How can we Australians determine, who truly represents ISLAMIC values - who is a real moslem ?
According to gandalf;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1368061769/12#12....i am misinterpreting ISLAMIC religious texts, and therefore also, i am misrepresenting the intent of the moslem community towards, the larger non-moslem host community.
gandalf insists that the 'mainstream' of the moslem community in Australia, are tolerant and good people who, like all other Australians, just want to get on with their lives.
If we are to believe this proposition presented by gandalf [and by many other moslems], then we have to believe that being a moslem, is totally unconnected to ISLAMIC theology.
That proposition
, presented by gandalf, is a lie.
Proof, that the proposition presented by gandalf, is a lie ?
Firstly, the proposition, that being a moslem, is totally unconnected to ISLAMIC theology, is an absurdity.But in spite of that absurd claim, how can we determine, with certainty, who is a real moslem ?
How can we determine what [it is, that] those who claim to be representative 'mainstream' of moslems, truly represent ?
And how can we tell, if the moslem who 'presents' as moderate and tolerant [of others], is the presenting the real moslem 'persona'?
BUT FIRSTLY;Lets examine the example of behavior that Mohammed [a moslem] exhibited when showing his moslem face, to 'disbelievers'.
" The Prophet said, "War is deceit." "
bukhari/ #004.052.269
AND;
Mohammed's god said;
"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98
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So if,
1/ "War is deceit", and,
2/ if moslems know that they are at war with those who do not believe as they believe,
....then how can we [the naive non-moslems] know, who is a real moslem ?
Well, we [the naive non-moslems] can be certain of this;
Mohammed, the messenger of Allah, was certainly a 'real' moslem.
ISLAM itself, attests to that concrete fact.
So, if we want to know
what conduct and behavior is [and must be] acceptable to every moslem, then all we need to do is to examine the conduct and behavior of >> the << most 'exemplary' moslem known to history - Mohammed, the messenger of Allah.
OR, is the worldwide moslem community of 'moderate' moslems going to now claim that the life of Mohammed was not an example of how moslems should live and conduct their own lives ?
???
Allah himself declared, that
because Mohammed was an extraordinarily righteous man [in Allah's eyes], that Mohammed was
the example, the type of man that other moslem men were to imitate, in
their own deeds.
"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.21
LET US EXAMINE MOHAMMED, THE PERSONAs i have suggested, ISLAMIC texts present Mohammed as the exemplary human,
AND, as the exemplary moslem.
So [according to ISLAM] it is Mohammed - who is the exemplary moslem.
And according to ISLAM, Mohammed was person whose life, all moslems must try to imitate - if they want to please Allah.
Quote:A Beautiful Pattern of Conduct
.....It is a basic principle of Islam that a Muslim should follow the example of the Prophet Mohammad. This is stated in the Quran (Islam's holiest book) no less than 91 times. This is one of the most dangerous and misunderstood facts about Islam. How does a Muslim know how to be a Muslim? By following Mohammad as an example. A Muslim cannot read the Qur'an and discover how to be a Muslim. Not one of the "five pillars of Islam" is in the Qur'an. So it is almost impossible for someone to be a Muslim but not consider Mohammad an example to emulate.
What kind of example was Mohammad? He was kind to his fellow Muslims, and he was often cruel to non-Muslims, especially if they criticized Islam or hindered its relentless expansion. He was perhaps a typical seventh-century warlord — ordering assassinations of his enemies, torturing people for information, owning slaves and having sex with them, and killing enemies in mass executions — but his example is preserved in writing, and so is the Qur'anic encouragement to all devout Muslims to follow his example.
....Muslims are supposed to follow Mohammad's example, as it says more than seventy times in the Qur'an, Islam's most important holy book.
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BUT UPON EXAMINATION OF HIS CONDUCT, DON'T WE DETERMINE THAT THE BEHAVIOR OF MOHAMMED, WAS THE BEHAVIOR OF A VIOLENT CRIMINAL ?ONCE AGAIN!....To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.
And all of the criminal acts which Mohammed is recorded to have committed [LYING, DECEPTION, murder, rape, enslavement, robbery, piracy], were sanctioned by Allah - and therefore were 'lawful' by ISLAMIC law.
So, it cannot be denied;
In ISLAM, Mohammed [and all of his righteous deeds], is the 'gold standard', conduct wise, for other moslems.
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