Soren wrote on Apr 30^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:


Sounds like the Christian Brothers are churning out plenty of lefties.

True Colours wrote on Apr 30^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:


No no, the old boy’s a Lutheran. He studied at the prestigious University of Balogney.

Thanks, old boy. Your sole contribution to this thread is the contention that one was sexually abused by the Christian Brothers.

Marvellous stuff.

It must be said that the experience has compelled one to seek a life-affirming revenge on flirty old boy teases with their shaved legs in the air.

What doesn’t kill one, only makes one stronger, what.

Would a cuddle and a kiss help with the dilation?

That's our rich Brittanic heritage for you, True. It's hardly proof of FD's claim that exporting Freedom and demokracy has created wealth.

Is murder factored into GDP?

It's important to note, however, that it's impossible to factor our "rich Brittanic heritage" into the murder rates of mainly warring African countries - just as it's equally ridiculous to say British colonial rule is responsible for Lee Quan Yew's Singapore, but not Jinnah's Pakistan. 

Murder rate compared to GDP would make much more sense as a predictor of future trends. The US, of course, has the highest murder rate in the developed world at 4.8. This varies wildly, however, from state to state and year to year. In 2003, for example, the murder rate for Washington DC was 44.7, making it one of the highest murder rates that year in the world.

Interestingly, the current national murder rate in the US (4.8) compares to the developing economy of the Philippines (5.4). In the Philippines, you're scanned for guns when you go into shopping centres and car parks.

The country with the highest murder rate since 1995 is El Salvador, that marvellous example of US Freedom-exporting during the Reagan era. in 1995, the murder rate there was a whopping 139.1.

In the top 10 rates since 1995, the list comprises solely of countries in the US's backyard, all corrupt Central American countries with heavy CIA/DEA involvement and US corporate rule. You know, drinking run and Coca-Cola, working for the Yankee dollar - largely the Yankee drug dollar.

Muslim countries? Not one in the top 10. Whoever would believe it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#Top_...

Soren wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 2:56pm:


You mean like banning chewing gum? Caning people for littering? Refusing visas on arrival to male tourists with hair below their collars? 

Good idea. I'll send a letter to Pakistani Railways Minister, Ahmed Ghulam Bilour. He simply loves Freedom.

Soren wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 2:56pm:


This, of course, is the question that haunts this thread. Why can't the cash-crop economy of Pakistan become South East Asia's trade and financial centre? They have a race track, a Cricket Club, an elite clique of cashed-up oligarchs and organised crime syndicates.

Why?

We all know why, friends: the devious criminal mind of the Muselman and his sinister prophet.

Always, absolutely, never ever - on stilts. Ever. Stilts.

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 3:39pm:


No no, the old boy's saying the Amerikans gave up trying, letting them move into our schools and neighbourhoods, letting them eat in our diners, use our toilets, and even sit anywhere they want on the bus, it's ridiculous. For heaven's sake, we even released them from slavery.

Typical.

No, we need a return to good old fashioned Freedom. That should fix it.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 3:39pm:





My point exactly - they can't have it both ways.
1. When they were treated as inferiors, that wasn't good.  It was oppressive.
2. Now that they are given freedom and equality, that's no good either. They have ghetto culture and violence and are killing each other coz white looks down on these cultural achievements.


The same in Africa, by the way. Colonialism - no good. Liberation: even worse. African countries, now led by their own people for decades, are worse off than they were under colonialism. They have been free to return to their pre-colonial, tribal ways.
Arab countries are the same - back to tribalism:

Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.


etc.



You can show them a better way but they need to take it and make it their own. As Dorothy Parker said in a different context, you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think. Same with post colonial countries.  Some can think: Australia, Canada, NZ. Others can't - most of the rest of the previous colonies. They have a huge preference for a return to "sloth and heathen Folly".