polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:


auissie does not ban movie on religious grounds, or because some here ill riot because their religios beliefs might be offended.

islam is repressive, oppressive, violent and offensive.

I hate islam.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 7:47am:


so says an obsessive cult member

I was talking to a driver at my workplace today who delivers around Campsie, Lakemba etc. He was complaining of the smell of the local butcher shops and the general untidiness of these suburbs. Get this, he's been called a white devil by members of the local Islamic community. Very alarming.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2014 at 7:47am:



Don't be daft.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 7^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:


That's because you have no concept of the significance of freedom of speech. To you it's all just "wishy washy western liberal morals" that you can pick and choose from depending on which way the wind is blowing.

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It does matter, because the justifications that people will accept for censorship reveal the extent to which they value freedom of speech. There is a big difference between watching a woman getting beaten and raped on screen, and watching someone depict a historical figure. That you cannot tell the difference shows how infantile your concept of freedom of speech is, and that your proclaimed support for freedom of speech is a mere facade.

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He sounds like a bigot. I bet he didn't even point out that not all of them do this.

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You are thinking of long nosed devil.

Elsewhere in cuddly Malaysia:

KUALA LUMPUR, April 8 — Liberalism, the philosophy founded on liberty and equality, is the manifestation of Satan’s struggle to mislead mankind, a leading member of Islamist group Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) said today.

According to Isma central committee member Mohamad Ismail, liberalism has tried to unravel the faith of Muslims through the use of slogans and rational arguments, which he claimed to be distorted from the truth.

Liberalism encompasses a wide array of ideas, but its supporters usually push for civil rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, free trade, private property, and free and fair elections.

“Their work methods are not much different,” Mohamad said in a column on Isma’s website, where he drew parallels between liberals and Satan.

“They hide behind false arguments and jargons which look pretty, but in spirit are deviant and far away from the guidance of syarak,” the preacher added, using the Malay word for the Islamic moral code.

In Quranic lore, Syaitan, or Satan, is the Devil who was originally a djinn that refused to bow down to Adam, the first Man, and was cursed by God to spend his life in hell for eternity.

However, Satan requested for his punishment to be deferred until the Day of Judgment, until which he and his minions are said to entice humans into committing sin.

In his mission to mislead mankind, Mohamad claimed that Satan had managed to turn humans away from God through the pursuit of certain philosophies.

He named as examples Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Islamic figure Abdullah Saba’, whom Sunni Muslims see as one of the founders of the Shiah school of Islam and which has been branded deviant in Malaysia

- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/isma-preacher-labels-liberalism-a-manifestation-of-satans-agenda#sthash.phZUDbSt.dpuf


ANy mosque-going Muslim would go along with this guy's ideas. This is mainstream Muslim thinking and not just in cuddly Malaysia.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2014 at 7:52am:


So it's all OK unless it "breaks" democracy? Or did you forget that we are talking about freedom? Like I said, this merely shows that your proclaimed support for freedom of speech is merely a facade. You don't even know why someone might support it.

Your previously claimed that there are "only two" reasons you would reject freedom of speech, yet it seems that you come up with a new reason for every possible scenario.