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Reply #60 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:15pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:01pm:
RightSadFred wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 1:36pm:
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I find it very undemocratic that we have the most regulated expensive labour market yet unionism is down to 14% its time that we see market deregulation and more democracy overall.

Obviously much of this democratic mismatch will be rectified at the upcoming election.


As long as those calling for Australian wages to be cut  are prepared to take on Third world wages first as an example to the rest of us I have no problem with this.prblem is every time I bring up the subject the buggers run away and hide under their rocks. If you're already retired that's OK too, well pay you in bags of rice.



Have the courage to give specific examples of this "third world" wages that is happening in Australia

All you've got is rhetoric designed to dupe moron - and you've been duped

Comprehension not your strong point is it?  Cheesy
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Reply #61 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:17pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:01pm:
RightSadFred wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 1:36pm:
longweekend58

I find it very undemocratic that we have the most regulated expensive labour market yet unionism is down to 14% its time that we see market deregulation and more democracy overall.

Obviously much of this democratic mismatch will be rectified at the upcoming election.


As long as those calling for Australian wages to be cut  are prepared to take on Third world wages first as an example to the rest of us I have no problem with this.prblem is every time I bring up the subject the buggers run away and hide under their rocks. If you're already retired that's OK too, well pay you in bags of rice.



Have the courage to give specific examples of this "third world" wages that is happening in Australia

All you've got is rhetoric designed to dupe moron - and you've been duped

Wow, talk about dumb, maqqa seems to have a third world IQ.
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Reply #62 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:23pm
 
The Greens won't have the bop, so it doesn't matter what they want/think, they will be rendered completely irrelevant. With any luck it will be Xenophon and/or Madigan (if the Coalition doesn't in our own right).
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Reply #63 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:33pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 12:59pm:
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Yes I know, its terrible low income workers can join unions, and get a fair go.     Smiley       


u mean so that low-income workers can pay dues to the union so that the leaders can spend it on whores and holidays?



What a ridiculous statement.

How many union leaders are there in Australia, and how many of them are spending union fees on "whores and holidays"?

There are bad apples in almost every barrel: nobody would ever deny that.

And if any bad apple union leaders are found to be spending union money on "whores and holidays", they deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law.  Absolute scumbags who deserve everything they get.



Most union leaders, however, are hard-working decent people.


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Reply #64 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:43pm
 
matty wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:23pm:
The Greens won't have the bop, so it doesn't matter what they want/think, they will be rendered completely irrelevant. With any luck it will be Xenophon and/or Madigan (if the Coalition doesn't in our own right).




Depends if Australia required moderation from Abbott's extreme agenda.
Greens in the Senate and in the lower house seats like Batman and Melbourne.
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Reply #65 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:44pm
 
RightSadFred wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 8:30am:
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Well said Kat, yes we know the coalition can't be trusted on industrial relations.      Sad



Neither can the Greens or Labor be trusted to help business.

The Fair Work Australia Act is a joke.
In our entity in Australia we were told we have to hand out a sheet listing all their rights to new employees and we would be fined A$30,000 per breach per employee if we failed to do so.

In our corp office this country is looked on at times as a bunch of socialists.


Andrei.Hicks

The reality is that work place reforms are required unless you really don't want a manufacturing industry which the greens oppose anyway so who gives a toss what the grrens think on this subject, they have already played there card and might be punished at the polls for it.



Define 'workplace reforms'....

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Reply #66 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:58pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 9:36am:
It's unlikely. Neither of the two I am thinking of have boyfriends...

But anyway, I am fine for maternity leave. We have a corp policy where we'll pay 12 weeks of that salary.

Like I said I am all for good workers being rewarded.


You back to being employed in Australia??

If not, FWA doesn't apply to any young ladies working in your section.

BTW....A young lady doesn't have to have a boyfriend to get pregnant, any willing potent male will suffice.

Didn't they teach you anything at that very expensive school????

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Reply #67 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:13pm
 
____ wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:43pm:
matty wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:23pm:
The Greens won't have the bop, so it doesn't matter what they want/think, they will be rendered completely irrelevant. With any luck it will be Xenophon and/or Madigan (if the Coalition doesn't in our own right).




Depends if Australia required moderation from Abbott's extreme agenda.
Greens in the Senate and in the lower house seats like Batman and Melbourne.

Do you think the GREENS will win Batman?
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Reply #68 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:13pm
 
andrei....

During the pilot's strike, did your old man front up to management all by himself, or did his union represent him??

Yes folks, andrei's old man was a striker....

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Reply #69 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 1:08pm:
[quote author=Andrei.Hicks link=1370639727/22#22 date=1370649359]It created a bit of a storm with us when the local MD brought it to our attention.

We already are suspicious of Australia with its superannuation, long annual leave, long service leave, payroll tax etc.

This created more suspicion on the Government not being pro business.

It's a terrible document.

Poor employer????

We are one of the 10 biggest companies in the world!!!


while we have the best economy in the world and the USA doesn't even rate in the top 10.

just perhaps there is something right in what we are doing.[/
quote]

OK!! Who is the alien entity that has taken over longy's computer???

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Reply #70 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:17pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
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Well there are plenty of people that do.     Smiley


14% are members of unions and half of them do so under compulsion.


Got something to support that claim??

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Reply #71 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:42pm
 
What? When did this happen?

Abbott has a real bona fide policy?
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Reply #72 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 4:21pm
 
Lobo wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:13pm:
andrei....

During the pilot's strike, did your old man front up to management all by himself, or did his union represent him??

Yes folks, andrei's old man was a striker....

Wink Wink


He was there at the table with 10 of his senior colleagues fronting up.

He said Hawke's man refused to even listen to their case and actually started off when they entered the room by accusing them of thinking they were better than everyone else and that they already earn 5 times the average worker.

There's a conciliatory tone.

Hawke - friend of the worker eh?
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Reply #73 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 4:22pm
 
Lobo wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 9:36am:
It's unlikely. Neither of the two I am thinking of have boyfriends...

But anyway, I am fine for maternity leave. We have a corp policy where we'll pay 12 weeks of that salary.

Like I said I am all for good workers being rewarded.


You back to being employed in Australia??

If not, FWA doesn't apply to any young ladies working in your section.

BTW....A young lady doesn't have to have a boyfriend to get pregnant, any willing potent male will suffice.

Didn't they teach you anything at that very expensive school????

Wink


The head of their accounting team in Australia reports into me.

I have an AU team. That's why I am here this week.
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Re: Greens To Block Abbott's IR
Reply #74 - Jun 8th, 2013 at 4:36pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 3:13pm:
____ wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:43pm:
matty wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:23pm:
The Greens won't have the bop, so it doesn't matter what they want/think, they will be rendered completely irrelevant. With any luck it will be Xenophon and/or Madigan (if the Coalition doesn't in our own right).




Depends if Australia required moderation from Abbott's extreme agenda.
Greens in the Senate and in the lower house seats like Batman and Melbourne.

Do you think the GREENS will win Batman?



Greens require an 8% swing on primary and we are in the mix.


Greens sets sights on Batman

It's meant to be the safest Labor seat in the nation.


But as the party bickers over preselection for the Melbourne electorate, the Greens have declared "Batman's next" and pronounced themselves a genuine chance to snatch a surprise outright victory.

In her fourth time running as the Greens' candidate for Batman, Alex Bhathal said she has been flooded with community donations.

"I've had aged pensioners donating, people in public housing giving me five dollars, it's just extraordinary people's belief in the Greens and what we stand for," Ms Bhathal said.

Former Australian Greens leader Bob Brown is so confident about the party's prospects he doesn't believe the Greens will have to negotiate a preference deal with either of the two major parties.

Instead he said the battle for Batman will be a two-horse race between the Greens and a Labor party he said no longer represented the progressive views of the electorate.

In the last federal election Ms Bhathal, a Preston social worker, achieved a swing of 6.3 per cent, pinching most of those votes off retiring former Labor frontbencher Martin Ferguson. She’ll need an even bigger swing, of about 8 per cent, if she is to turf out Labor in September.

But on Ms Bhathal's past form, which has seen the Green's primary vote rise by almost 20 per cent within a decade, Bob Brown challenged the perception Batman was in fact as "safe" as it has been touted.

"It's been seen as the safest because the Liberal vote is so small. The Greens vote is growing rapidly and the bean counters tend to look at the two big parties and don’t see the Greens coming," he said.

"It's happened in Cunningham, we won the first seat in the lower house and it's happened in Melbourne.

"Batman is next."

http://www.parramattasun.com.au/story/1557364/greens-sets-sights-on-batman/?cs=1...
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