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Reply #15 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:21pm

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:58pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:30pm:

I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes.

I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments.

It has nothing to do with his cash, but the way he uses it. I don't consider him successful, like most men driven by power and money his personal life is a dung heap.

I care nothing for his sex or colour.

All boxes unticked, I think.

People buy his newspapers of their own volition. He doesn't force people to read them. Anyone with an internet connection has access to a plethora of alternative media.

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Reply #16 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:36pm

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:58pm:

I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments.

You dislike Murdoch because he has power. That's cool, just don't go thinking the moral facade you try to shroud it in is fooling anyone.

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Reply #17 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:36pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:30pm:

I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes.

I like Forrest, gates and buffett.

I don't like murdoch because he is a greedy power hungry delusional maniac who uses propaganda to get his way.

Nothing to do with him being white, and the bigger bigot is yOU as I'm sure if he wa black you'd be the first to whine like a laughing hyena. And I'd still call him a greedy power hungry delusional maniac.

Hilarious. You managed to squeeze in the term bigot even when I made no claim or assertion of my own.

want to try that again? Cheesy

You work at uni, and you don't even get that one? WOW.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Rupert reveals his hand Reply #18 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Rupert reveals his hand Reply #19 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:40pm The best politician around is a black man. Jimmy McMillan for those not familiar with some things we get in the United States.
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Reply #20 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.

I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society. Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills.

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Reply #21 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:52pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.

I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society. Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills.

You haven't connected your label of bigot to my original statement in any logical way.

The black man thing is a strawman.

Try again.

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Reply #22 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:53pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.

I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society. Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills.

You haven't connected your label of bigot to my original statement in any logical way.

The black man thing is a strawman.

Try again.

Once again, I won't be nursing you. It's clearly all there. Now work it out on your own.

I'll give you a hint: it's all in the definition, and then inference from the definition

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Rupert reveals his hand Reply #23 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:54pm I accept your defeat; run along, trendy.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Rupert reveals his hand Reply #24 - May 21^st, 2013 at 9:55pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:54pm: I accept your defeat; run along, trendy. have a nice night try look up the definition if you get some time That's enough of a clue for you.
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Reply #25 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:00pm

An argument involves a proposition, or a series of propositions, that are then attempted to be validated by a line of reasoning or evidence. Unfortunately, your claim of bigot had no justification. Moreover, there was no display of intolerance by myself in the statement under consideration. Therefore, any claim to bigotry was a either a strawman or a Red Herring.

Run along now.

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Reply #26 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:00pm:

An argument involves a proposition, or a series of propositions, that are then attempted to be validated by a line of reasoning or evidence. Unfortunately, your claim of bigot had no justification. Moreover, there was no display of intolerance by myself in the statement under consideration. Therefore, any claim to bigotry was a either a strawman or a Red Herring.

Run along now.

nice attempt, and yet clearly wrong. Sad

the hint to look at the definition remains

How many strikes would you like?

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Rupert reveals his hand Reply #27 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:32pm A counter-argument includes drawing out the claims and assertions made by your interlocutor and then pointing out potential flaws in those claims and assertions. You don't seem to be very good at this.
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Reply #28 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:34pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:32pm:

A counter-argument includes drawing out the claims and assertions made by your interlocutor and then pointing out potential flaws in those claims and assertions.

You don't seem to be very good at this.

strike two.

One more, Misty

Come on - reflect on your school days and work out what I mean by "it's in the definition."

It really isn't that difficult

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Reply #29 - May 21^st, 2013 at 10:46pm

When making claims, or counter-claims, they need to be as clear and precise as possible. The onus is on the writer, and not the reader, to communicate their thoughts in the clearest possible manner. If the reader has issues with fathoming your content, then more often than not, it is the writer's fault, and not the reader's. (In academia, there is a 100% onus on the writer to communicate their ideas effectively, but given that you obviously dropped out of school when you were about 15 or 16, I'll allow you some leeway here).

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