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Reply #165 - May 25^th, 2013 at 1:43pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 7:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 8:14am:

Hang em and hang em high.

Hang the bastards in public.

I say hang teh ignorant gits!!!

Because being uninformed, wanting to live a willfully ignorant life, is the cause of most of the evil in this world.

Whereas, if people were willing to inform themselves about what is true, their consciences would then speak to them, and those people would not allow wickedness to be near them.

But so many people, just want to wallow in their [opinionated] ignorance.

[the opinions of the ignorant are formed, based on what allows them to experience pleasure.
whatever allows them to experience pleasure, is deemed to be good.
what prevents them from experiencing pleasure, is deemed to be evil.
and the willful ignorance remains.]

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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #166 - May 25^th, 2013 at 1:48pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Grey wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Oh gawd,

Look it's a tragedy but the comments on here are side splitting. Whatever madness the Nigerians have got it seems to be catching.

If it had been a white guy with any sentiments of nationalism who had done such a thing you'd be screaming "Nazi," "Nazi," "Nazi" and frothing at the mouth with moral tirades.

But because it's a Muslim and the victim was white, it's just a "tragedy".

Isn't that the truth though.

And then we have the British prime minister desperate to tell everyone this had "nothing to do with Islam" ... just as Bush did following the tragedy of 9/11.

"Nothing to do with Islam".

So which Muslim sects have nothing to do with Islam ~ after all ~ they're blowing each other up by the score?

They can't all be the genuine thing if they're blowing up their competitors. Religion of Peace, remember? Non violence.

Somebody should have asked David Campbell to tell us which is the 'real' Islam.

Which is the 'True Islam' version? Which ones can we discount as the phonies and the frauds ... Shia? Sunni? Wahhabi?

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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #167 - May 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

That's rubbish Whitey -

the Bible commands [b]Christians to kill:

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http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

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Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Your quotes are taken from the Old Testament - the TOrah - the bible for the Jews.

Christians follow the New Testament - the Gospels

Where in the Gospels or in the life of Jesus does it command Christians to kill?

You may be confusing Jews with Christians - Jews reject Christianity remember?

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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #169 - May 25^th, 2013 at 1:53pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

None of you right wingers speak for us Christians...we do not believe in an eye for an eye...

Christians are forbidden to rebel...

Christians believe in the welfare state, big Government, high taxes, tariffs, jobs for life...

Christians are not allowed to fight in the army or kill, we are not permitted to defend ourselves or earn blood money through violence...The Bible absolutely forbids it...

corporate_whitey,

All of your posts that i have seen, are dedicated to one objective.

You are just trying to muddy teh waters.

To obfuscate.

Dictionary;
obfuscate = =
1 make unclear or unintelligible.
2 bewilder.

You are merely a malicious git.

I would like to know what is motivating you.

But i have a fair idea.

You are a person who hates truth.

Too bad.

People like yourself, will lose.

Truth wins.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London Reply #170 - May 25^th, 2013 at 1:59pm You Atgheists do not speak for us Christians, our beliefs and you do not interpret the Bible for us...the Bible absolutely forbids violence of any kind from Christians, it forbids revenge, it forbids an eye for an eye end of story....
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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #171 - May 25^th, 2013 at 2:20pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Grey wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Oh gawd,

Look it's a tragedy but the comments on here are side splitting. Whatever madness the Nigerians have got it seems to be catching.

If it had been a white guy with any sentiments of nationalism who had done such a thing you'd be screaming "Nazi," "Nazi," "Nazi" and frothing at the mouth with moral tirades.

But because it's a Muslim and the victim was white, it's just a "tragedy".

Isn't that the truth though.

And then we have the British prime minister desperate to tell everyone this had "nothing to do with Islam" ... just as Bush did following the tragedy of 9/11.

"Nothing to do with Islam".

So which Muslim sects have nothing to do with Islam ~ after all ~ they're blowing each other up by the score?

They can't all be the genuine thing if they're blowing up their competitors. Religion of Peace, remember? Non violence.

Somebody should have asked David Campbell to tell us which is the 'real' Islam.

Which is the 'True Islam' version? Which ones can we discount as the phonies and the frauds ...

Shia?

Sunni?

Wahhabi?

The ISLAM of the Koran, is the 'True ISLAM'.

The Koran is >> the << primary foundation text of ISLAM.

And therefore, the content of the Koran, must be an accurate reflection of the values which ISLAM projects into the hearts of all true moslems.....

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 004.144

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

Moslems insist that ISLAM is a tolerant and peaceful religion.

It is not.

AND;

All moslems living among us [in the West] are deceitful and duplicitous lying scum, who are INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting ISLAM to their host nations.iGoogle;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;

we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-wariThe words of an ISLAMIC scholar...

Quote:

London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

A PROPOSITION IN LOGIC;

The contents of ISLAM's own foundation texts, the Koran and Hadith, and the unguarded declarations of many moslems themselves,
....ARE A WITNESS AGAINST THE CRIMINAL INTENT OF MOSLEMS - TOWARDS THOSE WHO ARE NOT MOSLEMS.

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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #172 - May 25^th, 2013 at 2:31pm

Yadda wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

None of you right wingers speak for us Christians...we do not believe in an eye for an eye...

Christians are forbidden to rebel...

Christians believe in the welfare state, big Government, high taxes, tariffs, jobs for life...

Christians are not allowed to fight in the army or kill, we are not permitted to defend ourselves or earn blood money through violence...The Bible absolutely forbids it...

corporate_whitey,

All of your posts that i have seen, are dedicated to one objective.

You are just trying to muddy teh waters.

To obfuscate.

Dictionary;
obfuscate = =
1 make unclear or unintelligible.
2 bewilder.

You are merely a malicious git.

I would like to know what is motivating you.

But i have a fair idea.

You are a person who hates truth.

Too bad.

People like yourself, will lose.

Truth wins.

Your projecting what you yourself are doing, the Bible makes it very clear, Christians are forbidden to retaliate violence with violence and to repay evil with evil...on the contrary we must bless those who curse us...the Bible is absolutely clear and unambiguous on this...

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Reply #173 - May 25^th, 2013 at 2:37pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Grey wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Oh gawd,

Look it's a tragedy but the comments on here are side splitting. Whatever madness the Nigerians have got it seems to be catching.

If it had been a white guy with any sentiments of nationalism who had done such a thing you'd be screaming "Nazi," "Nazi," "Nazi" and frothing at the mouth with moral tirades.

But because it's a Muslim and the victim was white, it's just a "tragedy".

Really?

Which community was to blame for the Breveik shooting?

We were all rightly disgusted by it , but I didn't hear any calls to expel white people from Norway.

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Reply #174 - May 25^th, 2013 at 2:47pm

Luke Fowler wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Grey wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Oh gawd,

Look it's a tragedy but the comments on here are side splitting. Whatever madness the Nigerians have got it seems to be catching.

If it had been a white guy with any sentiments of nationalism who had done such a thing you'd be screaming "Nazi," "Nazi," "Nazi" and frothing at the mouth with moral tirades.

But because it's a Muslim and the victim was white, it's just a "tragedy".

Really?

Which community was to blame for the Breveik shooting?

We were all rightly disgusted by it , but I didn't hear any calls to expel white people from Norway.

Considering whites are indigenous to Norway it would be a stupid proposition anyway.

I am not sure if you're familiar with Grey's posting history, but he is fervently anti-nationalism. Calling those who display any national sentiment a "Nazi" is one of his favourite comebacks.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London Reply #175 - May 25^th, 2013 at 2:48pm The Bible is vividly clear that Christians are foprbidden from hating their enemies or taking revenge...we are commanded to love our enemies, pray for them and bless them. There is no mistaking this....The will of God is clear....
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Reply #176 - May 25^th, 2013 at 3:08pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Yadda wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

None of you right wingers speak for us Christians...we do not believe in an eye for an eye...

Christians are forbidden to rebel...

Christians believe in the welfare state, big Government, high taxes, tariffs, jobs for life...

Christians are not allowed to fight in the army or kill, we are not permitted to defend ourselves or earn blood money through violence...The Bible absolutely forbids it...

corporate_whitey,

All of your posts that i have seen, are dedicated to one objective.

You are just trying to muddy teh waters.

To obfuscate.

Dictionary;
obfuscate = =
1 make unclear or unintelligible.
2 bewilder.

You are merely a malicious git.

I would like to know what is motivating you.

But i have a fair idea.

You are a person who hates truth.

Too bad.

People like yourself, will lose.

Truth wins.

Your projecting what you yourself are doing, the Bible makes it very clear, Christians are forbidden to retaliate violence with violence and to repay evil with evil...on the contrary we must bless those who curse us...the Bible is absolutely clear and unambiguous on this...

Doesn't change the fact that you are a very deceitful person.

Pretending in this forum, to have embraced something which you have not.

And you don't have a care [about that], i know.

You are a SATANIST.

John 8:44

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London Reply #177 - May 25^th, 2013 at 3:23pm Right wing anarchists and libertarians are Nazis....lets not kid ourselves, history is irrefutable on this...
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Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London
Reply #178 - May 25^th, 2013 at 3:49pm

corporate_whitey wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:

The Bible is vividly clear that Christians are forbidden from hating their enemies or taking revenge...we are commanded to love our enemies, pray for them and bless them. There is no mistaking this....The will of God is clear....

Rubbish:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

Quote:

“Thou Shall Not Ignore the Old Testament!”

New Testament Verses Which Demand Following the Old Testament and Law Contradictions:

I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it! After this section I shall list where the Bible contradicts itself concerning other laws.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Muslim men hack British soldier to death in London Reply #179 - May 25^th, 2013 at 4:20pm The Biblem makes it clear Christians are not allowed to hate their enemies...you right wingers do not speak for us Christians or Jesus...we are forbidden from military service or shedding blood...
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