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Jun 6th, 2013 at 8:12pm
 
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Asylum seekers involved in violent attacks while in immigration detention are being released into the community, including one man who assaulted staff and was involved in more than 250 incidents.

The violent detainees are released before security checks into their background are completed, according to an insider with intimate knowledge of the detention system.

The disturbing account by the whistleblower follows Prime Minister Julia Gillard's decision on Wednesday to launch an inquiry into the release of a convicted terrorist into a low-security detention facility, where he remained for months even after his background came to light.

According to the latest account of security problems in the immigration network, one man, Khoda Doost, was involved in more than 250 incidents, including assaulting staff, and released in Victoria where he threatened to kill people and burn down his house.

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A Department of Immigration spokeswoman confirmed that a ''series of incidents'' led to Mr Doost having his community residency revoked in September last year.

Mr Doost continues to be involved in violent incidents in Sydney's Villawood detention centre, according to the whistleblower, a manager in the department.

In another incident, a detainee in Melbourne was released into the community only two weeks after threatening self-harm and to kill staff in a roof-top protest, the whistleblower told Fairfax Media.

''This person could be your next door neighbour,'' he said.

The whistleblower, who has worked in detention centres in three different locations, said the department has a target of 2000 asylum seekers being released into the community on bridging visas every month.
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Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23am
 
I don't think you'll find any ALP supporters here that have a problem with any of that.  Cry
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Reply #2 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 9:37am
 
How can there ever be 'proper' security checks for those who arrive without any identity documentation on people smugglers boats.
In this case their cannot be.
The shadow Immigration minister stated again, and warned again this week on radio that the departments policy of giving unidentified boat people the 'benefit of the doubt' when releasing them into the community places our security at risk and he is absolutely correct.
Does Labor really have to wait until Australians are torn apart in bomb explosions before realising that flooding the community with unidentified people is a bad idea.
How much more stupidity is this Government going to display.
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:11am
 
African asylum seekers from Sudan and Somalia are 8 times more likely to commit crime in Melbourne than white Aussie kids.

They have come from a lawless country, they have no respect for our institutions.
They just should not be here.
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Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 11:17am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:11am:
African asylum seekers from Sudan and Somalia are 8 times more likely to commit crime in Melbourne than white Aussie kids.

They have come from a lawless country, they have no respect for our institutions.
They just should not be here.




Did you know its racist not to let mad africans into the country to rape murder and rob us ... tut tut.
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Reply #5 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 11:57am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 9:37am:
How can there ever be 'proper' security checks for those who arrive without any identity documentation on people smugglers boats.
In this case their cannot be.
The shadow Immigration minister stated again, and warned again this week on radio that the departments policy of giving unidentified boat people the 'benefit of the doubt' when releasing them into the community places our security at risk and he is absolutely correct.
Does Labor really have to wait until Australians are torn apart in bomb explosions before realising that flooding the community with unidentified people is a bad idea.
How much more stupidity is this Government going to display.








The Australian government is allowing ISLAMIC terrorists entry into the Australian community - allowing ISLAMIC terrorists to live among us.

And politicians from all of the major Australian political party's [imo], are committed to this course and are facilitating this idiocy/madness.





not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1366162198/0#0
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Chard asserts....
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.....not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigoted retard.





But, all moslems are terrorists, activated, or as yet, unactivated, by their 'religious' convictions.



.......
TERRORISM ???


Within its own 'religious' texts, ISLAM declares,
TO THE WHOLE WORLD,
that it is DESIRABLE,  and glorious, for a moslem to die fighting for Allah's cause [Allah's cause, is the bondage [enslavement] and oppression of all mankind].
And ISLAM's adherents are taught to seek [their own] violent death, in Jihad.






Everything we [non-moslems] need to understand about moslems/ISLAM, is revealed in this YT.....

Please watch this YT...
ISLAM - THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzxiHfWvBGw


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #6 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 12:29pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 11:57am:
The Australian government is allowing ISLAMIC terrorists entry into the Australian community - allowing ISLAMIC terrorists to live among us.


They are? Please do tell Yadda. This should be interesting...
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 2:45pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
Yadda wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 11:57am:
The Australian government is allowing ISLAMIC terrorists entry into the Australian community - allowing ISLAMIC terrorists to live among us.


They are? Please do tell Yadda. This should be interesting...


Absolutely.
Abdul Nacer Benbrika including his dozen or so Jihadi mates have never heard of anything so ludicrous.
What next, the Immigration department giving unidentified boat people the benefit of the doubt when they release them into the community on bridging visas.
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Reply #8 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:20pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:11am:
African asylum seekers from Sudan and Somalia are 8 times more likely to commit crime in Melbourne than white Aussie kids.

They have come from a lawless country, they have no respect for our institutions.
They just should not be here.


Bullshit.

So much steamy bullshit its not funny.

Why do you lie like that? Especially when its so goddamn easy to tell when you are lying like an asshole (hint, its when you type something)
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Reply #9 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:25pm
 
donincognito wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:20pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:11am:
African asylum seekers from Sudan and Somalia are 8 times more likely to commit crime in Melbourne than white Aussie kids.

They have come from a lawless country, they have no respect for our institutions.
They just should not be here.


Bullshit.

So much steamy bullshit its not funny.

Why do you lie like that? Especially when its so goddamn easy to tell when you are lying like an asshole (hint, its when you type something)


The latest article suggests 5 times more likely, so yes, Andrei is a moron. But, what it does highlight to us is that Australia needs to do better with its assimilation programs, rather than as the moron suggests, simply not accept.
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Reply #10 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:28pm
 
Yep...its like a war zone out there on our streets..   Grin
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Reply #11 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:32pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:25pm:
The latest article suggests 5 times more likely, so yes, Andrei is a moron. But, what it does highlight to us is that Australia needs to do better with its assimilation programs, rather than as the moron suggests, simply not accept.

What article? There is nothing about that in the original article posted.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged-with-crime-20130228-2f98h.html

Are you talking about that article?

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Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.
Figures released to Fairfax Media by the department of immigration and citizenship show that since November 2011, 12,100 asylum seekers have been released into the community on bridging visas.
A department spokeswoman said that ''a handful'' - or five or less - had been charged with a crime. This equates to just 41.32 people per 100,000 people.

Because I dont quite think you have nailed the takeaway message.

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Reply #12 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:33pm
 
donincognito wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:25pm:
The latest article suggests 5 times more likely, so yes, Andrei is a moron. But, what it does highlight to us is that Australia needs to do better with its assimilation programs, rather than as the moron suggests, simply not accept.

What article? There is nothing about that in the original article posted.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged-with-crime-20130228-2f98h.html

Are you talking about that article?

Quote:
Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.
Figures released to Fairfax Media by the department of immigration and citizenship show that since November 2011, 12,100 asylum seekers have been released into the community on bridging visas.
A department spokeswoman said that ''a handful'' - or five or less - had been charged with a crime. This equates to just 41.32 people per 100,000 people.

Because I dont quite think you have nailed the takeaway message.



I'm talking about this article: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/african-youth-crime-concern-20120819-24glt.htm...
And a little calm pls because I think you're missing the point I'm making.
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Reply #13 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:38pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
donincognito wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:25pm:
The latest article suggests 5 times more likely, so yes, Andrei is a moron. But, what it does highlight to us is that Australia needs to do better with its assimilation programs, rather than as the moron suggests, simply not accept.

What article? There is nothing about that in the original article posted.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-charged-with-crime-20130228-2f98h.html

Are you talking about that article?

Quote:
Asylum seekers living in the community on bridging visas are about 45 times less likely to be charged with a crime than members of the general public.
Figures released to Fairfax Media by the department of immigration and citizenship show that since November 2011, 12,100 asylum seekers have been released into the community on bridging visas.
A department spokeswoman said that ''a handful'' - or five or less - had been charged with a crime. This equates to just 41.32 people per 100,000 people.

Because I dont quite think you have nailed the takeaway message.



I'm talking about this article: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/african-youth-crime-concern-20120819-24glt.htm...
And a little calm pls because I think you're missing the point I'm making.


Wasn't it Howard who invited thousands of Sudanese and Somali  reffos here while he was demonising boat people?
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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 11:17am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:11am:
African asylum seekers from Sudan and Somalia are 8 times more likely to commit crime in Melbourne than white Aussie kids.

They have come from a lawless country, they have no respect for our institutions.
They just should not be here.




Did you know its racist not to let mad africans into the country to rape murder and rob us ... tut tut.




Rising African Crime a concern : Victoria Police


MARK COLVIN: Police in Victoria are concerned about what they describe as a trend of violence involving Sudanese and Somali-born Victorians. They say African youths are about five times as likely to commit crimes as the wider community.

Police say the community as a whole is not doing enough to help African youths feel more engaged and integrated.

Alison Caldwell reports.

ALISON CALDWELL: It's a sensitive topic, but one that can't be ignored according to Victoria Police; the relatively high rate of violent crime perpetrated by African youth.

Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Steve Fontana.

STEVE FONTANA: Somali and Sudanese-born Victorians are over-represented in crime statistics; they're five times more likely to commit offences than the broader population of Victoria.

ALISON CALDWELL: According to the police, the most common crimes committed by Somali and Sudanese-born Victorians are assault and robbery. But police say it's important to note the overall proportion of crimes state-wide committed by the Sudanese and Somali communities is only 0.92 and 0.35 respectively.

They say people arrested and charged may also falsely identify themselves as being from those communities.

STEVE FONTANA: When you look at the overall stats, the volume of crime is not significant when you look at the overall population. However, we are concerned about the level of offending by youth of African descent and we're particularly concerned about the level of the violence of altercations and also the age of the individuals involved. A vast majority are under the age of 21 years of age.

ALISON CALDWELL: Assistant Commissioner Fontana says everyone needs to do more, to ensure the trend doesn't continue.

STEVE FONTANA: We are doing a lot of work with the communities, however, we do need to think about, you know, if we don't stop the trend now, in the future we could have concerns. But, I think it's early days yet. The real issue here is about the support that these particular communities need to break the cycle of offending by young people.

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