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Reply #840 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:58am
 

I didn't know about Manly surfers going to Cronulla looking for biff?  You might not know about the insular peninsula ... people over here did not leave the peninsula under any circumstances unless completely necessary!  You had to update your passports before you crossed the Spit Bridge or the Roseville Bridge.  The only way out of the peninsula apart from Mona Vale Road in the north. So I don't know about Manly surfers travelling down to Cronulla although it was always an us and them sort of situation because of the football teams.  Manly won the premiership and defeated Cronulla - they both joined around the same time and there was always that rivalry.  And Cronulla didn't like it one little bit. 

The Bra Boys were never considered to be leaders of the riot!  It was just a typical Bra Boys attitude after seeing what the mussos got up to in Cronulla - don't come to our eastern suburbs beaches to cause trouble because if you do, we will be waiting.  The police warned the Bra Boys off but forgot to warn off the mussos who took up the challenge. 

But the mussos never intended to meet the Bra Boys on their surfing turf.  No, they waited till darkness and the convoy left the south western suburbs unimpeded with all their weapons on board to cause mass destruction to the innocent citizens of Maroubra and other eastern suburbs and their property.  Hundreds of cars were smashed, people were attacked with bats and seriously injured and it all happened when least expected. 

The questions remain ... why did the convoys leave and no one was following to keep an eye on what they were up to?  And the main question ... why did we have such namby pamby laws that prevented the police from searching those vehicles in the first place?  If they had, they could have arrested the mussos for having guns and knives.  And the eastern suburbs would not have been attacked.  That was the real riot! 

And it wasn't a case of the mussos not knowing how to deal with adversaries - it was the mussos who caused all the trouble in the first place.  It was more a case of the surfers and people of the eastern suburbs who didn't know how to deal with the mussos ... or what revenge they were capable of under the cover of darkness.
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Reply #841 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 3:14pm
 
It wasn't a surfer thing. Just your local patriotic Yahoo's for a turf war.
I remember as a kid in Mt Druitt in the 70's and 800 cops had to create a barrier between the mass brawls between Bidwell and Plumpton. It was started by the girls in a hockey match and escalated very quickly.
Hell, I remember via another School. We brawled all the way back to our buses with Plumpton after a fight broke out in a Volleyball game. Even our teachers were throwing punches.

Macquarie Fields (just one street) riot, I just happened to be there.
Rosemeadow ghetto riot... I just happened to be there.
Cronulla Riots... I was there also for one night. Just finished scuba night dive in Wollongong harbour when the Yahoo's came down to the water. But as they could tell we weren't Moslem and we carried big dive knives, they let us be.

In my mind. The Moslems were lucky the Media and Police protected them and condemned the very multi-cultural hordes of non Moslems.

As I nearly got into a biff with a Moslem at Murray's Beach (abo land) because he littered and got tough about it.
I said "Go back to Sydney where you come from!"
The idiot cried that I was being a racist  Grin

The next big riot?
Well, chances are I'll be there too. Roll Eyes
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Reply #842 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 10:51am
 

Sounds like a great time you had growing up in Mt Druitt!  It must have been scary.  My son bought several houses out that way - Blackett, Nth St Marys, Shalvey!  I went over to help clean up the Shalvey house while it was being renovated prior to its being rented out and was shocked about the inmates of that suburb!!  Some were lovely like the guy who lived opposite - he would come over and put the garbage bins out and would keep an eye on the place.  The older lady behind was lovely too. But gee, there were some scary individuals! Like the guy who came over and said he'd take that stove - we'd put it out on the front lawn where I was going to clean it whilst the kitchen was being painted and getting new cupboards.  I said we weren't throwing it out - and he went into a rage and I actually thought he was going to attack me!!!  I said to my son, why did you buy this place??? And he said, get in the car it will only take 5 mins and he drove me to a place called Ropes Crossing - a gated community and he said in 5 to 10 years this will be what Shalvey will be like.  And I was shocked because I said - this is like the Warriewood Valley! - a new housing development which replaced all the market gardens in Warriewood years back. 

Anyway, he didn't stick it out - some of the tenants were a disaster and he sold out. And he had to be careful that no one knew he was a cop otherwise they would have burned the place down. I honestly don't know how anyone can live and survive there. You'd definitely need a gun!!   

So you must have had well developed survival instincts to have come out of that area unscathed!  My granddaughter's maternal grandmother was a teacher at Airds High School. She couldn't cope with teaching in that environment and thought she would have a nervous breakdown so changed to a private school miles away from there.  She lives in a gated community at Glen Alpine.  I don't think I would last more than a month anywhere near any of these places.  Although the two houses he has in North St Marys seem to be okay - apart from one of the tenants suiciding just recently.    

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Reply #843 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:43am
 
I can only say Aquarius that I had something like 100 fights with just 10 years in Mt Druitt. Move across Ropes Creek to St Mary's and it isn't physical violence, but mental violence from the 'Marys' with demeaning intellectualism.
To play tennis in Emerton as a kid, one had to carry a torch and bypass Letho through the storm water drains or get belted by the Letho boys.

I can see your son's point of view. Old Mt Druitt has seen a property price rise. Redfern squalor has turned into expensive Uni precinct. But regardless of price fluctuations, the social state of being in Sydney has degenerated extremely. Mt Druitt is far worse than in the 70's. I've lived next door to Glen Alpine, in Ambarvale. Sure it sold as a place that is better than next door, but like every place that is marketed as such, it has become no different to every other burb in Sydney.

I wouldn't buy a property in any city or an isolated regional village. Both attract the worst like the effects of over & under achieving. I've even lived 4 doors down from the Lodge in Kirribilli and even that wasn't good enough.

The only place to live in Sydney is on a boat on the harbour. If you can't do that, it's best to live as far from Sydney as you can get! Having lived in Melbourne (big version of St Mary's) for 7 years. It's just the same shyte as Sydney, just a different smell.

It wasn't until an amazing 4 years in a Riverina town called Leeton, that I discovered that amazing lost experience of a 'happy society'. Not a happiness paid for by money like suburbs surrounded by barbed wire and cameras. But a happiness made by the people themselves! Sure, there were some rotters, but they were a very lame minority that hid in the shadows to be forgotten. I still can't pin it down, but after living in Leeton for 4 years, I was a very changed man.
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Reply #844 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 10:51am
 

Wow!  You've certainly moved around Jasin.  So why didn't you stay in Leeton?  It seems like you'd found the place you belonged? 

Definitely I agree that the western suburbs and south western suburbs are nothing now like they were up to the 70s and 80s. There are now so many "cultures" that are fighting for dominance.  Mass migration and globalisation has had a disastrous effect on the host nations of the West. 
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Reply #845 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 11:27am
 
I can honestly say Aquarius that have seen many females I grew up with in the Druitt, still living there. They are far tougher than I ever was.

You're right in that the main problem with places like that which has a mish mash of different people's thrown together, there's a lot of push and shove until one dominates because there is no umbrella cultural identity to belong to. In Mt Druitt's case. Violence is it's only 'cultural' identity and reputation.
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Reply #846 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 11:55am
 

Ah yeah ... the postcode wars!

But funny you should mention "the Druitt."  My son mentioned this years ago when he was policing in those areas with the TAG. 

He said police in that area always said "that all roads lead to the Druitt!" 

As the crime centre I suppose. 
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Reply #847 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:27pm
 
The cultural irony though is that if you put Pre 80s Melbournian Cops in the Druitt. They would have belted that area into a nice grateful and polite place.
Traditionally Sydney police kept the rich in check, while the poor gave em the finger behind their backs.
Traditionally the Melbourne police kept the poor in check, while the rich gave them the finger behind their backs.
...add that Brisbane police 'took' bribes.
Adelaide police would sleep with your wife or girlfriend.
Perth police were corrupt and criminal.
Darwin police would shoot you.
The worst police of all were the Hobart police though. They would make you marry into their inbred family.  Grin

But that's all gone now as Australia has become a shemozzle of everything everywhere in each city now the same, each State the same. One Nation was a very bad idea.
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Reply #848 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:32pm
 

I hope that's a generalisation, lol. 

Although I will agree that Perth police are corrupt.  Absolutely!
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Reply #849 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 4:16pm
 
I didn't stay in the Riverina. Had to move to Sydney. Despite good money, I couldn't get back into the city life again. Everyone was angry, miserable and all the negatives.
So I just headed south. I love being underwater, feeling that rapture of the deep (as they call it). Hence I stick to the coastline as a water spirit and where I am, it ain't to off the mark in happy, relaxed and nice people vibe here... Until the terrorists arrive at holiday periods. Lol
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