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Where are the defenders of all things Islam
May 23rd, 2013 at 4:58pm
 
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/17290526/appalling-attack-in-britain-likely-terrorist-related-pm/



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Reply #1 - May 23rd, 2013 at 5:16pm
 
I dont think turning this into exactly what they would do under the same circumstances... fanaticism    is that what you want here??..is terrorism Islam I dont think so... look at Ireland.
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Reply #2 - May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm
 
gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.

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Reply #3 - May 23rd, 2013 at 5:51pm
 
____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm:
gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.





you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why
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Reply #4 - May 23rd, 2013 at 5:55pm
 
cods wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:51pm:
____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm:
gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.





you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why


Observations of Abbott's many weaknesses is not hate.
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Reply #5 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:05pm
 
Why would woof woof assume anyone would defend the actions of a couple of murderers?
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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:13pm
 
its what they are representing that should be of concern..............
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Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
I thought this was an interesting read, seems history will repeat itself as we clearly have learnt nothing from it.
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Some Western countries have banned Islamic immigration, others have always banned it and have escaped the worst of what Islam has to offer.

The word “Barbaric” conjures up lessons never learnt...

From the North African Barbary Coast in 395 AD, Barbarian tribes conducted murderous forays into the Roman Empire.

They also infiltrated Rome from the north but the mighty empire foolishly ignored the invasion as something that could be contained.

Soon, many Barbarians began to settle deep within the borders of the empire. It was allowed to happen despite the Barbarian culture openly embracing a bloodthirsty and arrogant war-like lifestyle.

Once they had infiltrated in sufficient numbers they attacked the city of Rome itself, slaughtering and raping Roman citizens, looting and laying waste to the Eternal City.

By 412 AD, they had gained sufficient momentum to attack Spain and parts of what is now France.

The Roman Empire, along with its mighty legions, was brought to its knees by the immigration of a subversive foreign culture.

Rome was to regret that it did not initially meet the Barbarian threat head on when it could easily have dealt with it.

Sixteen hundred years later we discard history in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.

And it’s not as if Islam hasn’t given us notice of what it intends to achieve.

A line in the sand needs to be drawn... and soon.


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Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:20pm
 
woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:13pm:
its what they are representing that should be of concern..............


So we should pay attention to the rantings of a couple of nutjob killers?
A dog tells a nut job yank to be a serial killer so we say all dogs want us to bump each other off.. Cheesy
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Reply #9 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:25pm
 
Lets face it..if crazies are going to hack someone the death with meat cleavers and butchers knives they can claim anything they like but in the end they are just nutjob murderers.
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Reply #10 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:36pm
 
Crikey the Irish Catholics have made a national sport out of killing English soldiers and police in every horrific way they can think of so do we have a panic attack every time we see a Catholic or the Irish.
Murderers are murderers no matter what excuse they use.
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Reply #11 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:37pm
 
____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:55pm:
cods wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:51pm:
____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm:
gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.





you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why


Observations of Abbott's many weaknesses is not hate.




just read some of them froma righties perspective. you will see what I mean...try reading adelcrow when hes on a rampage..

as a righty I see them as pure HATE
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Reply #12 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:38pm
 
woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:13pm:
its what they are representing that should be of concern..............







A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain said:

"This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly.
Our thoughts are with the victim and his family"



http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/latest/17290085/appalling-attack-in-britain-l...




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Reply #13 - May 23rd, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:38pm:
woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:13pm:
its what they are representing that should be of concern..............







A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain said:

"This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly.
Our thoughts are with the victim and his family"



http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/latest/17290085/appalling-attack-in-britain-l...






But Buzz...we should only listen to the rantings of the killers..not an organisation representing Muslim Brits.
You're not playing the game the media wants us to play  Cheesy
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Reply #14 - May 23rd, 2013 at 7:44pm
 
woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:
They also infiltrated Rome from the north but the mighty empire foolishly ignored the invasion as something that could be contained.

Soon, many Barbarians began to settle deep within the borders of the empire. It was allowed to happen despite the Barbarian culture openly embracing a bloodthirsty and arrogant war-like lifestyle.


I don't think that is an accurate understanding of how the Roman Empire buckled under pressure from the barbarian tribes, not from all the books I read on the subject when I was in high school. The prevailing message was twofold: (1) by the time the barbarian hordes started invading the Empire, the Empire had already been suffering from two centuries of civil war and political instability, of emperors being assassinated, challenged by rebellious generals and deposed; (2) it was not complacency that doomed the Empire, but military weakness due to internal collapse. The Roman Army fought the barbarian hordes but could not hold them back. It suffered from defeat after defeat because it consisted mostly of infantry, which could not hold back an enemy that used cavalry as its main offensive weapon.

woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:
The Roman Empire, along with its mighty legions, was brought to its knees by the immigration of a subversive foreign culture.


It was the other way round. The barbarians weren't much of a civilisation. They started to integrate Roman ideas into their own cultures. They became more Roman. Of course they didn't stop raiding villages. It took a while to end their barbarian ways and put down the sword.

woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:
Rome was to regret that it did not initially meet the Barbarian threat head on when it could easily have dealt with it.


No, it couldn't. It would never have defeated the barbarians, even if it started from day one. Marcus Aurelius was the last of the great emperors who ever confronted them. It was too weak militarily and it wasn't politically stable. Their infantry was ineffective against barbarian cavalry. The government was barely functioning.

As the Empire grew weaker, some emperors and some generals started using the barbarian tribes for their own selfish agendas. Emperors used them as mercenaries to maintain their power. Rebellious generals used them as allies to subvert the authority of the emperor. The barbarian tribes started to replace the traditional Roman army.

woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:
Sixteen hundred years later we discard history in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.


You're trying to twist ancient history to describe what you see as a modern problem. It didn't happen the way you're describing here. The Romans were never strong enough to beat the barbarians. They had the wrong weapons and tactics.
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