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Makka Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 803 Gender:	Marriage equality only for homosexuals May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals Reply #1 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm: Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual? What other groups?
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Makka Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 803 Gender:	Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals Reply #2 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm: Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm: Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual? What other groups? Any group that wants marriage equality
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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #3 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

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Makka

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

(1) Between family immediate members

(2) Between 1 man and many women

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

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Fit of Absent Mindeness

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #5 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:16pm

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

(1) Between family immediate members

(2) Between 1 man and many women

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

If these groups want marriage equality then they should lobby for it.

Marriage equality between homosexuals has nothing to do with the above situations.

If you want these situations to be legalised then lobby for them.

Are you honestly trying to compare these to gay marriage?

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FriYAY

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #6 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:22pm

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

(1) Between family immediate members

(2) Between 1 man and many women

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

No, i haven't heard any of that.

It would appear the push is for same sex couples.

The ALP should go to the election with it.

Tony would crap his pants.

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FriYAY

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #7 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:25pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

(1) Between family immediate members

(2) Between 1 man and many women

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

If these groups want marriage equality then they should lobby for it.

Marriage equality between homosexuals has nothing to do with the above situations.

If you want these situations to be legalised then lobby for them.

Are you honestly trying to compare these to gay marriage?

So you are saying he is right?

Huh

What is wrong with someone wanting 2 wives/husbands/partners?

Equality.... Huh

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals Reply #8 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:28pm I think the behavior of queers on this subject in the last few years has been appalling.
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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:08pm

"Marriage equality" and "discrimination" are words chucked around by many who want Same Sex Marriage as a way of avoiding actual debate. Too many use these as a form of guilt tripping and attacking the opposition to SSM.

True marriage equality can not expand to include one group and ignore all others. SSM may broaden the inclusion zone of marriage, but it still maintains barriers and excludes many other forms or relationships. It is certainly not true "marriage equality".

Same deal with discrimination. The word is thrown around as an insult towards any who would argue against SSM. But most who want SSM still want to discriminate. They don't want marriage for all but simply want to include same sex into marriage. This means they want to move the line to include same sex and then draw a new line to exclude all others. If any and all discrimination is bad then the same sex marriage supporters who use such arguments are simply hypocrites. They basically say that discrimination against them is wrong, but it is ok to discriminate against all others.

The reality is that no one who claims to want "marriage equality" and to remove "discrimination" in marriage actually want to have true equality and no discrimination. Instead they just want to have slightly less discrimination that what we currently have. Now that itself is fine, but you can not accuse people of discrimination just because they have a slightly more traditional line in the sand than you do.

If someone wants to argue for SSM then fine... argue for it. Stop chucking easy words like "equality" and "discrimination" around and then say; 'but it is still ok to exclude these people.'

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #10 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:09pm

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

What other groups?

Any group that wants marriage equality

For example.....?

(1) Between family immediate members

(2) Between 1 man and many women

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

looking to marry your sister Gumpy? What a dumb statement

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals Reply #11 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 5:08am Just a dumb thread. Still, it gave Quantum a chance to indulge in semantics, so I guess it isn't all bad. Personally, I believe giraffes should be allowed to marry hippos and will not cease to lobby for this until successful.
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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #12 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 5:44am

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Has anyone heard social apologists pushing for marriage equality for any other group or is equality only worthy if you are a homosexual?

First you ppl push the nonsense that if we allow gay marriage other groups will want it too. Now you say that nobody else wants it so gays shouldn't have it either?

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Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals
Reply #13 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:31am

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

(1) Between family immediate members

No need: a legal kinship already exists.

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

(2) Between 1 man and many women

Yes, and I have no problem with that.

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:11pm:

(3) Between 1 woman and many men

Yes, and I have no problem with that.

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BlOoDy RiPpEr Gold Member Offline aussie-patriot.com Posts: 2475 Sydney Gender:	Re: Marriage equality only for homosexuals Reply #14 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 9:07am Next on the list is public toilets, Men who dress like women will want equal rights to female toilets. They will cry discrimination.
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