Chimp_Logic wrote on May 26^th, 2013 at 9:53pm:


Which one is the guy who got beheaded on the street?

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=874923

M16 under pressure over soldier murder
Updated: 08:50, Saturday May 25, 2013



Britain's intelligence services are under pressure to explain how they let two Islamic extremists suspected of hacking a soldier to death in London slip through their net.

Michael Adebolajo, 28, and Michael Adebowale, 22, who remain under armed guard in hospital after being shot by police at the scene, were known to the intelligence services but reportedly assessed as not posing a deadly threat.

The distraught wife of the murdered soldier Lee Rigby said on Friday the family found it hard to accept the 25-year-old had been killed not in a war zone but on the streets of his own country.

A huge pile of floral tributes continues to grow outside the barracks in Woolwich, south London, where Rigby was brutally attacked on Wednesday afternoon.

More details have emerged about Adebolajo, who was born to devout Nigerian Christians but converted to Islam a decade ago and attended meetings of the extremist group Al-Muhajiroun, which is now banned in Britain.

He reportedly sold inflammatory literature at a stall in Woolwich, where his increasingly extremist behaviour in recent weeks alarmed other Muslims.

Reports say Adebolajo attempted to travel to Somalia to fight alongside al-Qaeda-linked Shebab insurgents but was turned back and had his passport confiscated by police.

He was captured on film shortly after the attack brandishing a bloodied knife and meat cleaver and claiming he had killed the soldier because British forces killed Muslims every day.

Less is known about the other suspect but he is also believed to be of Nigerian origin.

Dramatic footage of the incident on the Mirror newspaper's website also showed Adebolajo charging at a policewoman before he was shot and injured.

As detectives try to establish how Adebolajo apparently went from an outspoken convert to a killer, the government is being forced to defend the security services against criticism they missed signs which might have helped prevent the grisly murder.

A parliamentary committee will look into the role of the security services, but communities minister Eric Pickles said on Friday even if the men had been known to intelligence agencies, it was impossible to keep tabs on everyone all the time.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 25^th, 2013 at 2:47pm:


No, you are misrepresenting me as usual. I call any politically active organisation Nazi, that uses threats and actual violence against persons or property. Especially when they have extremist racist policies.

I have made it quite clear that I regard 'Nationalism' as nothing but silliness. It's a silliness that I endulge at times myself. I'm real proud of this great country of ours.

And what's more I have never wavered in my support for war against Islamofascists. I do not accept that all Muslims are dangerous extremists, even though a fair number are at this time. At other times a fair number of Christians have been Christofascists. But you know, kill all the Taliban you like, not a squeak I promise you. And any hate speaking imans in Australia; take 'em out to the territorial limit and drop them off, by helicopter if you like.

It's just that these two guys are nothing but idiots. Put them down by all means, but no political significance can be attributed to the action of lunatics.

Kat wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 1:15am:


Very well said. Uncommon commonsense. It doesn't make you 'Rightwing' or 'racist' or bigoted' or 'xenophobic' to want your generational homeland society to be rid of this evil scourge that is a sexually transmitted disease from father to son, and the generations thereafter.

Grey wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 1:52am:


You were doing okay until you soiled yourself by making this Useful Idiot apologist statement.

The Muslim community should be paying you a fee for propagandising on their behalf.

Let's re-write your sentence with a little more attention to what actually prompted these two Englishmen to do what they did. (They are not 'Nigerians' and they are not 'foreigners'. They are UK-born Englishmen, born and bred).

Here we go, Mr Grey. Thank you for being patient.

Original: "It's just that these two guys are nothing but idiots".

De-coded version: "It's just that these two killers are nothing but Fundamentalist Muslims".

Grey wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 1:52am:


Instant de-coding ...".... to the actions of activist fundamentalist Muslims".

You can say these things if you lose your fear, Mr Grey. It doesn't make you a bad person to state the truth on behalf of identifying creeds and dogmas that are inimical to the current and future good health of your own society.

These killers took their authority from Islam. Your tongue won't turn to stone if you dare to enunciate these words.   

Try it yourself ...

"These killers took their authority from Islam"...

(No. You won't be excommunicated and burn in Hell for saying that).

Well that won't work so we are stuck with a government who refuses to admit we have a problem here in Oz.  David Cameron needs to do something - his people are crying out for justice but he won’t give them what they want – to get rid of them,  pass a law that enables Britain to deport them and their families back to the home of their ancestors, no matter if they were born in Britain or not.  But what does he do?  He sets up a special task force. Pathetic.

toots wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 8:32am:


Exactly.

Muslims who show any tendency for 'jihad' should be deported ~ together with their extended families.

By a process of gradual elimination it would take only a few years for the religiously besotted to be sieved out of the Muslim community and expelled from the country.

The most peaceful and harmless Muslims are those who have allowed themselves to become Westernised and secularised away from obsessive religiosity.