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:04pm: Journalists should not hold political views or bias. You tell me Maxine McKew who walks out of an ABC role and into becoming a Labor candidate never held political bias in her role?! and wasnt she a SUPREME DUD!!!
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Reply #23 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:36am

My theory regards the reason for the ABC reporters having a relative disproportionate lean towards the Greens is becuase of the one public policy that the Greens vehemently push and that is for same sex partnerships to gain an equal status of marriage.

From what I understand it (ABC) has a much higher percentage of homosexual people working in it's journalists and editorial department than is believable. I also understand that it has had a profound impact upon the editorial content on what, how and the frequency of matters concerning homosexuality are propagated.

It's also interesting to note that amongst all the media outlets surveyed the ABC (at least it's my impression anyway) has a lot less reporting on matters regarding indigenous news stories when you compare them to the news propaganda on matters around same sex partners and homosexuality.

I don't have the resources but I wonder on a relative scale how many cases of discrimination were made over sexual preference compared to that of race or religion...... THAT would make for an interesting read. But it would have to include the number of the initial number of claims or complaints made, as opposed to the number referred to the tribunal for consideration.

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Reply #24 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:38am

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:04pm:

Journalists should not hold political views or bias.

You tell me Maxine McKew who walks out of an ABC role and into becoming a Labor candidate never held political bias in her role?!

and wasnt she a SUPREME DUD!!!

One thing that does go a long way to proving is it is more a matter of perception than content when it comes to the voters preference on who they'll cast their vote for until they're exposed for the sham they are.....

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Reply #25 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:46am

Dooley wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 11:36am:

My theory regards the reason for the ABC reporters having a relative disproportionate lean towards the Greens is becuase of the one public policy that the Greens vehemently push and that is for same sex partnerships to gain an equal status of marriage.

From what I understand it (ABC) has a much higher percentage of homosexual people working in it's journalists and editorial department than is believable. I also understand that it has had a profound impact upon the editorial content on what, how and the frequency of matters concerning homosexuality are propagated.

It's also interesting to note that amongst all the media outlets surveyed the ABC (at least it's my impression anyway) has a lot less reporting on matters regarding indigenous news stories when you compare them to the news propaganda on matters around same sex partners and homosexuality.

I don't have the resources but I wonder on a relative scale how many cases of discrimination were made over sexual preference compared to that of race or religion...... THAT would make for an interesting read. But it would have to include the number of the initial number of claims or complaints made, as opposed to the number referred to the tribunal for consideration.

Dooley, you'd make a great journo. Whenever they're unsure, but want to report something anyway, sentences always begin with words like:It is understood that....." or "Inside sources say...."

The NZ Herald had great advice for its reporters.

When in doubt, leave out. Better still, find out.

I don't want to know what you "understand", but what you can prove.

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