http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/conroy-backs-tv-bookies-20130521-2j...

So its widely known that most seem sick of that dope Waterhouse showing up with his cheezy smile during sporting events bringing to the forefront ..... live gambling on things like next player to do a fart or some other moronic stuff yet the moron Conroy does the following:

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So if there is nothing in this politically, what kick back is Conroy getting that will probably cost his party votes ?

This really comes back to these mythical ALP values they keep talking about, what kind of workers party gives the green light to the big end of town to milk the workers via gambling ?

cods wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:30am:


cods

No doubt Conroy is getting something out of this, the ALP won't.

I record the NRL and play it back about an hour after it starts so I can zip through the adds and scrums (which are a joke in league, I am an ex rugby player) and I zip through when that dick waterhouse shows up.

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:57am:




there is so much money in gambling for govts....

isnt it about time we knew just how much the govts reap from all forms of gambling????/..

they are the biggest PIMPS as far as I am concerned..

they go on about pokie reform as if they really give a poo about the affects they have on people and their lives....and at the end of the day a pittance gets spent on it and nothjing gets done...

its a joke..

RightSadFred wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:06am:




thats not what I was referring too really the govts both State and Feds take the biggest BITE out of your gambling dollar...lotto.scratchies.dogs.horses.. you name it... now we can gamble on the out come of the election...its pathetic..we can gamble on the first try the last try...no wonder they are arresting more and more in india and Pakistan for cricket corruption.... yet its the govt that scores the most...hypocrites of the worst order..its ok though they give the Salvos a extra  few dollars to help with the counselling..

they make Fagin look like Mother Therese...



do you think its right that kids are being more and more exposed to this form of 'entertainment" making it look like its the norm.... everyone dreams of winning lotto.. I do.. but thats all we do dream.. but I have seen some in the shops buying hundreds of dollars worth of picks.....this wasnt the norm years ago...

cods

Personally don't care as whether you gamble or not is a matter of self control.

WRT to live gambling again it does not personally bother me as I record and play through that kind of rubbish, again its a matter of self control.

I oppose social engineering exercises like the nanny state control of gambling while governments hypocritically tax it.

This is an issue for the ALP who have a political opportunity to get some political brownie points yet they prefer to score another own goal.

Question for you...... when do you think personal accountability starts ?

You seem to want to make the government responsible for all social issues.

If that is the case then we need to ramp up that human cloning so we can make more compliant/consistent human beings which the state can control via a bluetooth or wifi connection.

RightSadFred wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:48am:





sorry to see you think that.. because no its not the case...

what I am saying is... the govt allows these things to take place gambling of all kinds is regulated by the govt...even selling of raffle tickets is regulated BINGO is regulated.... they in other words ALLOW it..

in most cases they take the biggest cut.. to the point now where they cannot live without the gambling tax... thats a fact..

and I believe its wrong and we are kept in the dark as to how much they are reaping from something they claim to be concerned about the overall affects..


as for personal accountability.... thats easy for those who do not have problems with addiction...I dont gamble never have pokies dont interest me horse even less.....but I did smoke and it took me about 20 years of trying to give it up.....so I have a small idea how difficult it can be...

you do not see the excitment of gambling.  thats good but if you had a member of your family that was intoxicated by it...you would see how addictive it can be...its in the brain and no different to any other addiction except it is very very expensive... I would say more so than drugs..

should the govt make trillions at the expense of the "weak"...I dont think so... once upon a time you had to go looking for a place to put a bet on now you pick up the phone.dont even have to leave the house.

to easy mate..its wrong.

cods

Interesting assertions and question dodging.

So we write nanny state laws for the tiny minority that have no self control yet these nanny state laws do nothing for their lack of control ?

Sorry can't even see you attempting to answer the question, self accountability is always there regardless of any nanny state laws...... that is problem gamblers will find a way to gamble no matter what and this is without even bringing illegal gambling.

Governments regulate gambling so they can tax it, they really don't give a stuff about problem gamblers.

There is a real world out there of high stakes gambling both legal and illegal...... you need to get out and see it.

Just go down to Randwick on track day, I see many working class types rolling out bundles of hundreds to their bookies.

I know a receptionist who is a professional gambler making over 5k each week end, she drives a Porche to work.