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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26500 Australia	Re: Why was he free in Aust ? Reply #15 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 6:06am You have a problem with muslims. We all get that. Seriously every crime isnt committed by a muslim and every muslim isnt a criminal. Tone it down a bit. . . . think . . . . get some therapy. SOB
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Reply #16 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:33am

Soren wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:43pm:

As if that made any difference -even when they behead a British soldier in London, shouting allahu akhbar, and giving all the Koranic justification, chapter and verse, you will say it has nothing to do with Islam.

No, that was very good evidence that it was committed in the name of islam. Supported by the fact that I have already acknowledged very openly that that crime was committed in the name of islam. So there goes that strawman.

A bearded man with a muslim-sounding name killing his ex-girlfriend on the other hand is not itself evidence of a crime committed in the name of islam. Even you should be able to understand that Soren.

After having your fairy tales exposed about what caused the Swedish riots, I can't believe you would have the gaul to come out swinging like this again. Like SOB says, you have a completely irrational problem with muslims. You need to get the bugger over yourself.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:05am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:33am:

Soren wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:43pm:

As if that made any difference -even when they behead a British soldier in London, shouting allahu akhbar, and giving all the Koranic justification, chapter and verse, you will say it has nothing to do with Islam.

No, that was very good evidence that it was committed in the name of islam. Supported by the fact that I have already acknowledged very openly that that crime was committed in the name of islam. So there goes that strawman.

A bearded man with a muslim-sounding name killing his ex-girlfriend on the other hand is not itself evidence of a crime committed in the name of islam. Even you should be able to understand that Soren.

After having your fairy tales exposed about what caused the Swedish riots, I can't believe you would have the gaul to come out swinging like this again. Like SOB says, you have a completely irrational problem with muslims. You need to get the bugger over yourself.

And lets turn a blind eye to the guy who raped and killed Reba meagher, Dean the nurse who killed those nursing home residents or the 16 innocent afghanis killed by a poor rogue American soldier.

Its all islams fault I say.

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Reply #18 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm

All over the western world a majority of citizens still identify themselves as "christian" - mostly non-practicing, but christian nonetheless.

When an anglo-white person commits a garden-variety murder, no one thinks to label this as a "christian" crime - even though, statistically, the perpetrator is likely to identify himself as a christian.

When a brown immigrant with a muslim-sounding name commits a garden-variety murder, the media correctly does not label this as an "islamic" crime - even though its more than likely the perpetrator would identify as a muslim. Yet the Soren's of this world are immediately up in arms crying out blue murder that the crime wasn't labelled as a specifically "islamic" crime. I would not mind so much if the Soren's of this world would also be up in arms whenever whilte-anglo crime is not labelled as a specifically "christian" crime. Of course, doing either is equally absurd.

I have no beef with labelling crime "islamic" where there is evidence that it was committed in the name of islam - as with the UK beheading incident - the perpetrator invoked Allah, and quoted from the quran to justify his actions. But I will challenge anyone who cries "islamic crime" purely on the fact that the perpetrator has a beard and an islamic-sounding name.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #19 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:17pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

All over the western world a majority of citizens still identify themselves as "christian" - mostly non-practicing, but christian nonetheless.

When an anglo-white person commits a garden-variety murder, no one thinks to label this as a "christian" crime - even though, statistically, the perpetrator is likely to identify himself as a christian.

When a brown immigrant with a muslim-sounding name commits a garden-variety murder, the media correctly does not label this as an "islamic" crime - even though its more than likely the perpetrator would identify as a muslim. Yet the Soren's of this world are immediately up in arms crying out blue murder that the crime wasn't labelled as a specifically "islamic" crime. I would not mind so much if the Soren's of this world would also be up in arms whenever whilte-anglo crime is not labelled as a specifically "christian" crime. Of course, doing either is equally absurd.

I have no beef with labelling crime "islamic" where there is evidence that it was committed in the name of islam - as with the UK beheading incident - the perpetrator invoked Allah, and quoted from the quran to justify his actions. But I will challenge anyone who cries "islamic crime" purely on the fact that the perpetrator has a beard and an islamic-sounding name.

How many people do you imagine you'll be able to 'challenge' in your lifetime (which could end in five minutes, tomorrow, ten or 50 years time) ?

How many do you imagine you'll be able to challenge compared with opinions formed each and every day in the minds of billions ?

Pretty small potatoes, aren't you?

Then we come to Spot of Borg who has convinced me he/she/it posts simplistic, deliberately provocative comments in the HOPE of gulling someone into a heated response which Spot of Borg's owners/employers can attempt to translate into something which will satisfy FOB and the Jewish Council's screams for sacrificial lambs in the name of some form of 'discrimination'

which they can them parlay into a headline 'discrimination' case complete with $27,000 fine and 3.5 years behind bars

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Reply #20 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

All over the western world a majority of citizens still identify themselves as "christian" - mostly non-practicing, but christian nonetheless.

When an anglo-white person commits a garden-variety murder, no one thinks to label this as a "christian" crime - even though, statistically, the perpetrator is likely to identify himself as a christian.

When a brown immigrant with a muslim-sounding name commits a garden-variety murder, the media correctly does not label this as an "islamic" crime - even though its more than likely the perpetrator would identify as a muslim. Yet the Soren's of this world are immediately up in arms crying out blue murder that the crime wasn't labelled as a specifically "islamic" crime. I would not mind so much if the Soren's of this world would also be up in arms whenever whilte-anglo crime is not labelled as a specifically "christian" crime. Of course, doing either is equally absurd.

I have no beef with labelling crime "islamic" where there is evidence that it was committed in the name of islam - as with the UK beheading incident - the perpetrator invoked Allah, and quoted from the quran to justify his actions. But I will challenge anyone who cries "islamic crime" purely on the fact that the perpetrator has a beard and an islamic-sounding name.

Beheading is Islamic. Not murder. Beheading. Islamic ritual execution.

The victim:

Muslim man yelling Allahu Akhbar beheads wife in front of their 6 children

"Moderate" Muslim founder of outreach TV station beheads wife

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 6:06am:

You have a problem with muslims. We all get that. Seriously every crime isnt committed by a muslim and every muslim isnt a criminal. Tone it down a bit. . . . think . . . . get some therapy.

SOB

Muslim name + beheading = it has EVERYTHING to do with Islam.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Why was he free in Aust ? Reply #21 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm Soren wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:40pm: Beheading is Islamic. Not murder. Beheading. Islamic ritual execution. Plenty of non-muslims commit murder by beheading. I'm not saying he doesn't identify as muslim - he probably does. But where is the evidence he committed this crime in the name of islam? There is none.
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Reply #22 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 7:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Beheading is Islamic. Not murder. Beheading. Islamic ritual execution.

Plenty of non-muslims commit murder by beheading.

I'm not saying he doesn't identify as muslim - he probably does. But where is the evidence he committed this crime in the name of islam? There is none.

It doesn't really matter to the aussie media or politicians if a crime was in the name of islam or not, they will stir up any link to islam to blame violence on muslims.

Case example was the gang rape by few muslims around 12 years ago in Sydney.

You had a group of guys 17-18 years old, who were not practicing muslims, spent more time in a disco than a mosque, and the muslim community were bombarded from every angle on how this kind of thing can happen in Australia.

Front page media weeks on end, press releases were given, meetings were scheduled, mosques bombarded for comment etc etc.

There doesn't have to be a " name in islam" link. They will make a defunct link to islam or muslims just to show that muslims are a violent munch.

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Reply #23 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:57pm

shockresist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 7:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Beheading is Islamic. Not murder. Beheading. Islamic ritual execution.

Plenty of non-muslims commit murder by beheading.

I'm not saying he doesn't identify as muslim - he probably does. But where is the evidence he committed this crime in the name of islam? There is none.

It doesn't really matter to the aussie media or politicians if a crime was in the name of islam or not, they will stir up any link to islam to blame violence on muslims.

Case example was the gang rape by few muslims around 12 years ago in Sydney.

You had a group of guys 17-18 years old, who were not practicing muslims, spent more time in a disco than a mosque,

and the muslim community were bombarded from every angle on how this kind of thing can happen in Australia.

Front page media weeks on end, press releases were given, meetings were scheduled, mosques bombarded for comment etc etc.

There doesn't have to be a " name in islam" link. They will make a defunct link to islam or muslims just to show that muslims are a violent munch.

shockresist,

What a load of insincere and deceitful shite.

Google;
rape, victim "had no right to say no", "She was not covering her face or wearing any headscarf"

Google;
Bilal rape victim was "aussie slut"

Google;
rape jihad

Of course, moslems had nothing to do with those Sydney rapes.

Moslems, only ever act righteously.

And wherever bad things are done, well of course they were not moslems doing those bad things, coz those people were not acting in accordance with what ISLAM allows.

BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE!

ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! i

In a recent 'immigrant youth' rape case.....

Google;
australian judge finds muslim cultural differences valid excuse for rape

p.s.
i really, really, hope that someone rapes that particular judge, with a HUGE over sized dildo, coz its only natural to want to rape stupid judges with over sized dildos.
honest!

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Reply #24 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 5:05am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:17pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

All over the western world a majority of citizens still identify themselves as "christian" - mostly non-practicing, but christian nonetheless.

When an anglo-white person commits a garden-variety murder, no one thinks to label this as a "christian" crime - even though, statistically, the perpetrator is likely to identify himself as a christian.

When a brown immigrant with a muslim-sounding name commits a garden-variety murder, the media correctly does not label this as an "islamic" crime - even though its more than likely the perpetrator would identify as a muslim. Yet the Soren's of this world are immediately up in arms crying out blue murder that the crime wasn't labelled as a specifically "islamic" crime. I would not mind so much if the Soren's of this world would also be up in arms whenever whilte-anglo crime is not labelled as a specifically "christian" crime. Of course, doing either is equally absurd.

I have no beef with labelling crime "islamic" where there is evidence that it was committed in the name of islam - as with the UK beheading incident - the perpetrator invoked Allah, and quoted from the quran to justify his actions. But I will challenge anyone who cries "islamic crime" purely on the fact that the perpetrator has a beard and an islamic-sounding name.

How many people do you imagine you'll be able to 'challenge' in your lifetime (which could end in five minutes, tomorrow, ten or 50 years time) ?

How many do you imagine you'll be able to challenge compared with opinions formed each and every day in the minds of billions ?

Pretty small potatoes, aren't you?

Then we come to Spot of Borg who has convinced me he/she/it posts simplistic, deliberately provocative comments in the HOPE of gulling someone into a heated response which Spot of Borg's owners/employers can attempt to translate into something which will satisfy FOB and the Jewish Council's screams for sacrificial lambs in the name of some form of 'discrimination'

which they can them parlay into a headline 'discrimination' case complete with $27,000 fine and 3.5 years behind bars

Gotcha. Now you called me a jew you can pay me lots of money

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Reply #26 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 2:10pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:57pm:

shockresist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 7:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Beheading is Islamic. Not murder. Beheading. Islamic ritual execution.

Plenty of non-muslims commit murder by beheading.

I'm not saying he doesn't identify as muslim - he probably does. But where is the evidence he committed this crime in the name of islam? There is none.

It doesn't really matter to the aussie media or politicians if a crime was in the name of islam or not, they will stir up any link to islam to blame violence on muslims.

Case example was the gang rape by few muslims around 12 years ago in Sydney.

You had a group of guys 17-18 years old, who were not practicing muslims, spent more time in a disco than a mosque,

and the muslim community were bombarded from every angle on how this kind of thing can happen in Australia.

Front page media weeks on end, press releases were given, meetings were scheduled, mosques bombarded for comment etc etc.

There doesn't have to be a " name in islam" link. They will make a defunct link to islam or muslims just to show that muslims are a violent munch.

shockresist,

What a load of insincere and deceitful shite.

Google;
rape, victim "had no right to say no", "She was not covering her face or wearing any headscarf"

Google;
Bilal rape victim was "aussie slut"

Google;
rape jihad

Of course, moslems had nothing to do with those Sydney rapes.

Moslems, only ever act righteously.

And wherever bad things are done, well of course they were not moslems doing those bad things, coz those people were not acting in accordance with what ISLAM allows.

BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE!

ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! i

In a recent 'immigrant youth' rape case.....

Google;
australian judge finds muslim cultural differences valid excuse for rape

p.s.
i really, really, hope that someone rapes that particular judge, with a HUGE over sized dildo, coz its only natural to want to rape stupid judges with over sized dildos.
honest!

Why should I google it.

Rape Jihad? What is that? Did you imagine that?

Aussie slut? Not sure why the guys called her aussie slut when most of the rapists had aussie girlfriends. They called her aussie slut not "Non muslim slut".

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Reply #27 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 5:13pm

shockresist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:05am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:33am:

Soren wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:43pm:

As if that made any difference -even when they behead a British soldier in London, shouting allahu akhbar, and giving all the Koranic justification, chapter and verse, you will say it has nothing to do with Islam.

No, that was very good evidence that it was committed in the name of islam. Supported by the fact that I have already acknowledged very openly that that crime was committed in the name of islam. So there goes that strawman.

A bearded man with a muslim-sounding name killing his ex-girlfriend on the other hand is not itself evidence of a crime committed in the name of islam. Even you should be able to understand that Soren.

After having your fairy tales exposed about what caused the Swedish riots, I can't believe you would have the gaul to come out swinging like this again. Like SOB says, you have a completely irrational problem with muslims. You need to get the bugger over yourself.

And lets turn a blind eye to the guy who raped and killed Reba meagher, Dean the nurse who killed those nursing home residents or the 16 innocent afghanis killed by a poor rogue American soldier.

Its all islams fault I say.

Your fallacy is that in your mind Islam has nuffin' do wiv nuffin' because non-muslims also commit crimes. In your mind, only the act counts, not the motivation.
In law (and in common sense), however, the motivation is also important.

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Reply #28 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 5:21pm

shockresist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:57pm:

shockresist,

What a load of insincere and deceitful shite.

Google;
rape, victim "had no right to say no", "She was not covering her face or wearing any headscarf"

Google;
Bilal rape victim was "aussie slut"

Google;
rape jihad

Of course, moslems had nothing to do with those Sydney rapes.

Moslems, only ever act righteously.

And wherever bad things are done, well of course they were not moslems doing those bad things, coz those people were not acting in accordance with what ISLAM allows.

BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE! BULLSHITE!

ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! ISLAMIC BULLSHITE! i

In a recent 'immigrant youth' rape case.....

Google;
australian judge finds muslim cultural differences valid excuse for rape

p.s.
i really, really, hope that someone rapes that particular judge, with a HUGE over sized dildo, coz its only natural to want to rape stupid judges with over sized dildos.
honest!

Why should I google it.

Rape Jihad? What is that? Did you imagine that?

Aussie slut? Not sure why the guys called her aussie slut when most of the rapists had aussie girlfriends. They called her aussie slut not "Non muslim slut".

Coz i am associating the rape of non-moslem women as a 'lawful' act for every moslem guy.

And i want non-moslems to understand that that, is true.

And before you ask, the only reason that moslem men, in Australia, do not routinely rape non-moslem women, in Australia, is because Australian laws are protecting those non-moslem women.

Otherwise, as in many other countries, where moslems have the 'opportunity' to do so, they ROUTINELY rape local non-moslem women.

Let me say it again,

in many other countries, where moslem men have the 'opportunity' to do so, they ROUTINELY rape local non-moslem women.

Google it.

Why do moslem men, where they have the 'opportunity' to do so, choose to ROUTINELY rape local non-moslem women ?

Because they are being good moslems, by imitating the sunna of Prophet Mohammed, who was a rapist too.

And moslem men know that they will get 'brownie points' from Allah, for imitating the acts of Prophet Mohammed.

Yadda wrote on Sep 1^st, 2009 at 9:16am:

FROM THE HADITH.....

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = describing some form of raiding party, where Mohammed, and his men, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what this means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust. This sounds like fornication to me. So why weren't Mohammed and his men stoned to death???

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, their moslem captors sought to sexually 'use', and shame, these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them. How honourable of these moslem men. /sarc off

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

FROM THE HADITH, END.

These [above] Hadith verses are cited, with references, here [in another thread],

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8

All moslem men are taught from childhood that the actions of the life of holy Prophet Mohammed are a perfect role model for themselves - AND -

Prophet Mohammed was a pirate-rapist - ISLAMIC texts attest to that fact!

Prophet Mohammed was a pirate-rapist - ISLAMIC texts attest to that fact!

Prophet Mohammed was a pirate-rapist - ISLAMIC texts attest to that fact!

So moslems believe that being pirate-rapists is 'good works'.

And that is what moslem men are doing with non-moslem women in Pakistan, and Turkey, and Egypt, and Myanmar, and Libya, and Sudan, and Somalia, and Sweden, and England, and, and, and, and........

Raping them.

Because raping local non-moslem women when the 'opportunity' is there, is 'good works'.

So, are we straight now, shockresist ?

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Hey shockresist,

If rape is not permitted by ISLAM, then why wasn't Mohammed punished for the rapes which he committed [upon captive women] ?

Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251760605/0#0

The Koran refers to Mohammed's morality thus;

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021

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Reply #29 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 5:40pm

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shockresist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Why should I google it.

We know you are incapable of it so don't bother. Remain ignorant.

shockresist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Rape Jihad? What is that? Did you imagine that?

It is what happens when the West allows muslims into our part of the world!

shockresist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Aussie slut? Not sure why the guys called her aussie slut when most of the rapists had aussie girlfriends. They called her aussie slut not "Non muslim slut".

Because she was not a muslim you drongo.

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