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May 30th, 2013 at 12:47pm
 


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THE message from the young men was blunt: "You're not in Australia now."
They weren't standing on a street in Iraq, Afghanistan or Lebanon. This is Bankstown.
It is a safe suburban street surrounded by family homes but there are fears areas just like this are in danger of being turned into ghettos by young men - usually born in Australia to Lebanese parents - who are cannon fodder for hardline Muslim preachers. They are part of generation jihad.
A recent two-year federal parliamentary inquiry into multiculturalism was swamped by concerns about the rising influence of Islam in Australia and fears that organisations such as Hizb ut-Tahrir and conservative imams were "promoting the radicalisation of second-generation Muslim youth and voluntary social exclusion".
"This was thought to support the formation of Muslim-only enclaves, leading to long-term problems such as unemployment," said the report, released in March.

An Islamic women's group told of the influence of alarming conservatism that was even demanding gender segregation at weddings "within parts of the Lebanese community in Sydney".
The same characters and organisations keep popping up to attract young acolytes.Like the radical political Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir, Sheik Feiz Mohammed, the Global Islamic Youth Centre at Liverpool, Auburn's Bukhari House Bookshop and prayer hall, of which Feiz Mohammed is a director.
Head of the Middle Eastern Crime Squad, Detective Superintendent Deborah Wallace, said even convicted murderer Bassam Hamzy, founder of the Muslim gang Brothers for Life, had achieved an almost mythical status from behind bars.
So far intelligence agencies have stayed one step ahead of the terrorism threat.
Milad bin Ahmad-Shah al-Ahmadzai, 23, has been under surveillance by counter-terrorism police since he was 19 and this week was arrested for allegedly threatening to "slit the throat" of an officer, a court heard on Tuesday.
Al-Ahmadzai, Sydney born and bred although he has identified himself as "ethnic Pashtun from Afghanistan", has also previously been pinpointed as a threat to soldiers on Australian soil.
Community leaders talk about how the young people are not just influenced by what's happening locally but what is happening overseas.
ASIO director-general David Irvine has warned of a dramatic increase in the number of young ethnic men travelling to take part in the Syrian war. "We are talking in the hundreds and not the tens," Mr Irvine has said.
Community leader Dr Jamal Rifi has seen them come back.
"When they come back they are radicalised," Dr Rifi said. "They look on people with a high moral ground, 'I went there and I fought for these causes, blah blah blah'."
The Syrian conflict has spilled over into violence in Bankstown where a gang of Sunni Muslim men have been accused of extorting businesses owned by Shia men in retaliation for the Shia supporting Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.
Hizb ut-Tahrir's Australian leader recently called on the country to become an Islamic state ruled by Islamic law and for a boycott of Anzac Day.
Spokesman Uthman Badar, 28, denied the movement was extreme and said the Muslim community was being demonised in Australia.
"There is a ridiculous amount of surveillance by ASIO and tapping of phones. You are further alienating these people," Mr Badar said yesterday. In Islamic book stores, in cafes across western and southwestern Sydney and in each other's homes, these are the sorts of "leaders" looked up to by the disaffected young men as they talk about how badly life treats Muslims.
Add unemployment to the mix.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/australias-generation-jihad-is-homeg...
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We need some inner-city, cafe-latte trendies to go out to Bankstown to teach them tolerance.
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At least they live in their own ghettos and not with the humans.


Bankstown is nothing more than a target rich environment if those camel jockeys decide to get out of hand.


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Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.
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Reply #5 - May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm
 
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.


were are you from?

You don't sound like an authentic Aboriginal person

Where are your ancestors from?

Do you follow the original Indigenous laws that were here before the British invaded and began killing aboriginals and stealing their land and their children?

Who the HELL ARE YOU?
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Reply #6 - May 30th, 2013 at 4:36pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm:
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.


were are you from?

You don't sound like an authentic Aboriginal person

Where are your ancestors from?


My ancestors were convicts and as far as I'm concerned, the aboriginal and convicts ARE Australia.
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Reply #7 - May 30th, 2013 at 6:28pm
 
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm:
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.


were are you from?

You don't sound like an authentic Aboriginal person

Where are your ancestors from?


My ancestors were convicts and as far as I'm concerned, the aboriginal and convicts ARE Australia.



Bloody jacked up, Johnny-come-Lately!   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Jun 2nd, 2013 at 9:31pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm:
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.


were are you from?

You don't sound like an authentic Aboriginal person

Where are your ancestors from?

Do you follow the original Indigenous laws that were here before the British invaded and began killing aboriginals and stealing their land and their children?

Who the HELL ARE YOU?


Do you follow them chimp?
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|dev|null wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
Oh, look!  The sky is falling again!   Grin Grin


Still playing the willing dhimmi I see Hot Breath.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 6:00pm
 
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm:
Where are your ancestors from?


My ancestors were convicts and as far as I'm concerned, the aboriginal and convicts ARE Australia.



A zebra went to heaven. When he saw St. Peter he asked him "You know, I have always wondered, am I a white horse with black stripes or a black horse with white stripes?" St. Peter said he would have to ask God that question since he's the one that made him.

So the zebra asked God, "God, am I a white horse with black stripes or a black horse with white stripes?"
God answered, "You are what you are."

The zebra left and came upon St. Peter and told him,
"Well I asked God if I was a white horse with black stripes or a black horse with white stripes..."
"What was the answer," St. Peter asked.

"Well I still don't know. All He said was: 'You are what you are."'

"Well that answers it," Said St. Peter. "You're a white horse with black stripes."

"How do you know that?" asked the zebra.

"Well if you were a black horse with white stripes He would have said: "You is what you is".

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Reply #11 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 6:15pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
We need some inner-city, cafe-latte trendies to go out to Bankstown to teach them tolerance.


been to bankstown many times, never a problem .... but then again I don't go around talking down to them and treating them as if they were beneath me.
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Reply #12 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:56pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
We need some inner-city, cafe-latte trendies to go out to Bankstown to teach them tolerance.


been to bankstown many times, never a problem .... but then again I don't go around talking down to them and treating them as if they were beneath me.


Lived, worked and driven Sydney aeons ago. Had flat in St. Peter's and fed a stamping plant with a wide-mouthed shovel at Austral Bricks in my teens. P1ssed on my hands to heal blisters. 16yo and no car - far away from home.

Had a barmaid girlfiend at the Ashfield Tavern before Milperra. Done Paramatta Road from Central Station to Church Street in 14 mins.

Ran a Kawasaki 900 from my flat's garage, opposite Western Suburbs Leagues Club on Liverpool Road.

Been there, done that.

You miss the point.

Some of those experiences are limited by the use-by date - they're no longer applicable.

The Bankstown you know, ain't necessarily the Bankstown I knew.

If I were to ever walk back through Ashfield, after all these years, I have no doubt that I would feel alienated.

After 40 years, I can sill return to the town of my childhood and still be recognised.


John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
been to bankstown many times, never a problem ....


Then again, if you've never raced on Parramatta Rd or visited 'Brickies' ...

Do you know Sydney?





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Reply #13 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 10:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
We need some inner-city, cafe-latte trendies to go out to Bankstown to teach them tolerance.


been to bankstown many times, never a problem .... but then again I don't go around talking down to them and treating them as if they were beneath me.



Well, they are not beneath you....

Who is??



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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 9:27am
 
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 4:34pm:
1993Zebra wrote on May 30th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Islams need to get out of our country if they don't like it. Go back to where they come from.
If you live in Australia, you live by Australian laws, we ain't gonna make special privileges for them.


were are you from?

You don't sound like an authentic Aboriginal person

Where are your ancestors from?


My ancestors were convicts and as far as I'm concerned, the aboriginal and convicts ARE Australia
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Australia is the ONLY commonwealth invaded country that doesn't have a treaty with its original inhabitants

In fact, the British classified this land as un-occupied by humans (Terra Nallius). What a convenient tool of fascism and racism bestowed upon the indigenous peoples of Australia - peoples that were the FIRST to migrate OUT of Africa over 100,000 years ago. THey moved across the Indian main land and down through Asia to eventually reach Australia and settle.

THe Australian Aboriginal people were the first explorers out of Africa

And you claim that your criminal ancestors who were essentially sent here as prisoners to do hard labour, ride side by side with the original owners of this land?

yeah right
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