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Reply #30 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 2:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

I am bumping this thread up again because of it's extreme importance.

Unless Tony - when he gets in - encourages innovation we are all doomed to a low standard of living.

Does he have the balls to do it?

When you had a Government that cut innovation R&D Grants to the bone to companies spending millions on Australian projects - all in the name of a hollow surplus promise - you know they aren't serious about the future.

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Reply #31 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

Not only that Andrei,
the financial controller at work told me that there were
about 40 different taxes & charges that applied to our company -
I don't know them all but some that come to mine:

payroll tax ,
land tax,
company tax,
GST,
forced payment of public liability insurance,
work cover insurance,
auditing charges etc

add the rest on if you know them.

We had to employ a team of financial people to try & control these taxes & charges -
called a compliance cost - about $250,000 per year.

It all means that business is not encouraged in Australia.

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Reply #32 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

I am bumping this thread up again because of it's extreme importance.

Unless Tony - when he gets in - encourages innovation we are all doomed to a low standard of living.

Does he have the balls to do it?

When you had a Government that cut innovation R&D Grants to the bone to companies spending millions on Australian projects - all in the name of a hollow surplus promise - you know they aren't serious about the future.

They gave plenty to Ford who couldn't make a profit if their life depended on it Sad

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Reply #33 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

I am bumping this thread up again because of it's extreme importance.

Unless Tony - when he gets in - encourages innovation we are all doomed to a low standard of living.

Does he have the balls to do it?

When you had a Government that cut innovation R&D Grants to the bone to companies spending millions on Australian projects - all in the name of a hollow surplus promise - you know they aren't serious about the future.

They gave plenty to Ford who couldn't make a profit if their life depended on it Sad

Australia needs more energy - it has a growing population and energy need.
Yet they removed innovation grants on energy delivery.

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Reply #34 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

I am bumping this thread up again because of it's extreme importance.

Unless Tony - when he gets in - encourages innovation we are all doomed to a low standard of living.

Does he have the balls to do it?

When you had a Government that cut innovation R&D Grants to the bone to companies spending millions on Australian projects - all in the name of a hollow surplus promise - you know they aren't serious about the future.

They gave plenty to Ford who couldn't make a profit if their life depended on it Sad

Australia needs more energy - it has a growing population and energy need.
Yet they removed innovation grants on energy delivery.

Not for clean green energy unlike the filthy sh.t you were trying to dig out of the ground Sad

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Labor destroys business for start up companies. Reply #35 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:33pm Whether you like to admit it or not - our company is a player in renewable energy sourcing, cleaner energy sourcing and geo-thermal delivery. You can't box everybody into neat categories. Hell, on our balance sheet, we have several patents relating to electric vehicle parts!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103647 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Labor destroys business for start up companies. Reply #36 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:39pm Dear Andrei, when you open a business in Australia the Govt. sees you as a cash cow whereby they can extract enormous taxes - & they don't care if you go bankrupt.
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Reply #37 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:42pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

Whether you like to admit it or not - our company is a player in renewable energy sourcing, cleaner energy sourcing and geo-thermal delivery.

You can't box everybody into neat categories.

Hell, on our balance sheet, we have several patents relating to electric vehicle parts!

so what are these parts and where are these EV parts used ?? patent numbers ?

and are the patents like the chevron/cobasys EV battery patent which they won't license out to any EV manufacturers which by the way is an abuse of the patent system ?

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Reply #38 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 5:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

Whether you like to admit it or not - our company is a player in renewable energy sourcing, cleaner energy sourcing and geo-thermal delivery.

You can't box everybody into neat categories.

Hell, on our balance sheet, we have several patents relating to electric vehicle parts!

so what are these parts and where are these EV parts used ?? patent numbers ?

and are the patents like the chevron/cobasys EV battery patent which they won't license out to any EV manufacturers which by the way is an abuse of the patent system ?

You'll find its not.

Holding a patent and preventing licensing to non approved, aligned groups is an intrinsic part of patenting and protection of IP.

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Reply #39 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 9:40pm

The fact is that if you work for a boss in Australia you only get about
half the money you should as the rest ends up with the tax department.
All the money that is milked out of the business is money you can't get in your salary.

The Govt. robs every worker & discourages business.
It's 4 times cheaper to make a car in South east Asia than it is to make at Ford.

Look how manufacturing has declined in Australia - along with most other western style countries:

http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/speeches/5150125.html

I think it's only 7% now in Australia.
Manufacturing has died under the excessive taxes in this country.
The Govts. - both Labor & Liberal - just sat back & watched it die while they
introduced more & more taxes to make it less competitive.

This tax on people who start up companies being taxed on unsold share options is outrageous
& does even more to destroy our industry.

We don't need governments - we need paid administrators.
Every Govt. has been incompetent & done their best to destroy our industries.
They should all be in jail for life with hard labor & no parole.

It's disgusting & I'm angry about it.

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Reply #40 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 10:08pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

Whether you like to admit it or not - our company is a player in renewable energy sourcing, cleaner energy sourcing and geo-thermal delivery.

You can't box everybody into neat categories.

Hell, on our balance sheet, we have several patents relating to electric vehicle parts!

so what are these parts and where are these EV parts used ?? patent numbers ?

and are the patents like the chevron/cobasys EV battery patent which they won't license out to any EV manufacturers which by the way is an abuse of the patent system ?

You'll find its not.

Holding a patent and preventing licensing to non approved, aligned groups is an intrinsic part of patenting and protection of IP.

No it's not. The patent system was designed to encourage innovation and improvement upon existing inventions. It was not designed to stifle innovation which is exactly what Chevron oil has done along with many pharmaceutical companies by making minor changes in order to hold onto the patent to stop it from being made available to the public domain. That's why patents only last 25 years and not indefinitely. Denying a license to manufacture an invention has nothing to do with protecting intellectual property.

You are talking rubbish as usual.

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Reply #41 - Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:57pm

Payroll tax in Victoria is 4.9%.

http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/sro/sronav.nsf/childdocs/-34FAD0EFBAFF8BE0CA2575A10044...

If you earn 60,000 a year in Victoria your employer must pay $2,940 to the Government -
money your employer can't give to you.
It's a tax on jobs.
It takes bread from your table.

How can this encourage employment?
It's pure theft.
You already pay income tax & GST yet this is not able to be claimed back as a loss by the employee.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103647 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Labor destroys business for start up companies. Reply #42 - Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:28am Just listening to parliament. Labor is pushing through a new tax expected to raise $1 billion on financial services.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30070 Gender:	Re: Labor destroys business for start up companies. Reply #43 - Jun 6^th, 2013 at 12:38pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 6^th, 2013 at 10:28am: Just listening to parliament. Labor is pushing through a new tax expected to raise $1 billion on financial services. just stealing more of peoples hard earned life's savings
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Labor destroys business for start up companies. Reply #44 - Jun 6^th, 2013 at 1:04pm I'll tell you about stealing. I am sat right now not 10 paces from a pair of politicians kicking back with wines in Qantas bus class lounge. All at our Fking expense no doubt! Parasite c**ts. Makes my blood boil knowing they get all this at our expense...
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